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Sep 9, 2018 16:58:53   #
willE Loc: Arkansas
 
Which is your preference? Microsoft or Mac
For Lightroom and photoshop to print?

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Sep 9, 2018 17:20:44   #
JeffDavidson Loc: Originally Detroit Now Los Angeles
 
Your personal preference. Most MAC users prefer MACs for one reason or another and the same holds true for PC users and PC's. If you have a high end PC with enough processing power, then it can go side by side with a MAC and for less $$.

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Sep 9, 2018 17:20:58   #
tdekany Loc: Oregon
 
Those who use Apple products will suggest Macs, those who don’t, will give you all the reasons why you should go with a PC. That will leave you in the middle. Purchase what you think you’d like more. I personally use Apple stuff and would never ever go back to a PC. Good luck.

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Sep 9, 2018 18:16:32   #
BlingRunner Loc: Los Angeles, CA
 
What he said!

JeffDavidson wrote:
Your personal preference. Most MAC users prefer MACs for one reason or another and the same holds true for PC users and PC's. If you have a high end PC with enough processing power, then it can go side by side with a MAC and for less $$.

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Sep 9, 2018 18:29:15   #
PixelStan77 Loc: Vermont/Chicago
 
willE wrote:
Which is your preference? Microsoft or Mac
For Lightroom and photoshop to print?
Welcome to the forum Will. I was a windows guy. I switched about 3 years ago to a Apple MacBook Pro and now have a 27"Inch Apple Desktop. Never regretted my decision.

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Sep 9, 2018 18:46:33   #
brucebil
 
I think there is an important point to consider here. Almost no (nil) users who have gone to Mac ever come back to PC. I converted some years ago from PC to Mac and was actually angry and what I had put up with in my PC life after going to Mac. My kids all have Mac’s at home but have to use PCs at their work. They can’t get back to their Macs quick enough. However - they are considerably dearer and are almost never on sale.

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Sep 9, 2018 18:53:53   #
Strodav Loc: Houston, Tx
 
Have LR with PS on both a MacBook Pro 15" laptop and a home made gaming desktop running Win 10. Some differences in short cut keys and how to assign drives, but at the end of the day, it works fine on both of them. Many of the online / youtube training videos teaches both Apple and PC at the same time. The real question is how much maintenance time will you spend on a Mac vs a PC. If you buy a PC, buy it from someone like Dell and pick up the 24 x 7 home support for 3 years. If you choose Apple, you will have less trouble and I have found that online support has been all I needed. I have an Apple store fairly close, so I have taken my questions into the store and they have been extremely helpful.

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Sep 9, 2018 19:12:24   #
Gene51 Loc: Yonkers, NY, now in LSD (LowerSlowerDelaware)
 
willE wrote:
Which is your preference? Microsoft or Mac
For Lightroom and photoshop to print?


Most users will be well served with either platform. But for out and out power users, you can custom configure a Windows machine that will dance around even a Mac Pro, and for a lot less $$.

But not everyone is a power user.

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Sep 9, 2018 19:14:15   #
AndyH Loc: Massachusetts and New Hampshire
 
brucebil wrote:
I think there is an important point to consider here. Almost no (nil) users who have gone to Mac ever come back to PC. I converted some years ago from PC to Mac and was actually angry and what I had put up with in my PC life after going to Mac. My kids all have Mac’s at home but have to use PCs at their work. They can’t get back to their Macs quick enough. However - they are considerably dearer and are almost never on sale.


I, respectfully, disagree. I know several. Windows machines still outsell Apples, for several reasons. My primary personal reason is that my last three Windows laptops have, in aggregate, cost less than the MacBook I could have bought seven years ago. You can afford more easily to have the latest generation Windows machine.

If you have unlimited funds, Apple is a better choice perhaps, but I live in the real world.

Andy

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Sep 9, 2018 19:19:14   #
LWW Loc: Banana Republic of America
 
Windows is more susceptible to:

- Crashes.
- Viruses.
- Hacks.
- Breakdowns.

Macs are more susceptible to:

- Higher cost.
- Higher reliability.
- Higher resale value.
- Higher usability.
- Faster learning curves.
- Higher final speeds (Computer speed + human speed = final speed.)
- Higher compatibility with add-on accessories.

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Sep 9, 2018 19:25:51   #
Bipod
 
willE wrote:
Which is your preference? Microsoft or Mac
For Lightroom and photoshop to print?

You might want to hold off on buying a Mac or Photo Shop for Mac.

Apple has announced it's intention to drop the Intel processor in Macs
and go to it's own flavor of ARM chip. It has acquired an ARM
foundry. If it goes though with this change, all existing Mac software
will need to be recompiled for the new RISC processor. In other words,
no existing Mac software will run on the new ARM Macs!

So if you intend to buy a Mac or Photoshop for Mac, I would strongly
suggest you wait until Apple either completes this migration or comes
to its senses and abandons this plan. Otherwise, you may end up with
two orphaned products.

Apple has not done a very good job over the years in keeping Mac hardware
backward compatible or even uniform within the prodution of one model.
If you open up any two Macs with the same model number, chances are you'll
find different parts. It's hard to imagine Apple succeeding as a processor maker--
even just to supply it's own manufacturing.

