jwoj69

I think I paid $450

Chris T Loc: from England across the pond to New England

Thanks, Jack … will check it out !!!

jwoj69

Yes I agree. I still learning more and more ab out the camera and it's abilities. New tricks etc. Before 77D I had T6I which was also very decent camera. What sold me on 77DA was DIgic 8 as well Bluetooth and others. I knew it was time to upgrade. I sold two lenses and T6I and I was able to pay for 77D, not bad deal. Especially that the lenses were extras for me. After 77D I went crazy on lenses, I both like 10 of them, no kidding. Than I added canon speedlite 430 EX III RT.. . To get good lighting effects I added Canon SpeEDLITE 430EX III rt and yongnuo speedlite 600Rt and Rt flash transmitter. I should be good for now. Next year I want to get canon 70-@)0 l is, but that is few months from now.Jack.

jwoj69

Yes I agree. I still learning more and more ab out the camera and it's abilities. New tricks etc. Before 77D I had T6I which was also very decent camera. What sold me on 77DA was DIgic 8 as well Bluetooth and others. I knew it was time to upgrade. I sold two lenses and T6I and I was able to pay for 77D, not bad deal. Especially that the lenses were extras for me. After 77D I went crazy on lenses, I both like 10 of them, no kidding. Than I added canon speedlite 430 EX III RT.. . To get good lighting effects I added Canon SpeEDLITE 430EX III rt and yongnuo speedlite 600Rt and Rt flash transmitter. I should be good for now. Next year I want to get canon 70-@)0 l is, but that is few months from now.Jack.

Chris T Loc: from England across the pond to New England

Jack - a couple of things. First - the T6i/T6s did use the older Digic 6, whilst the newer T7i/77D have the newer Digic 7, but the newest Canon CPU - the Digic 8 - is only in the MILCs right now - the M50 and the new R.

Yes, the T6i/T6s - is a pretty fine camera, and it still commands a pretty respectable price - both used AND refurbished. In fact, when the 77D sold for just $650 for five months, earlier in the year, it was a toss-up between them both. Buy the older slightly bigger DSLR with antiquated technology, or the newer smaller one with the new chip, faster AF and better throughput overall, for virtually the same price!!! ... Decisions, decisions!!!

It looks as though you messed up that 70-200 (or 300?) you were trying to tell me about ... rushed it, I guess, Jack ...

By the way, I looked up your new 45mm f1.8 at the Tamron site, yesterday - unfortunately - it's NOT a Macro. However - I did espy their new 70-210 ... and am very impressed !!! You might want to check that out!!

Ten lenses already, Jack? ... Just now bought for your EOS 77D? ... What extravagance!!!

But, you know - I, myself, bought eleven EOS lenses, right after I purchased my T3i in 2011. But, also, along the way, I added another two Canon bodies - both the 60D and the Rebel T4i (still, a very capable camera!)

Have since parted with three of them - an extra 18-55 IS II (no loss there) a Tamron SP 10-24 (color was off) and a Tokina 80-400 (pretty useless at the far end, anyway!)

Kept are the 15-85 IS USM (a stellar performer) Sigma 10-20 (a superior UWA-Z) Sigma 70-300 APO Macro, Tamron's 70-300 VC USD, 18-270 VC PZD, 60 f2 Macro, and Tokina 16.5-135 - all pretty damned good glass.

Jack … keep up your enthusiasm for your EOS 77D and for your photography, in general … looks like you are REALLY enjoying yourself with your new toy!!!! …

broncomaniac Loc: Lynchburg, VA

Ten lenses. Wow. I've purchased six for my 77D; all Canon. Love the camera and I don't really have a favorite lens, though mostly I use my 18-135 and 24mm prime. Also bought a Canon bag that's big enough to hold all of my gear. Coincidentally I, too, have the 430 EX III. I'm extremely happy with my acquisitions.

I sold a few lenses with my trusty T6i to help offset cost or I'd have ten lenses as well.

Chris T Loc: from England across the pond to New England

You had a T6i as well, did you, Bronco? … And, you also traded it for a 77D? … You know, I could never bring myself to trade any of my gear. Outright sale of lenses which don't come up to snuff, but not cameras.

You can never get back what you paid for them, anyway - so it's a lose-lose situation. Glass is different … sometimes, you can get back even MORE than what you paid … but, not DSLRs …

Like driving a new car off the showroom floor (actually did that once!) but you take a bath when you want to sell it ... same with cameras ...

Good to know you're happy with all your acquisitions - you Maniac you ...

broncomaniac Loc: Lynchburg, VA

True about the bath, though I made out pretty well. I didn't care for the lenses I parted with and don't miss them a bit. Laughing at "Maniac."

