SharpShooter Loc: NorCal

Do you have reliable info on that??
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SharpShooter Loc: NorCal

Nobody has described it as a beginners camera. It’s been described as ENTRY LEVEL DSLR, which it is.
Minimal to no weather sealing for PNW rain conditions and only 1/4000th for extreme DoF shots in bright light!.
All Canon cameras work very well for their intended shooting purposes but not as well when you go beyond those limits.
A nature camera it is not!!!
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pbradin Loc: Florida

I kind of agree with the idea of a used 5D III that Laura suggested. It is "sealed" like the 7D II (which I own), but for what you have been shooting most of the time (landscapes), the 5D III would be a better choice. With a 7D II, which is a crop sensor camera, your wide angle lenses will be cropped and become "less wide". If you are going to do lots of nature/birds/critters photography and less of your wide angle scenics, then a 7D II would be my choice. Most of this decision should be based on what you will be shooting in the future. The reason that I am ignoring your mention of the 6D or 6D II, is because of the weather sealing issue that you addressed. For most of us weather sealing is not an issue because, since we are not paid to shoot, we choose to go out in good weather. I bought the 7D II for two reasons. It would autofocus at f8 (so i could put a Canon 2x TC on a 300 f4 lens and still have autofocus, albeit slow AF), and because I was shooting rodeos and they are dirty, dusty and go on rain or shine. The crop sensor allowed me to use my 70-200 f2.8 with a 1.4x TC which gave me the perfect lens length (157-448mm effective length) for most rodeo arenas. I am very fond of my 7D II and am very happy with it after 4 years of abusing it (and it has never let me down). The best way to decide (at least for me) has been to sit down and write out what features are most important to me in numerical order. I do that every time I start lusting for some new equipment. That usually makes the decision pretty obvious for me. In either case I would look at "refurbished" equipment on Canon's website. Good luck.

gsmith051 Loc: Fairfield Glade, TN

I don’t know where you get your info but the image quality of photos is excellent for the Canon 6D. I’ve shot thousand of landscape photos and very pleased with the results. Use a 60D for the crop sensor with good results as well. May replace it next year with the 80D but definitely keeping the 6D. Good luck, you might want to rent a 6D and find out for your self.
/George

Merlin1300 Loc: New England, But Now & Forever SoTX

I have the 7D Mk-1. I got the 80D as an upgrade and just love it.
Unless you HAVE to have a full frame camera, the 80D is an excellent choice.

anotherview Loc: California

The Canon 6D II serves as my full frame camera. I also own the 6D but prefer the 6D II. I mount the Sigma 24-105mm lens on it for nearly all of my landscape photography. I neither desire nor need the Canon 5D in whatever iteration.

For the record, I walk around with the Canon T7i with the Canon 17-85mm lens mounted to it, for great results.

DanielB Loc: San Diego, Ca

A quick look on Craigslist there has to be at least 15 5DIII for under your budget. Many with low shutter counts. There are a ton of people out there that want the latest and greatest selling. I see allot of studios with more than they can use selling off equipment also. I have a 5D II & III in my bag and both have been workhorses for me. You may want to save a little more and get the new R with one of their amazing adapters for your lenses. I'm getting one for an every day walk around as soon as I can.

SharpShooter Loc: NorCal

Except for around the buttons the R has ZERO weather sealing for the PNW rain!
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SteveR Loc: Michigan

Both of the best two wildlife photographers that I know use Canon crop sensor cameras. One goes to Africa quite often and has just moved from a Sigma 50-500 to a Sigma 150-600. The other shoots wildlife at Antelope Island and Bear River Migratory Bird Refuge in Utah primarily using the Canon 100-400L version 2. She just shot two fantastic photos of a weasel. When possible, she and her husband travel Utah and Wyoming as much as possible pursuing their mutual photographic hobby as they do. As my friends have, my suggestion would be to stick with the crop cameras and go with great lenses, like the 100-400mm.

DanielB Loc: San Diego, Ca

Hmmm - that's not good. Why would Canon use their robust body structure and not weather seal the buttons??? >>> Followed up on this and found this article, the first one I pulled up, that says the R "is" dust and weather resistant. https://www.popsci.com/canon-eos-r-full-frame-mirrorless-camera

dsmeltz Loc: Philadelphia

For your use, a FF is probably going to work best for you. A 5D III refurb would be nice if you can find it. If you decide to go APS-C the 80D.

EricBader

I retired my 6D after purchasing an almost new 5DSR. Very much enjoyed the 6D - didn't use the wifi much but the built in gps was nice. If it needs to be new - I would pick the 6D. You'll want to use manual focus for landscape so the issues you mentioned about the 6D should not matter....

DJphoto Loc: SF Bay Area

As mentioned below, I would seriously consider the 80D with your budget. You don't mention what lenses you have, but you would have about $500 left over to invest in a lens upgrade with the 80D. I've had mine almost two years and am very happy with it and the EF-S 18-135 lens. Another advantage of a crop sensor camera is the extra reach you get with an EF lens. I make it to the sports car races a couple of times a year and we're all over the track, so my EF 70-300 gives me good reach without the bulk and weight (and cost) of the equivalent reach lens for a full frame camera. The 80D is also weather sealed.