Mac hardware is also more expensive than PC hardware and more
proprietary. PCs still conform to some open standards: any conpany
that wants to can build a PC or PC device. You are not stuck with a
single supplier (not even Intel: AMD makes Intel-compatible processors).

Neither Microsoft or Apple are technology innovators. (Anyone who
disagrees should name one major technical advance invented (rather than
acquired) by either company.) However, PC makers and former makers--
including IBM, HP, Compaq, Digital Equipment, Fujitsu, Toshiba, etc.--
have a long history of innovation. *You* could invent a better PC--but if
you invented a better Mac, you'd be sued by Apple.

One thing to know is that Apple is locked out of the server market because
Max OS/X has too much overhead. OS/X is based on the NeXT OS that it
acquired from NeXT computer, which in turn was based on the Mach
microkernel developed by Carnegie Mellon Univerisity. Every major
server manufacturer looked at Mach when it first came out and rejected it.
Microkernels simply have too many layers and too-much calling and or
message-passing. They make great workstations but bad servers. This is
a fundemental design limitation that cannot be fixed. If Apple ever wants
to sell a server, it will have to run Linux, UNIX...or Windows NT.

Finally, there is the question of business risk. PC manufactures are
not very profitable, but there are many of them. Apple is very profitable,
but there is only one Apple--and it's main product isn't the Mac--it's
the iPhone.

Most analysts I've read beleive that iPhone sales currently are subsidizing
Mac production. Thus, if the iPhone catches a cold, the Mac may well get
pneumonia--even if Mac sales remain strong.

Finally, yesterday the US President told Apple only that it should move its
production to the US to avoid possible tariffs on its products that
are made in China. In 2013, all Macs were made in China, but Apple
promised to shift some production to the USA. It is not clear whether
or not that has happened.

A lot of PCs are made in China, but not all of them. PCs are also made
in Taiwan, Singapore, Malaysia, and elsewhere.

These days, Apple s mostly a consumer electronics company. But a typical
consumer electronics companies (e.g. Philiips or Sony) have multiple brands
and hundreds of products; but Apple has *one* brand and is dependent on
about *six* products for 90% of its revenue.

Microsoft also has one main product and one main brand--but it doesn't make
computers. Windows is a monopoly (if you want to run Windows apps or
device drivers), and as long as Microsoft can collect royalities from OEMs
and upgrades, it will do fine.

Consumer tastes are notoriously fickle. Apple is taking a huge risk. The upside
potential of concentrating on just one product is huge--but so is the downside
potential. If the consumer suddenly develops an aversion to Tide brand laundry
detergent, Proctor & Gamble won't be hurt much because it also owns the Ariel,
Bold, Bonux, Cheer, Daz, Era, Dreft, Gain, and Ola brands of laundry detergent.
P&G has been around since 1837. Apple has been around (under various names)
since 1976, and was unprofitable from 1991 to 1997. It has been rocked more
than once by power struggles in top management.

With its astronomical stock price, any signifcant decline in Apple's earnings--for
whatever reason--would come as a big shock to its investors. Apple future hinges on
whether consumers in rich countries will continue to pay a premium for a smart phone
in a white-colored case.

Let me put it his way: would you want to buy a computer made by Nokia? Or Blackberry?
Or Motorola? All those companies were once riding high in the cell phone market.

Personally, I would prefer not to have the future of my photography linked to such
irrelevant imponderables. Both PCs and Macs have very poor security. Neither Apple nor Microsoft
is known for being transparent or easy to reach, so the less one depends on them, the better.
The only hardware I ever bought from Microsoft was a mouse. :-)

Microsoft is the lesser of two evils, because Windows is its main product, is less risky than
the smart phone business, will provide you with an upgrade path, and you have many choices
for PC hardware. Apple is a company, PCs are an industry.

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Sep 9, 2018 19:32:37   #
tdekany Loc: Oregon
 
AndyH wrote:
I, respectfully, disagree. I know several. Windows machines still outsell Apples, for several reasons. My primary personal reason is that my last three Windows laptops have, in aggregate, cost less than the MacBook I could have bought seven years ago. You can afford more easily to have the latest generation Windows machine.

If you have unlimited funds, Apple is a better choice perhaps, but I live in the real world.

Knowing several people who went from Apple to PC is not disagreeing with the previous poster, but agreeing with him.

Andy
I, respectfully, disagree. I know several. Windows... (show quote)

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Sep 9, 2018 19:34:33   #
tdekany Loc: Oregon
 
Knowing several people who went from Apple to PC is not disagreeing with the previous poster, but agreeing with him.

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Sep 9, 2018 19:39:17   #
AndyH Loc: Massachusetts and New Hampshire
 
tdekany wrote:
Knowing several people who went from Apple to PC is not disagreeing with the previous poster, but agreeing with him.


No. It’s neither agreeing or disagreeing.

It may, however be challenging the perception of inevitable superiority that some Apple fanboys display.

I am not anti-Apple. I’m writing this on my iPhone, which I think is superior to the Android and Microsoft competition.

Andy

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Sep 9, 2018 19:44:50   #
rgrenaderphoto Loc: Hollywood, CA
 
willE wrote:
Which is your preference? Microsoft or Mac
For Lightroom and photoshop to print?


Honestly? Right now, in 2018, it makes no difference which computer platform or OS you use. Computers are just tools for the creative mind.
Just make sure you have a system with 32 Gb RAM and a multiple Terrabyte SSD drive.

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