Not sure if here or "General Chit-Chat"...
Nov 10, 2018 14:28:17 #
Delderby wrote:
Most painters buy their brushes and paints and canvases and frames and easels and often record their subjects first as photos rather than sketches in this modern tech world. Everything changes my friend. 
Ok, so they take a photo. Then after that, they start the process of creating a painting. So right about change. The photo is not art. The result of as you say: paint, canvas etc. produces art. See we do agree. It's just a photo that the artist uses to create from.
Nov 10, 2018 15:15:38 #
traderjohn wrote:
Ok, so they take a photo. Then after that, they start the process of creating a painting. So right about change. The photo is not art. The result of as you say: paint, canvas etc. produces art. See we do agree. It's just a photo that the artist uses to create from.
So, if someone never processes an image after the fact, say, because they don't own any processing software; or, they only use the minimum necessary dark room processes to produce an image / print, then as a photographer, they'll never be producing art, no matter who they are or what the result?
Nov 10, 2018 17:43:46 #
dione961 wrote:
So, if someone never processes an image after the fact, say, because they don't own any processing software; or, they only use the minimum necessary dark room processes to produce an image / print, then as a photographer, they'll never be producing art, no matter who they are or what the result?
I was responding to a prior post that stated some take pictures of their subject and then paint the subject.
I don't care if you use or chose not to use someone else's software or a minimum darkroom set up. The end result is a picture....not art.
Nov 11, 2018 04:06:37 #
traderjohn wrote:
I was responding to a prior post that stated some take pictures of their subject and then paint the subject.
I don't care if you use or chose not to use someone else's software or a minimum darkroom set up. The end result is a picture....not art.
I don't care if you use or chose not to use someone else's software or a minimum darkroom set up. The end result is a picture....not art.
Quick snaps are a way of replacing a painter's sketches and serve the same purpose. It can depend on the artist's style - for example, detailed work, such as marine paintings, or palette knife painting - essentially much less detail but can take just as long to paint, and look great when viewed at the proper distance (which pixel-peepers would probably not appreciate). I cannot agree with you that "The end result is a picture... not art". But the debate is interesting.
Nov 11, 2018 06:04:58 #
Delderby wrote:
Quick snaps are a way of replacing a painter's ske... (show quote)
It's been fun. But it's time to put this puppy to bed. take care
Nov 11, 2018 06:34:52 #
Anhanga Brasil wrote:
Thank you for the explanation. br We have joke in... (show quote)
Anhanga, first I enjoyed your original humor. I find the best humor often carries a subtle hidden meaning.
Linda is correct on the literal origins of "getting off (or on) your soapbox. In modern usage rhe phrase often refers to someone who keeps bringing up a subject over and over.
Nov 11, 2018 07:47:45 #
traderjohn wrote:
It's been fun. But it's time to put this puppy to bed. take care
Nov 11, 2018 07:57:52 #
ekfelton
Loc: Michigan
Well said SDigger.
Art is in the eye of the beholder. Adams did his art in the darkroom, not unlike using Lightroom or any other program. The camera captures data used to express oneself in what ever form you like, be it art or photography
Art is in the eye of the beholder. Adams did his art in the darkroom, not unlike using Lightroom or any other program. The camera captures data used to express oneself in what ever form you like, be it art or photography
Nov 11, 2018 10:14:00 #
Anhanga Brasil
Loc: Cabo Frio - Brazil
GregWCIL wrote:
Anhanga, first I enjoyed your original humor. I find the best humor often carries a subtle hidden meaning.
Linda is correct on the literal origins of "getting off (or on) your soapbox. In modern usage rhe phrase often refers to someone who keeps bringing up a subject over and over.
Linda is correct on the literal origins of "getting off (or on) your soapbox. In modern usage rhe phrase often refers to someone who keeps bringing up a subject over and over.
Got it. Thanks for the update. I like to know about idiomatic expressions and, although I
understand that Urban Dictionary has definitions for most of them, I prefer to read from
those who have a more daily contact and that are more incisive.
Nov 11, 2018 11:51:48 #
traderjohn wrote:
In the exposing of "my emulsions" is it ... (show quote)
Of course you are entitled to your opinion that photography can't be art. But it is a very minority opinion. The Museum of Modern Art in New York began collecting photography in 1930, and established their Department of Photography in 1940. Many of the great art museums around to world exhibit photography as art. It is sold in art galleries and auctioned in art auctions. Most universities which teach photography have it in their fine art department. And there have just been too many great photographers since the invention of photography whose work obviously rose to the level of art that it's hard to deny it can be an art form.
Nov 11, 2018 12:15:07 #
Nov 11, 2018 12:29:21 #
Bubbee wrote:
Totally totally correct and I agree wheheartedly! Thank you, John!
To which post are you referring???
Nov 11, 2018 12:41:58 #
Nov 11, 2018 17:02:06 #
Delderby wrote:
Quick snaps are a way of replacing a painter's ske... (show quote)
It is also never ending. Those who deny art in photography rarely tell you how they define art.
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