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Sep 26, 2018 07:38:31   #
Fotomacher Loc: Toronto
 
vermis wrote:
I am "just" thinking about upgrading from D750 to either Z7 or D850 but a little confused about D850's compatibility with the previous Nikon lenses. What they list as "compatible" is not really all of their lenses. Has anyone
gone from D750 to D850 and used their same lenses? I have not settled yet on whether to do the move or not and if I do, which one to go to D850 or Z7. I am sure as the Z series come out in a couple of days, we will hear much more about the camera itself. Have you by any chance tried using Tamaron lenses or third party Fx lenses on the D850? Thank you
I am "just" thinking about upgrading fro... (show quote)


Firstly, my question to you is about the upgrade. What is it about the D750 that is holding you back from creating superior images? What images will you be able to make with a D850 or Z7 that you can not make with a D750? If the gear is holding you back, then you upgrade. If the problem is something else, a different body won’t fix it.

That said, the D850 is compatible with about 390 Nikkor F mount lenses. Since it has an in-body focus motor, all AF lenses will work just fine and since it has an aperture feeler, all AI-s manual focus lenses will operate in manual and aperture priority modes. You may not get the best IQ of of the older lenses since they were not designed for the very high resolution of a 46mp sensor. With the FTZ adapter, the Z7 will mount all of the same lenses, but you’ll lose the metering of non-CPU lenses and autofocus capability of non-AFS lenses.

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Sep 26, 2018 08:16:07   #
billnikon Loc: Pennsylvania/Ohio/Florida/Maui/Oregon/Vermont
 
BebuLamar wrote:
The decision should be easy. If you like the EVF then it's the Z7 and if you don't it's the D850.


It really is not that easy. If you compare features their are advantages both ways. I have had EVF on two prior owned Sony DSLR's. EVF is not a deal breaker it is touted to be.

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Sep 26, 2018 08:46:08   #
DJCard Loc: Northern Kentucky
 
My Nikon F mount lenses as well as Sigma Art 35mm f1.4, 50mm f1.4, and 24-105 f4 lenses function flawlessly on my D850.

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Sep 26, 2018 09:08:02   #
tbeusch Loc: Fort Lauderdale
 
I just made that change. As Screaming Scott said, the 850 is a more demanding camera needing good glass.

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Sep 26, 2018 09:27:58   #
camerapapi Loc: Miami, Fl.
 
Scott, with all due respect I have to disagree with you. Old lenses perform to perfection with cameras that sport a high pixel count ASSUMING we do our part. I have lenses made in the 60's, 70's and 80's and they do exceedingly well with my cameras. I have a 105mm f2.5 from 1967 that is a single coated lens and it performs like a champion in spite of its age and the new digital cameras. I use it with a 24 Mp camera with no issues and I bet it does as well with the D850.
I hear a lot of talk about old lenses and the new cameras but everything I have seen seems to indicate that they do very well.

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Sep 26, 2018 10:19:06   #
Screamin Scott Loc: Marshfield Wi, Baltimore Md, now Dallas Ga
 
camerapapi wrote:
Scott, with all due respect I have to disagree with you. Old lenses perform to perfection with cameras that sport a high pixel count ASSUMING we do our part. I have lenses made in the 60's, 70's and 80's and they do exceedingly well with my cameras. I have a 105mm f2.5 from 1967 that is a single coated lens and it performs like a champion in spite of its age and the new digital cameras. I use it with a 24 Mp camera with no issues and I bet it does as well with the D850.
I hear a lot of talk about old lenses and the new cameras but everything I have seen seems to indicate that they do very well.
Scott, with all due respect I have to disagree wit... (show quote)

I use a multitude of older MF and original AF lenses on a D7100 as well as a D610 so I’m in the same boat. That said, as you said, we have to make sure our technique is proper in order to achieve the best results.

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Sep 26, 2018 10:49:36   #
Dossile
 
The extra pixel count and dynamic range will excentuate any shortcoming in a lens. As is often the case with much in life, you can use all F mount lenses with a D850, but should you? There is a list of lenses with Ken Rockwell that optimize D850 qualities. I have sold my older 80-200 and purchased a 70-200 2.8 E with very significant improvements. I now have recommended lenses that I use with excellent results.