Chris T Loc: from England across the pond to New England

Good! … Glad you took that with the "tongue-in-cheek" with which it was given …

It's good to purge lens inventory every once in a while, isn't it? … I mean, if you never use them, anymore - for one reason or another - they just take up space, and add extra weight to your kit bag, you don't need.

I have this Tenba Discovery kit bag - which I used to keep ALL my extra EOS lenses in, along with my 60D - but the weight of those EIGHT lenses, along with the camera, made it IMPOSSIBLE to lift it, even!!!!

broncomaniac Loc: Lynchburg, VA

I bought the Canon 1EG. Love the metal D-rings and metal clasps, and of course the roominess and padding. My on-the-go bag is a Lowepro and it holds my 77D with an 18-135 mounted, two small primes and a speedlight. That bag was gifted to me by an UHH member, whom I purchased my girlfriend's D5600 from. Both great bags.

Your Tenba must be a brute.

Chris T Loc: from England across the pond to New England

It WAS eleven - with the two kit lenses (one came with the T3, the other with the T4i) … bought the 60D body only, but I already had the Tokina 16.5-135, so that is now its STAT lens.

Used to use the Tamron SP 60 f2 Macro most of the time, on the T3, but now I keep that as a spare, and use the 18-270 VC PZD on it - the less often I change on that one, the less I have to deal with crap inside the prism.

Right after I bought the T4i - I got the 15-85 IS USM for it … they've been inseparable ever since ('cept for occasional usages of either 70-300, the 60 f2 Macro, or the 10-20 UWA-Z) …

broncomaniac Loc: Lynchburg, VA

I'm fairly fluent with my 77D at this point, and with my gf's D5600. I like being able to turn the thumb wheel during exposure changes and SEEING what the image will look like when I press the shutter. That's not the case with the Nikon, and I have no idea why. Sure, the exposure changes but until the picture is taken it's always a "best guess" and may need further tweaking and a retake. The same is true of every Nikon (few though they have been) that I've had my hands on.

Any idea why, Chris?

Chris T Loc: from England across the pond to New England

Yes, the Tenba bags are very well made - I have a bunch of them, now …

Recently swapped my Tamron 70-300 VC USD and my 60 f2 Macro over to my Tenba shoulder bag, with my T4i, with 15-85 IS USM attached. (Had to reinforce the bottom with Styrofoam, though.) But now I have all my most used Canon gear in one bag - so I'm happier with that arrangement, than the Tenba Discovery - which is really better as a storage bag, than a utility bag. It has six main lens compartments - all tall enough for 70-300s … and a cradle which folds over the center, in which the camera with lens attached - sits. (My only disappointment in parting with the Tamron 10-24 is I no longer have adequate support.) The two UWA-Zs sat end-to-end in the lower tier - forming a nice ledge for the camera cradle. (I no longer trust it to move about with the bag, until I replace that lens.) The two end pockets used to house my two 18-55 Kit Lenses. My T3 is in a Tenba, too.

Chris T Loc: from England across the pond to New England

Jack … it IS Jack, isn't it? … You have two IDs here - JWO and BroncoManiac … I just took out my D5500 to see if I could see what it is to which you refer, but it escapes me, at the moment. Don't think there's much (if any) difference between the D5600 and the D5500 - except the D5600 being a little bigger, and that it supports SnapBridge - which the D5500 doesn't. But I do know the earlier model is better in low light than the later model - so there must be some difference in the way Nikon put it together. The obvious point you bring up is the reliance on one dial - for both adjustment of aperture and shutter speed (dependent on mode.) From what you wrote, you would seem to indicate a lack, thereof - of the additional dial in the Nikon. But Canon APS-C bodies also rely on one dial (your T6i, my T4i) - however, the 77D aspires to be in the "upper class" along with the 80D, etc. Thus, I presume it has DUAL dials - like all the Upper Tier of both Nikon and Canon DSLRs. I don't actually have one, yet, but it's on my list. Perhaps, by the time I get there, the 90D will've arrived - at long last! Next up in the Nikon line - depending on how you look at it, of course - from the D5600 - would be any of the ProSumer line - technically, now - currently - that would be the D7500, but any of the models before it - would also be in that tier - and have dual dials - this includes (in order of the newest to the oldest) the D7200, the D7100, the D7000 and the D90. All of the Canon Rebel line - only have one dial, I believe. But anything from the 77D on up - all have dual dials. And, yes - this makes it so much easier to compose your shots, as you can adjust one for shutter speed preference, and the other for aperture, w/o ever touching the mode dial …

Better still, of course - is those cameras which employ EVFs (all my Sony SLTs amongst them) as then you can actually SEE the difference adjustments of BOTH dials will make - in your viewfinder or on the LCD!

broncomaniac Loc: Lynchburg, VA

Jack and I are two different entities. I simply joined his thread right after he created it. It's in my watched list.

Thanks for investigating. I appreciate your time.