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Sep 25, 2018 12:43:43   #
vermis Loc: Atlanta, GA
 
I am "just" thinking about upgrading from D750 to either Z7 or D850 but a little confused about D850's compatibility with the previous Nikon lenses. What they list as "compatible" is not really all of their lenses. Has anyone
gone from D750 to D850 and used their same lenses? I have not settled yet on whether to do the move or not and if I do, which one to go to D850 or Z7. I am sure as the Z series come out in a couple of days, we will hear much more about the camera itself. Have you by any chance tried using Tamaron lenses or third party Fx lenses on the D850? Thank you

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Sep 25, 2018 12:57:01   #
Screamin Scott Loc: Marshfield Wi, Baltimore Md, now Dallas Ga
 
As long as they are "F" mount lenses, there should really be no mounting issues. The D850 may be a little more demanding in that some older lenses may not perform as well in terms of IQ, but even older manual focus lenses will meter (in M & A modes only though)and capture images. Older AF lenses will still AF as the camera has a focus motor in the body. Now I'm to understand that you will need lenses that have a focus motor in the lens in order to retain AF and the older manual focus lenses will not meter. That said, I personally would opt for the D850 over either Z camera as I have many older lenses
vermis wrote:
I am "just" thinking about upgrading from D750 to either Z7 or D850 but a little confused about D850's compatibility with the previous Nikon lenses. What they list as "compatible" is not really all of their lenses. Has anyone
gone from D750 to D850 and used their same lenses? I have not settled yet on whether to do the move or not and if I do, which one to go to D850 or Z7. I am sure as the Z series come out in a couple of days, we will hear much more about the camera itself. Have you by any chance tried using Tamaron lenses or third party Fx lenses on the D850? Thank you
I am "just" thinking about upgrading fro... (show quote)

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Sep 25, 2018 13:08:02   #
vermis Loc: Atlanta, GA
 
Thank you Scott.. that is very helpful. I am not that much into the mirrorless cameras, I am old fashioned I guess.. The problem of course, is the weight of the beast.. It is double that of the D750!

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Sep 25, 2018 13:19:40   #
chase4 Loc: Punta Corona, California
 
Take a look at this chart from the Nikon website. chase

https://www.nikonusa.com/Images/Learn-Explore/Photography-Techniques/2011/Which-Nikkor-is-Right-for-You/Media/NIKKOR-lens-compatibility-chart.pdf

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Sep 25, 2018 13:25:44   #
therwol Loc: USA
 
vermis wrote:
I am "just" thinking about upgrading from D750 to either Z7 or D850 but a little confused about D850's compatibility with the previous Nikon lenses. What they list as "compatible" is not really all of their lenses. Has anyone
gone from D750 to D850 and used their same lenses? I have not settled yet on whether to do the move or not and if I do, which one to go to D850 or Z7. I am sure as the Z series come out in a couple of days, we will hear much more about the camera itself. Have you by any chance tried using Tamaron lenses or third party Fx lenses on the D850? Thank you
I am "just" thinking about upgrading fro... (show quote)


Nikon lens compatibility with the D750 and D850 is identical. Both will work with the lenses that require a motor in the body (AF-D). Both will work with lenses that have the motor in the lens. VR will work on those lenses that have it. The Z7 will NOT autofocus with lenses that require the motor in the body, even with the lens adapter.

Note that some Nikon firmware updates have disabled autofocus on some third party lenses. I don't own any of these lenses, but apparently some recent ones can also be updated to overcome this. Sigma comes to mind. This has been discussed in a few threads on this forum.

Ken Rockwell's lens compatibility chart is the best thing he's ever done. Note that it only applies to lenses made by Nikon.

https://www.kenrockwell.com/nikon/compatibility-lens.htm

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Sep 25, 2018 13:30:56   #
Bill_de Loc: US
 
vermis wrote:
I am "just" thinking about upgrading from D750 to either Z7 or D850 but a little confused about D850's compatibility with the previous Nikon lenses. What they list as "compatible" is not really all of their lenses. Has anyone
gone from D750 to D850 and used their same lenses? I have not settled yet on whether to do the move or not and if I do, which one to go to D850 or Z7. I am sure as the Z series come out in a couple of days, we will hear much more about the camera itself. Have you by any chance tried using Tamaron lenses or third party Fx lenses on the D850? Thank you
I am "just" thinking about upgrading fro... (show quote)


I think you might be confusing recommended and compatible.

This is from NikonUSA tech specs for D850:

Compatible lenses---

AF NIKKOR lenses, including type G, E, and D lenses (some restrictions apply to PC lenses), and DX lenses (using DX 24 x 16 image area), AI-P NIKKOR lenses, and non-CPU AI lenses (exposure modes A and M only).

Electronic rangefinder can be used with lenses that have a maximum aperture of f/5.6 or faster (the electronic rangefinder supports 15 focus points with lenses that have a maximum aperture of f/8 or faster, of which 9 points are available for selection).
IX NIKKOR lenses, lenses for the F3AF, and non-AI lenses cannot be used.


There is also a list of recommended lens based on the high resolution of the sensor. In other word they figure for best results with a high resolution sensor you should use a high resolution lens. That would be equally true for the D850 and the Z7.

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Sep 25, 2018 13:50:05   #
rgrenaderphoto Loc: Hollywood, CA
 
I have not run into a Nikon mount lens that will not work. Even the Samyang/Rokinon manual focus is not a problem.

And yes, the D850 is a beast, but it is a beautifully performing beast.

