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Oct 14, 2011 14:27:17   #
JimH Loc: Western South Jersey, USA
 
I've been using/building/cussin' at PCs since 1978. In that time, a VAST majority of all deadly system problems have been caused by video cards, video drivers and or overheating. I remember the bad old days when you had to set the IRQ of a video card in a jumper block with a tweezer or a jewelers screwdriver. Today's cards may be Plug and Play, but they can still cause conflicts.

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Oct 14, 2011 14:40:08   #
Annabelle
 
JimH wrote:
I've been using/building/cussin' at PCs since 1978. In that time, a VAST majority of all deadly system problems have been caused by video cards, video drivers and or overheating. I remember the bad old days when you had to set the IRQ of a video card in a jumper block with a tweezer or a jewelers screwdriver. Today's cards may be Plug and Play, but they can still cause conflicts.


Yes. Some things only SEEM to change.

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Oct 14, 2011 14:51:52   #
Annabelle
 
PalePictures wrote:
I got a Mac
I spent a lot more
I have a lot less drama and problems
Unix based operating systems are inherently more stable
operating systems are my profession

Russ


I would HAPPILY go Unix (or Linux) if my software and data would work on it -- easily. I just don't have the strength of character any more to spend my days doing computer stuff. When I worked in the field, it was different. Now, I just want stuff to work.

For good or ill, all my software and files are PC, so PC and I are effectively married. No divorce.

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Oct 14, 2011 15:00:36   #
hflare Loc: Florida
 
Annabelle wrote:
hflare wrote:
Annabelle wrote:
It's the graphic card.

Got this off the internet and have sent it to Dell.

Windows Vista problem - Graphics Card issue! Blue Screen! - Tech ...
www.techsupportforum.com › ... › BSOD, App Crashes And Hangs
1 post - 1 author - Last post: Sep 10, 2009
Stop 0X000016 Attempt to reset the device driver and recovery failed. Collecting crash dump.....100% Then the computer restarts. I then logged ...

etc.

No one ever listens to me.



The video card in your system is it one which is in a pci slot..or are you using the video card built into the motherboard?
quote=Annabelle It's the graphic card. br br Got... (show quote)


Okay. This computer is something of a hybrid. It is an all-in-one, so it is technically a desktop system, but has no box. Like the Mac, it's all built into the monitor.

So it is a real card, but I can't upgrade it. For all practical purposes, this desktop is a big laptop. It is built using mostly laptop components.

The video card can be replaced; it is not part of the motherboard, so if they make a new one that is compatible, I'll have another option.

It isn't a bad video card, but it isn't a particularly good one either.
quote=hflare quote=Annabelle It's the graphic ca... (show quote)


I certainly understand.... I have seen those systems in the stores and I wondered how one could upgrade it or work on it.
I see your problem better and I would bet that it has only a place for a motherboard built in video card. I do not recall seeing anywhere on them where there was slots to put in any circuit boards for new items.... drats!!!

Let us hope that it is a software problem only..... smile... that one can repair...

Did you get a windows 7 disc with that system?
or did you have to make a restore disc set from within
Dell's menu?

If you have a windows 7 disc...there is a function within it where as you can have the disc seek out all your windows drivers and system files....if one is distorted or missing it will delete the bad one only and replace it. It will not affect any of your programs or your files.. it only looks for the windows files and replaces the bad ones...

if you have a windows driver which is missing or bad this would be the ideal solution for you.... fix the system and not have to lose any of your files.....

If you have the disc...you would use it as though you were going to re-install windows... but at the last page before it would begin there is an option to install or "repair" the system..you would hit the"R" for repair and it would do as I have described..

my fingers are crossed that you have a windows disc.. smile..

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Oct 14, 2011 15:12:23   #
hflare Loc: Florida
 
Annabelle wrote:
hflare wrote:
Annabelle wrote:
While I was reading the last message, the system went down. I had a pen and paper, but the list of addresses causing the failure was way longer than time permitted ... the first and primary one was 0X00000016 and then there were parentheses and a bunch more that I didn't have time to get. I may not have the right number of zeroes.