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Sep 26, 2018 10:53:04   #
BebuLamar
 
billnikon wrote:
It really is not that easy. If you compare features their are advantages both ways. I have had EVF on two prior owned Sony DSLR's. EVF is not a deal breaker it is touted to be.


It is for me. I wouldn't buy any Z cameras because they have EVF. Otherwise although different the features set of the D850 and Z7 are about the same.

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Sep 26, 2018 10:59:24   #
Screamin Scott Loc: Marshfield Wi, Baltimore Md, now Dallas Ga
 
I wouldn't buy one due to available lens shortcomings & exorbitant price...
BebuLamar wrote:
It is for me. I wouldn't buy any Z cameras because they have EVF. Otherwise although different the features set of the D850 and Z7 are about the same.

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Sep 26, 2018 11:09:51   #
BebuLamar
 
Screamin Scott wrote:
I wouldn't buy one due to available lens shortcomings & exorbitant price...


Actually for me not price nor features set or lenses that keep me from buying the Z. The only thing is because they are mirrorless.

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Sep 26, 2018 12:18:32   #
vermis Loc: Atlanta, GA
 
100% true in ok to good light.

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Sep 26, 2018 12:47:35   #
karno Loc: Chico ,California
 
rgrenaderphoto wrote:
I have not run into a Nikon mount lens that will not work. Even the Samyang/Rokinon manual focus is not a problem.

And yes, the D850 is a beast, but it is a beautifully performing beast.


Indeedy, I second that!!

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Sep 26, 2018 15:07:20   #
cjc2 Loc: Hellertown PA
 
Anything that works on the D750 will (should) also work on the D850. The Z7 is a completely different animal so check the Nikon site for compatibility with the FTZ adaptor. Best of luck.

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Sep 26, 2018 19:31:19   #
billnikon Loc: Pennsylvania/Ohio/Florida/Maui/Oregon/Vermont
 
cjc2 wrote:
Anything that works on the D750 will (should) also work on the D850. The Z7 is a completely different animal so check the Nikon site for compatibility with the FTZ adaptor. Best of luck.


I read somewhere where D lenses may not work with the Z6,A7 and the adapter for autofocus but would work for exposure. But I will have to check that out to be sure. I don't know why they would not.
The following quote is from an article I read.
"Called the FTZ Mount Adapter, this will be compatible with approximately 360 Nikon lenses and support auto-exposure, but if you want auto-exposure and autofocus, this dips down to 93 lenses, though Nikon points out that this is pretty much the entire range of current Nikon lenses."
Here is what Nikon sent me but they do not state is the AF D lenses will autofocus on the d6 and d7. They list 105 lenses that will work on the Z6 and Z7 but do not say if all the D AF lenses will autofocus on the two new camera's.
https://www.nikonusa.com/en/nikon-products/camera-lenses/mirrorless-lenses/index.page#!/tag:lR8:F%20Mount%20Digital%20Cameras%20(via%20Adapter)

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Sep 26, 2018 19:44:27   #
cjc2 Loc: Hellertown PA
 
billnikon wrote:
I read somewhere where D lenses may not work with the Z6,A7 and the adapter for autofocus but would work for exposure. But I will have to check that out to be sure. I don't know why they would not.
The following quote is from an article I read.
"Called the FTZ Mount Adapter, this will be compatible with approximately 360 Nikon lenses and support auto-exposure, but if you want auto-exposure and autofocus, this dips down to 93 lenses, though Nikon points out that this is pretty much the entire range of current Nikon lenses."
I read somewhere where D lenses may not work with ... (show quote)


AFAIK 'D' series lenses, which have NO self-contained focus motor, will NOT auto focus on the Z6 or Z7 through the FTZ adapter. Nikon does NOT consider 'D' lenses to be current. I have a few 'D' lenses which I plan to keep as long as they are useful as I consider them some of Nikon's very best. My 105/2.8D Micro and my 180/2.8D come immediately to my mind, the latter of which is still made and sold today. Best of luck.

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