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Sep 25, 2018 13:51:31   #
Thomas902 Loc: Washington DC
 
Important Note: Both Ken Rockwell and the Nikon Links are not valid for the AF-P: Stepper-Motor FX mount AF-P 70-300mm 4.5-5.6E VR Nikkor (FX) optic. I use this on my D3x and it works with complete functionality...

Here is Thom’s Recommended Lenses for FX Users
http://www.dslrbodies.com/lenses/lens-databases-for-nikon/thoms-recommended-lenses-2.html

He goes in depth about which FX optics are no longer capable of utilizing the acuity and resolution of the 8XX series Nikon bodies...
btw, he mentions that he would actually consider using the above Nikkor 70-300mm f/4-5.6E ED VR AF-P on a Nikon D850 were it's performance is actually acceptable...

Here's his review of the aforementioned...
http://www.dslrbodies.com/lenses/nikon-lens-reviews/nikkor-zoom-lens-reviews/nikon-70-300mm-f45-56-af-p.html

Hope this help vermis or is at least food for thought...
I wish you well on your journey...

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Sep 25, 2018 14:32:02   #
vermis Loc: Atlanta, GA
 
Thank you guys. This is so helpful in many ways.. I think if I decide to move toward the upgrade, it will be the 850!

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Sep 26, 2018 05:51:13   #
Hammer Loc: London UK
 
The D850 is not really an upgrade , it is a different camera which is a very good camera .

The increased pixel count means that hand holding is not as easy as with the D750 or other cameras . If you needed 1/800 on your current camera you may need 1/2000 on the D850 and possibly improv your technique. Also diffraction sets in earlier , some say at f5.6 but definitely by f8. Although there is a possible point of view that the increased sensor resolution will provide even more detail despite the extra diffraction . However , landscapes at f13 etc are a definite no . But you can use focus stacking and this is built into the operating system, but you are going to need to use a tripod etc.

The D850 is an incredibly flexible camera, stick it in DX crop mode and you almost have a D500 in your hands, stick a grip on it after spending £1,000 and you can match the speed of the D500. However it may not now fit in your camera bag.

The point about lens is that you need high quality glass to take advantage of the resolving power of the sensor , so not much point in changing unless you have or are committed to spending on the glass.

I changed from a D810 to the D850 . Yes , it is a magnificent tool but did I make a correct decision . I am not so sure now .

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Sep 26, 2018 06:38:05   #
DavidPine Loc: Fredericksburg, TX
 
I am 75 and I hand hold my D850 with a 300mm f/2.8 and a 200-500 f/5.6 and a 70-200 f/2.8 at 1/60th. all the time and my images are tack sharp.
Hammer wrote:
The D850 is not really an upgrade , it is a different camera which is a very good camera .

The increased pixel count means that hand holding is not as easy as with the D750 or other cameras . If you needed 1/800 on your current camera you may need 1/2000 on the D850 and possibly improv your technique. Also diffraction sets in earlier , some say at f5.6 but definitely by f8. Although there is a possible point of view that the increased sensor resolution will provide even more detail despite the extra diffraction . However , landscapes at f13 etc are a definite no . But you can use focus stacking and this is built into the operating system, but you are going to need to use a tripod etc.

The D850 is an incredibly flexible camera, stick it in DX crop mode and you almost have a D500 in your hands, stick a grip on it after spending £1,000 and you can match the speed of the D500. However it may not now fit in your camera bag.

The point about lens is that you need high quality glass to take advantage of the resolving power of the sensor , so not much point in changing unless you have or are committed to spending on the glass.

I changed from a D810 to the D850 . Yes , it is a magnificent tool but did I make a correct decision . I am not so sure now .
The D850 is not really an upgrade , it is a differ... (show quote)

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Sep 26, 2018 07:28:20   #
billnikon Loc: Pennsylvania/Ohio/Florida/Maui/Oregon/Vermont
 
vermis wrote:
I am "just" thinking about upgrading from D750 to either Z7 or D850 but a little confused about D850's compatibility with the previous Nikon lenses. What they list as "compatible" is not really all of their lenses. Has anyone
gone from D750 to D850 and used their same lenses? I have not settled yet on whether to do the move or not and if I do, which one to go to D850 or Z7. I am sure as the Z series come out in a couple of days, we will hear much more about the camera itself. Have you by any chance tried using Tamaron lenses or third party Fx lenses on the D850? Thank you
I am "just" thinking about upgrading fro... (show quote)


I too, am torn between the Z7 and the D850. Let us know which you choose and why. I would be very interested in your reasoning.

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Sep 26, 2018 07:29:18   #
Hammer Loc: London UK
 
DavidPine wrote:
I am 75 and I hand hold my D850 with a 300mm f/2.8 and a 200-500 f/5.6 and a 70-200 f/2.8 at 1/60th. all the time and my images are tack sharp.


I am very impressed , I could not do that , you must be made of very strong stuff.

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Sep 26, 2018 07:37:12   #
billnikon Loc: Pennsylvania/Ohio/Florida/Maui/Oregon/Vermont
 
Hammer wrote:
I am very impressed , I could not do that , you must be made of very strong stuff.


I am 70 and have the same results hand held. It is not difficult and practice makes perfect. It's called the tripod on hand holding. Both elbows into the body for two legs of the tripod, (left hand under the lens as far forward on the lens as possible, right hand firmly holding the camera) and the camera held tightly against your head forming the third leg of the tripod. Easy peasy.

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Sep 26, 2018 07:37:48   #
BebuLamar
 
billnikon wrote:
I too, am torn between the Z7 and the D850. Let us know which you choose and why. I would be very interested in your reasoning.


The decision should be easy. If you like the EVF then it's the Z7 and if you don't it's the D850.

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