It doesn't tell ME anything, but maybe it means something to someone out there. If it does, I will be most grateful for the information which I will pass to Dell who seem to be suffering from terminal cluelessness.

This time, the ONLY things I was running were (are) Outlook and Google Chrome. Nothing else. I wasn't running any other applications, so something is going on in the system and I don't think that it's whatever I am doing. In fact, this seems to happen entirely when I'm just on the Internet answering email or something like that. It doesn't happen or at least not yet when I'm doing the kind of thing that would logically put pressure on the system.

Anyone have a bright idea?
While I was reading the last message, the system w... (show quote)


are you familiar with entering your "bios setup"?

if you are, look around in there for a place you can disable the restart of your system if there is an error or conflict...this will allow you to keep the blue screen up in your view....and then post the error numbers.. I am very curious as to what is going on with your system..

Can you enter into your msconfig window.. where you can disengage your software programs one at a time so you can find out which software is causing an address conflict... if you are having a conflict...

since you had this system and it was working without error/s
then something must have happened to make it not work right..

computer problems are always from hardware or software..

You just have to do many tests...but this problem of your intrigues me..and I would to know what you find out...
quote=Annabelle While I was reading the last mess... (show quote)


It IS the video card at the root of the problem. I got that much from the blue screen. A little further research suggested that reinstalling the drivers might solve the problem ... unless the problem is hardware, not software OR the problem is in the operating system rather than the device software.

I went to the Dell driver site and got the current video drivers both marked urgent. They are not new releases, so they should have already been installed. However, I have nothing to lose. Possibly the drivers had somehow corrupted and I have noticed that the system keeps trying to automatically install this same driver. So perhaps I've gotten it. I will know soon enough.

I USED to know how to get into the BIOS, but in Win7, a lot of small changes have made it different and I'm no longer working with a bunch of software developers who help me.

If this doesn't work, I'm out of ideas.
quote=hflare quote=Annabelle While I was reading... (show quote)


When you boot up....there should be a notice saying:

Setup...... with some f and number or delete....

for example... mine says....setup F9

others say.... setup Delete

that means when you turn the computer on...you tap the key it saids.... like F9
and it will take you into the bios which is a place you can make changes to your system... there is a key for you to put it back as it was called a default key..if you do something in there which unables your system to work right...so you can put it back to where it was before you made any changes....

You need to look for a line which says that you do not want the system to restart if it does not boot up properly... and when you find it..hight light the disable button on it and then when your blue screen comes up..... it will not turn black..and you can see what the errors are and write down the numbers...

When you make that change you usually are told to hit the
F10 key and it will start the boot up again with the new setting in place... then when you get the blue screen you can see the numbers....

after you get the numbers written down..then you can restart your system and go back into your set up and change that disable to enable and it will be as you had it before...

what is the name and model number on this system.. I would like to be able to look up the system and motherboard on the internet....

You hang in there and we will find out what is going on....
okay.....

Go to this site and download this file..it is a program I found which will examine your system free and let you know of some errors which might be in it....

http://www.errorhelpers.com/support/error-53.html?keyword=error%2053

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Oct 14, 2011 15:20:02   #
Phyllis Loc: NE PA
 
Throw it in the garbage and get a Mac. :-D

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Oct 14, 2011 16:03:03   #
Annabelle
 
Phyllis wrote:
Throw it in the garbage and get a Mac. :-D


Are you buying? If you are, I'm accepting. Otherwise, I think I'll pass.

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Oct 14, 2011 21:27:46   #
Annabelle
 
Annabelle wrote:
I just had a computer crises. Blue screen 4 times in one day. Uh oh. Once is bad ... 4 times, omigod!

I ran every test I could think of and all I got were "Your computer is fine. No problems."

If there are no problems, why is it crashing? Blue screen no less, which is crashing big time. Finally, deep in troubleshooting mode, I discover that an "Unknown Device is missing a driver." The device has an ID number, but is listed in the device manager as "Other Devices" and seems to have no other identity. Can't update the driver because it's unknown. So finally, I give in and call Dell support, which is, as far as I am concerned, about as much fun as root canal. Maybe root canal is more fun.

