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Dec 10, 2018 14:40:04   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
Linda From Maine wrote:
Excellent point, thanks.



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Dec 10, 2018 14:41:06   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
rmalarz wrote:
I did the frame thing for a small period of time. Some of my early contributions to UHH were "framed". However, it was pointed out that the area of the frame diminishes the size of the photo. The preference being, I'd rather see a larger version of the photograph than have a portion of that area taken up with "chrome plating".

In real life, my photographs are framed with 2"-3" of matte surrounding the photograph. The print sizes are either 12x18 or 16x20. In person, the matte does not subtract from the size of the print, as it does when presented on line. So, on line, I'd prefer to see more image.
--Bob
I did the frame thing for a small period of time. ... (show quote)



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Dec 10, 2018 14:42:35   #
Soul Dr. Loc: Beautiful Shenandoah Valley
 
Linda, when I post images online, I prefer to use a thin black border around them.
This is a way to differentiate my images from other posters' images. I guess you could say it is a part of my style.

Will

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Dec 10, 2018 14:42:52   #
Linda From Maine Loc: Yakima, Washington
 
pmorin wrote:
In regards to the matting or framework of a print, online or on a wall, I am a minimalist. Smaller or thinner lines around the piece are more pleasing to my eye. Or even no border is sometimes best. The less there is to distract from the artwork the better I like it. I just feel that the frame or borders should not take your attention away from the art.
Many thanks! On UHH, a thin black line can be helpful in separating the image from the mustard yellow pages

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Dec 10, 2018 14:46:06   #
Linda From Maine Loc: Yakima, Washington
 
rmalarz wrote:
I did the frame thing for a small period of time. Some of my early contributions to UHH were "framed". However, it was pointed out that the area of the frame diminishes the size of the photo. The preference being, I'd rather see a larger version of the photograph than have a portion of that area taken up with "chrome plating".

In real life, my photographs are framed with 2"-3" of matte surrounding the photograph. The print sizes are either 12x18 or 16x20. In person, the matte does not subtract from the size of the print, as it does when presented on line. So, on line, I'd prefer to see more image.
--Bob
I did the frame thing for a small period of time. ... (show quote)
The thumbnail on UHH is 600 pixels wide (unless upload was even smaller), which includes any added mat or frame. Excellent point for folks to consider. Thank you, Bob!

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Dec 10, 2018 14:47:32   #
Linda From Maine Loc: Yakima, Washington
 
Soul Dr. wrote:
Linda, when I post images online, I prefer to use a thin black border around them.
This is a way to differentiate my images from other posters' images. I guess you could say it is a part of my style. Will
I think a couple of other folks do that and we've come to recognize as part of their style, as you mention. Many thanks!

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Dec 10, 2018 14:56:45   #
cdayton
 
Linda From Maine wrote:
Are you referring to online? Watermarks/logos/names?

Any of these that are visible in the photo as viewed.

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Dec 10, 2018 14:56:47   #
pmorin Loc: Huntington Beach, Palm Springs
 
Linda From Maine wrote:
Many thanks! On UHH, a thin black line can be helpful in separating the image from the mustard yellow pages


I always download the photos to get the best view and then set it to full screen. No mustard showing.

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Dec 10, 2018 15:01:19   #
Linda From Maine Loc: Yakima, Washington
 
cdayton wrote:
Any of these that are visible in the photo as viewed.
Some larger sizes are intrusive, that's for sure. And with the ease at which smaller ones can be removed, they certainly offer no protection against theft. But I guess this is a discussion for a different thread Thanks again.

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Dec 10, 2018 15:05:20   #
Linda From Maine Loc: Yakima, Washington
 
pmorin wrote:
I always download the photos to get the best view and then set it to full screen. No mustard showing.
I do if I'm going to offer detailed feedback and sometimes I do just to appreciate the talent. Many of us have become spoiled by the availability of downloads. The UHH posting guidelines still say don't store original unless you have a really good reason

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Dec 10, 2018 15:06:11   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
Linda From Maine wrote:
Recently in both For Your Consideration and Landscape Forum, two photographers posted photos with fairly large mats/frames around their images. Much of the feedback involved the like/dislike of those mats.

Obviously, it's up to the photographer how to present his/her image to an online forum. My questions:

- If you are the photographer, is it reasonable to assume that respondents will make observations about the size/color/style of your choices, or should they comment only on the photo?

- If you are the viewer, do you assume that the photographer expects you to comment on the mat/frame as part of your feedback?

My opinion is that the mat and/or frame is part of the whole and appropriate to be included in feedback. Some sites offer frames for you to add as a final step in posting (fredmiranda.com is one). I went through a period where everything I posted to UHH had double-mats, similar to how you might select at a print shop. A lot of other people here were doing same at the time. It was fun attempting to choose a combination of size and colors that would (hopefully) enhance the image.

Your thoughts, experience, advice? Feel free to post photo examples!
Recently in both For Your Consideration and Landsc... (show quote)


Yes to both questions.

However, note that there is a huge difference between a digitally-created virtual mat and a 3D beveled mat board. Images of frames can work, but they don't really equate to 3D frames.

I'm not really sure how I feel about restricting an image to a frame/mat of the photographer's choosing. If you're buying a print, or displaying one in a museum or gallery, the mat color and frame design both matter within their surroundings. A photographer could easily use a mat and frame around a print that would clash with the intended surroundings. Sometimes choosing a mat and frame based upon decor in the environment is best.

Virtual frames and mats may need to be coordinated with the look of the site within which they are displayed. Not every mat or frame color can go with the vile colored background of UHH!

A simple black, gray, or white frame with no mat may seem like a cop-out, but it can work quite well when a grouping of similarly framed prints is displayed on a wall.

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Dec 10, 2018 15:09:07   #
Gene51 Loc: Yonkers, NY, now in LSD (LowerSlowerDelaware)
 
Online images are viewed on a variety of devices - from 32" or larger TVs to cellphones. I would not (and don't) use a mat/frame around my posted images - but I suppose a simple thin line as a border is ok. To each his/her own.

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Dec 10, 2018 15:24:29   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
rmalarz wrote:
I did the frame thing for a small period of time. Some of my early contributions to UHH were "framed". However, it was pointed out that the area of the frame diminishes the size of the photo. The preference being, I'd rather see a larger version of the photograph than have a portion of that area taken up with "chrome plating".

In real life, my photographs are framed with 2"-3" of matte surrounding the photograph. The print sizes are either 12x18 or 16x20. In person, the matte does not subtract from the size of the print, as it does when presented on line. So, on line, I'd prefer to see more image.
--Bob
I did the frame thing for a small period of time. ... (show quote)


Ditto.

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Dec 10, 2018 15:27:08   #
Linda From Maine Loc: Yakima, Washington
 
burkphoto wrote:
...Not every mat or frame color can go with the vile colored background of UHH!
Couldn't have said it better myself. Thanks for your time, Bill!

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Dec 10, 2018 15:28:00   #
Linda From Maine Loc: Yakima, Washington
 
Gene51 wrote:
Online images are viewed on a variety of devices - from 32" or larger TVs to cellphones. I would not (and don't) use a mat/frame around my posted images - but I suppose a simple thin line as a border is ok. To each his/her own.
Thanks very much, Gene. And good to be reminded of the variety of viewing devices. People who post 4000 px wide photos to UHH may not be getting their "money's worth"

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