However, this is my lucky day and I actually get to tech support in just minutes ... fewer than 5. A lifetime record for me. That never happens. And I am not disconnected even once. Wow. Like winning the lottery almost.

Anyway, this charming Indian fellow has me run a diagnostic and asks what the message is and I say "there is no message" because it is saying again that everything is hunky dory. Except for all those blue screens of death. Minor detail.

He tells me I need to reinstall Windows. Do I have any data?

Do I have data? I have 8 zillion photographs, audiobooks, documents. I have applications up the wazoo ... photoshop and outlook and quicken and corel and so much more.

I explain that I would just as soon jump off a bridge as replace my operating system. He says, okay, I understand. We seek a compromise. Which turns out to be uninstalling the unknown device which, as it turns out does not exist. The computer just THINKS it exists. But when I reboot, it's back. Like Jack in the Shining.

So this time, I disable it. Hah! Try and defeat that! Then he tells me to turn off automatic update because the whole thing was caused by a bad update FROM MICROSOFT.

So I double check. "You are telling me to NOT install the "critical updates" from Microsoft."

Yes Maam, that is correct. Do not install, do not pass go ...

Microsoft really IS the evil empire. Too bad I'm stuck with it. I really would rather eat broken glass than have to reinstall all this stuff. Just backing up all the email, omigod.

So hopefully, this fix works.

All you PC users: turn off the updates. You have it from the authorities: the updates are gonna kill you. Or try.
I just had a computer crises. Blue screen 4 times ... (show quote)


I believe that I fixed it. I returned the video card and associated video software to its original (and recommended by Dell) drivers and suddenly, all symptoms gone. The fix, once I knew what had to do, took me less than 5 minutes. That's the way it always is ... easy and obvious once you know the answer. It's finding the answer that's hard.

It WAS the updates, though not those from windows that got me. It was my own software that automatically updates drivers. When I changed the video drivers, it destabilized the system.

Moral of the story: leave well enough alone. If the magic is working, don't mess with it. Lesson learned, again. I really do know this. Stupid me.

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Oct 15, 2011 14:25:16   #
hflare Loc: Florida
 
If anyone has felt there was any flame of any type to any user of this forum in the past few days...from the slight misunderstandings between another member of this forum and I... I wish to apologize if it has offended on this forum....

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Oct 15, 2011 14:26:49   #
hflare Loc: Florida
 
Annabelle wrote:
Annabelle wrote:
I just had a computer crises. Blue screen 4 times in one day. Uh oh. Once is bad ... 4 times, omigod!

I ran every test I could think of and all I got were "Your computer is fine. No problems."

If there are no problems, why is it crashing? Blue screen no less, which is crashing big time. Finally, deep in troubleshooting mode, I discover that an "Unknown Device is missing a driver." The device has an ID number, but is listed in the device manager as "Other Devices" and seems to have no other identity. Can't update the driver because it's unknown. So finally, I give in and call Dell support, which is, as far as I am concerned, about as much fun as root canal. Maybe root canal is more fun.

However, this is my lucky day and I actually get to tech support in just minutes ... fewer than 5. A lifetime record for me. That never happens. And I am not disconnected even once. Wow. Like winning the lottery almost.

Anyway, this charming Indian fellow has me run a diagnostic and asks what the message is and I say "there is no message" because it is saying again that everything is hunky dory. Except for all those blue screens of death. Minor detail.

He tells me I need to reinstall Windows. Do I have any data?

Do I have data? I have 8 zillion photographs, audiobooks, documents. I have applications up the wazoo ... photoshop and outlook and quicken and corel and so much more.

I explain that I would just as soon jump off a bridge as replace my operating system. He says, okay, I understand. We seek a compromise. Which turns out to be uninstalling the unknown device which, as it turns out does not exist. The computer just THINKS it exists. But when I reboot, it's back. Like Jack in the Shining.

So this time, I disable it. Hah! Try and defeat that! Then he tells me to turn off automatic update because the whole thing was caused by a bad update FROM MICROSOFT.

So I double check. "You are telling me to NOT install the "critical updates" from Microsoft."

Yes Maam, that is correct. Do not install, do not pass go ...

Microsoft really IS the evil empire. Too bad I'm stuck with it. I really would rather eat broken glass than have to reinstall all this stuff. Just backing up all the email, omigod.

So hopefully, this fix works.

All you PC users: turn off the updates. You have it from the authorities: the updates are gonna kill you. Or try.
I just had a computer crises. Blue screen 4 times ... (show quote)


I believe that I fixed it. I returned the video card and associated video software to its original (and recommended by Dell) drivers and suddenly, all symptoms gone. The fix, once I knew what had to do, took me less than 5 minutes. That's the way it always is ... easy and obvious once you know the answer. It's finding the answer that's hard.

It WAS the updates, though not those from windows that got me. It was my own software that automatically updates drivers. When I changed the video drivers, it destabilized the system.

Moral of the story: leave well enough alone. If the magic is working, don't mess with it. Lesson learned, again. I really do know this. Stupid me.
quote=Annabelle I just had a computer crises. Blu... (show quote)


I wonder if you might describe too me, what exactly happened to your system, and what the fix was. In detail so that I might learn from it...Thank you....

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Oct 15, 2011 15:36:51   #
Annabelle
 
hflare wrote:
Annabelle wrote:
Annabelle wrote:
I just had a computer crises. Blue screen 4 times in one day. Uh oh. Once is bad ... 4 times, omigod!

I ran every test I could think of and all I got were "Your computer is fine. No problems."

If there are no problems, why is it crashing? Blue screen no less, which is crashing big time. Finally, deep in troubleshooting mode, I discover that an "Unknown Device is missing a driver." The device has an ID number, but is listed in the device manager as "Other Devices" and seems to have no other identity. Can't update the driver because it's unknown. So finally, I give in and call Dell support, which is, as far as I am concerned, about as much fun as root canal. Maybe root canal is more fun.

However, this is my lucky day and I actually get to tech support in just minutes ... fewer than 5. A lifetime record for me. That never happens. And I am not disconnected even once. Wow. Like winning the lottery almost.

Anyway, this charming Indian fellow has me run a diagnostic and asks what the message is and I say "there is no message" because it is saying again that everything is hunky dory. Except for all those blue screens of death. Minor detail.

He tells me I need to reinstall Windows. Do I have any data?

Do I have data? I have 8 zillion photographs, audiobooks, documents. I have applications up the wazoo ... photoshop and outlook and quicken and corel and so much more.

I explain that I would just as soon jump off a bridge as replace my operating system. He says, okay, I understand. We seek a compromise. Which turns out to be uninstalling the unknown device which, as it turns out does not exist. The computer just THINKS it exists. But when I reboot, it's back. Like Jack in the Shining.

So this time, I disable it. Hah! Try and defeat that! Then he tells me to turn off automatic update because the whole thing was caused by a bad update FROM MICROSOFT.

So I double check. "You are telling me to NOT install the "critical updates" from Microsoft."

Yes Maam, that is correct. Do not install, do not pass go ...

Microsoft really IS the evil empire. Too bad I'm stuck with it. I really would rather eat broken glass than have to reinstall all this stuff. Just backing up all the email, omigod.

So hopefully, this fix works.

All you PC users: turn off the updates. You have it from the authorities: the updates are gonna kill you. Or try.
I just had a computer crises. Blue screen 4 times ... (show quote)


I believe that I fixed it. I returned the video card and associated video software to its original (and recommended by Dell) drivers and suddenly, all symptoms gone. The fix, once I knew what had to do, took me less than 5 minutes. That's the way it always is ... easy and obvious once you know the answer. It's finding the answer that's hard.

It WAS the updates, though not those from windows that got me. It was my own software that automatically updates drivers. When I changed the video drivers, it destabilized the system.

Moral of the story: leave well enough alone. If the magic is working, don't mess with it. Lesson learned, again. I really do know this. Stupid me.
quote=Annabelle I just had a computer crises. Blu... (show quote)


I wonder if you might describe too me, what exactly happened to your system, and what the fix was. In detail so that I might learn from it...Thank you....
quote=Annabelle quote=Annabelle I just had a com... (show quote)


Ok, here goes:

Windows 7 Home Premium
Inspiron One 2305 Toucnscreen
23" HD Monitor
AMD Athlon II X4610e Process, 2.40 GB (Quad)
RAM: 8.00 GB
64-bit Operating System
Touch Input
Video: ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5470
TV: AVerMedia A3336 MiniCard Hybrid ATS/QAM
Audio: Realtek High Definition Audio
HD: 1 TB IDE SATA
DVD/CD ROM drives: HL-DT DVDRWBD

And there are wireless adapters, other devices, and more inputs including infrared receives and television capability, most of which I don't use.

The trick was getting the information from the blue screen so I knew what area the problem occupied. I finally got the code:

0X0000016 (I may have the number of zeroes wrong).

I punched THAT into Google and learned that this indicated a problem with the video card, which I had suspected already.

I went to the Dell driver download website. I punched in my computer's service tag and a list of drivers for my computer appeared.

I opened the Video section and selected two for download: the primary driver for the card and another for the TV tuner that is built into the computer. I installed them. I also downloaded and installed the IR driver since that had failed too.

I noticed immediately that what Dell was urgently recommending were NOT the newer drivers my update software had installed, but the original driver published more than a year ago.

I rebooted the computer and it has been fine since. The moral of the story really is:

If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

The newest version of the driver is NOT necessarily the best one. I really should have known that, so it was my own fault. I wish I could blame someone else, but it seems to be me who is to blame.

Although this computer is a desktop, it really is at its heart, a laptop. It uses pretty much entirely laptop components in a typical laptop configuration with all the same limitations that attach to a laptop. The All-In-One design is very compact.

You might consider this something of a hybrid. It's a delight when it is running right. Then I remember why I was so happy to get it.

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Oct 15, 2011 23:43:11   #
hflare Loc: Florida
 
Annabelle wrote:
hflare wrote:
Annabelle wrote:
Annabelle wrote:
I just had a computer crises. Blue screen 4 times in one day. Uh oh. Once is bad ... 4 times, omigod!

I ran every test I could think of and all I got were "Your computer is fine. No problems."

If there are no problems, why is it crashing? Blue screen no less, which is crashing big time. Finally, deep in troubleshooting mode, I discover that an "Unknown Device is missing a driver." The device has an ID number, but is listed in the device manager as "Other Devices" and seems to have no other identity. Can't update the driver because it's unknown. So finally, I give in and call Dell support, which is, as far as I am concerned, about as much fun as root canal. Maybe root canal is more fun.

However, this is my lucky day and I actually get to tech support in just minutes ... fewer than 5. A lifetime record for me. That never happens. And I am not disconnected even once. Wow. Like winning the lottery almost.

Anyway, this charming Indian fellow has me run a diagnostic and asks what the message is and I say "there is no message" because it is saying again that everything is hunky dory. Except for all those blue screens of death. Minor detail.

He tells me I need to reinstall Windows. Do I have any data?

Do I have data? I have 8 zillion photographs, audiobooks, documents. I have applications up the wazoo ... photoshop and outlook and quicken and corel and so much more.

I explain that I would just as soon jump off a bridge as replace my operating system. He says, okay, I understand. We seek a compromise. Which turns out to be uninstalling the unknown device which, as it turns out does not exist. The computer just THINKS it exists. But when I reboot, it's back. Like Jack in the Shining.

So this time, I disable it. Hah! Try and defeat that! Then he tells me to turn off automatic update because the whole thing was caused by a bad update FROM MICROSOFT.

So I double check. "You are telling me to NOT install the "critical updates" from Microsoft."

Yes Maam, that is correct. Do not install, do not pass go ...

Microsoft really IS the evil empire. Too bad I'm stuck with it. I really would rather eat broken glass than have to reinstall all this stuff. Just backing up all the email, omigod.

So hopefully, this fix works.

All you PC users: turn off the updates. You have it from the authorities: the updates are gonna kill you. Or try.
I just had a computer crises. Blue screen 4 times ... (show quote)


I believe that I fixed it. I returned the video card and associated video software to its original (and recommended by Dell) drivers and suddenly, all symptoms gone. The fix, once I knew what had to do, took me less than 5 minutes. That's the way it always is ... easy and obvious once you know the answer. It's finding the answer that's hard.

It WAS the updates, though not those from windows that got me. It was my own software that automatically updates drivers. When I changed the video drivers, it destabilized the system.

Moral of the story: leave well enough alone. If the magic is working, don't mess with it. Lesson learned, again. I really do know this. Stupid me.
quote=Annabelle I just had a computer crises. Blu... (show quote)


I wonder if you might describe too me, what exactly happened to your system, and what the fix was. In detail so that I might learn from it...Thank you....
quote=Annabelle quote=Annabelle I just had a com... (show quote)


Ok, here goes:

Windows 7 Home Premium
Inspiron One 2305 Toucnscreen
23" HD Monitor
AMD Athlon II X4610e Process, 2.40 GB (Quad)
RAM: 8.00 GB
64-bit Operating System
Touch Input
Video: ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5470
TV: AVerMedia A3336 MiniCard Hybrid ATS/QAM
Audio: Realtek High Definition Audio
HD: 1 TB IDE SATA
DVD/CD ROM drives: HL-DT DVDRWBD

And there are wireless adapters, other devices, and more inputs including infrared receives and television capability, most of which I don't use.

The trick was getting the information from the blue screen so I knew what area the problem occupied. I finally got the code:

0X0000016 (I may have the number of zeroes wrong).

I punched THAT into Google and learned that this indicated a problem with the video card, which I had suspected already.

I went to the Dell driver download website. I punched in my computer's service tag and a list of drivers for my computer appeared.

I opened the Video section and selected two for download: the primary driver for the card and another for the TV tuner that is built into the computer. I installed them. I also downloaded and installed the IR driver since that had failed too.

I noticed immediately that what Dell was urgently recommending were NOT the newer drivers my update software had installed, but the original driver published more than a year ago.

I rebooted the computer and it has been fine since. The moral of the story really is:

If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

The newest version of the driver is NOT necessarily the best one. I really should have known that, so it was my own fault. I wish I could blame someone else, but it seems to be me who is to blame.

Although this computer is a desktop, it really is at its heart, a laptop. It uses pretty much entirely laptop components in a typical laptop configuration with all the same limitations that attach to a laptop. The All-In-One design is very compact.

You might consider this something of a hybrid. It's a delight when it is running right. Then I remember why I was so happy to get it.
quote=hflare quote=Annabelle quote=Annabelle I ... (show quote)


Goodness sakes... I went online in search of that particular video card..and it is from UK and has over sixteen different types of drivers for the ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5470.

They list them from one to sixteen versions under that particular name of video card...Goodness no wonder you had difficulties in trying to get a new and "correct" driver for it...

ATI stated that they do not provide any drivers for the card..one has to go to the manufactor..of your system. in your case being Dell..and dell had the same sixteen choices for one to make..


But other than that craziness.. your description of the computer indicates it is one heck of a machine...
But one thing funny about the ATI sight..they list that monitor as a laptop one.. guess it is closer to being one than a PC...

I have installed windows 7 on many of a machine which did not have any previous operating system..and win 7 has always put in excellent drivers for everything in the system... I think if it was me..and I would only install a new driver from windows 7 installation disc..and not add new ones from the web alone..
but that is me..as I hate to be frustrated over systems that give me problems.. smile..


Thank you so much for taking the time to write all of that down for me.. I was so curious as to what had happened to your system... I just really wanted to know..and I certainly appreciate your time and kindness for doing it for me..

I would imagine you have had enough of this issue already...

PAX
Bro. Monte..

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Oct 16, 2011 00:29:02   #
Annabelle
 
hflare wrote:
Annabelle wrote:


Ok, here goes:

Windows 7 Home Premium
Inspiron One 2305 Toucnscreen
23" HD Monitor
AMD Athlon II X4610e Process, 2.40 GB (Quad)
RAM: 8.00 GB
64-bit Operating System
Touch Input
Video: ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5470
TV: AVerMedia A3336 MiniCard Hybrid ATS/QAM
Audio: Realtek High Definition Audio
HD: 1 TB IDE SATA
DVD/CD ROM drives: HL-DT DVDRWBD

And there are wireless adapters, other devices, and more inputs including infrared receives and television capability, most of which I don't use.

The trick was getting the information from the blue screen so I knew what area the problem occupied. I finally got the code:

0X0000016 (I may have the number of zeroes wrong).

I punched THAT into Google and learned that this indicated a problem with the video card, which I had suspected already.

I went to the Dell driver download website. I punched in my computer's service tag and a list of drivers for my computer appeared.

I opened the Video section and selected two for download: the primary driver for the card and another for the TV tuner that is built into the computer. I installed them. I also downloaded and installed the IR driver since that had failed too.

I noticed immediately that what Dell was urgently recommending were NOT the newer drivers my update software had installed, but the original driver published more than a year ago.

I rebooted the computer and it has been fine since. The moral of the story really is:

If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

The newest version of the driver is NOT necessarily the best one. I really should have known that, so it was my own fault. I wish I could blame someone else, but it seems to be me who is to blame.

Although this computer is a desktop, it really is at its heart, a laptop. It uses pretty much entirely laptop components in a typical laptop configuration with all the same limitations that attach to a laptop. The All-In-One design is very compact.

You might consider this something of a hybrid. It's a delight when it is running right. Then I remember why I was so happy to get it.
br br Ok, here goes: br br Windows 7 Home Premi... (show quote)


Goodness sakes... I went online in search of that particular video card..and it is from UK and has over sixteen different types of drivers for the ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5470.

They list them from one to sixteen versions under that particular name of video card...Goodness no wonder you had difficulties in trying to get a new and "correct" driver for it...

ATI stated that they do not provide any drivers for the card..one has to go to the manufactor..of your system. in your case being Dell..and dell had the same sixteen choices for one to make..


But other than that craziness.. your description of the computer indicates it is one heck of a machine...
But one thing funny about the ATI sight..they list that monitor as a laptop one.. guess it is closer to being one than a PC...

I have installed windows 7 on many of a machine which did not have any previous operating system..and win 7 has always put in excellent drivers for everything in the system... I think if it was me..and I would only install a new driver from windows 7 installation disc..and not add new ones from the web alone..
but that is me..as I hate to be frustrated over systems that give me problems.. smile..


Thank you so much for taking the time to write all of that down for me.. I was so curious as to what had happened to your system... I just really wanted to know..and I certainly appreciate your time and kindness for doing it for me..

I would imagine you have had enough of this issue already...

PAX
Bro. Monte..
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I DID go the the manufacturer of my computer: Dell. The drive on the website is the right driver. I should never have 'updated' drivers. Several drivers that got installed were clearly either the wrong ones or not versions that work with this system.

Yes, it IS listed as a laptop, but it isn't. As I said: it's a hybrid. It's a beautiful machine to use and wonderful for editing photographs ... that 23" high def monitor is gorgeous.

It is humbling to realize that I did it all by myself reminding me that no matter how much you think you know, it cannot save you from mistakes, accidents and folly.

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Oct 16, 2011 02:04:15   #
vallabh1
 
Buy a MAC!!!!!!!!!

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Oct 16, 2011 05:18:23   #
dongrant Loc: Earth, I think!
 
hflare wrote:
If anyone has felt there was any flame of any type to any user of this forum in the past few days...from the slight misunderstandings between another member of this forum and I... I wish to apologize if it has offended on this forum....


For those that may not have notice I was that other member. Hflare and I had a misunderstanding and difference of opinion. As the difference developed, we took the discussion off of the thread and settled it. I believe that we have resolved our issue and I too would like to apologize for my part in the indecent.

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