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Sep 11, 2018 10:24:05   #
dsmeltz Loc: Philadelphia
 
brucebil wrote:
I think there is an important point to consider here. Almost no (nil) users who have gone to Mac ever come back to PC. I converted some years ago from PC to Mac and was actually angry and what I had put up with in my PC life after going to Mac. My kids all have Mac’s at home but have to use PCs at their work. They can’t get back to their Macs quick enough. However - they are considerably dearer and are almost never on sale.


I have tried several times to go to Mac. It is just counter intuitive to me. There are some studies that show Apple appears to be easier to adopt for young and new users, however, users with a long time on another system do not do so well in the conversion. The studies I have seen are based on small numbers, so take it with a grain of salt. The results do seem to be born out by the HUGE number of PC users compared to Apple users. I believe Apple's market share is hovering near 10% right now. An all time high.

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Sep 11, 2018 13:14:26   #
Tomcat5133 Loc: Gladwyne PA
 
Some thoughts. The PC is and was the worlds typewriter. Business software is run on PC's. I think that is how they became so powerful.
I have tried to go back to using a PC including my Macs and have always had problems. Bought a HP budget machine with a credit I had.
Said I could with to Windows 10. Wrong couldn't. The interface reminded me of a puzzle. I had the Panasonic Tough Machine didnt
use it for a while was unable to get it to work again. Their upgrading of OS can take days and not complete. I have a client I am sending
videos and links to video now. They are constantly calling to send it again or it won't work but it does on the partners machine.
These are not things Mac users deal with.

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Sep 11, 2018 13:26:44   #
dsmeltz Loc: Philadelphia
 
Tom Daniels wrote:
Some thoughts. The PC is and was the worlds typewriter. Business software is run on PC's. I think that is how they became so powerful.
I have tried to go back to using a PC including my Macs and have always had problems. Bought a HP budget machine with a credit I had.
Said I could with to Windows 10. Wrong couldn't. The interface reminded me of a puzzle. I had the Panasonic Tough Machine didnt
use it for a while was unable to get it to work again. Their upgrading of OS can take days and not complete. I have a client I am sending
videos and links to video now. They are constantly calling to send it again or it won't work but it does on the partners machine.
These are not things Mac users deal with.
Some thoughts. The PC is and was the worlds typewr... (show quote)


Actually, WANG was the world's typewriter. I still remember a friend who worked for WANG. He was young and innocent. He proudly wore the company t-shirt to the Sunday Bible class he taught.

Once.

Remember that the t-shirt was designed in Japan.


The t-shirt said....


"I love my Wang!"

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Sep 11, 2018 14:20:46   #
Bykewrydr Loc: Alberta
 
I have used PC's since the mid eighties every time I have had a problem now they divert you to a site in India or some place off shore. The first thing they want you to do is sign up for a year's support for around 100.00 dollars. For some reason if you don't sign up it seems coincidental you all of a sudden have viruses.
On the other hand my experiences with Apple are it doesn't appear to matter how long you've had your computer they will give you support and have always solved my problems.

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Sep 11, 2018 14:31:03   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
dsmeltz wrote:
Actually, WANG was the world's typewriter. I still remember a friend who worked for WANG. He was young and innocent. He proudly wore the company t-shirt to the Sunday Bible class he taught.

Once.

Remember that the t-shirt was designed in Japan.


The t-shirt said....


"I love my Wang!"


Wang was also a computer company in the 1980s or thereabouts.

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Sep 11, 2018 16:03:09   #
BebuLamar
 
dsmeltz wrote:
Actually, WANG was the world's typewriter. I still remember a friend who worked for WANG. He was young and innocent. He proudly wore the company t-shirt to the Sunday Bible class he taught.

Once.

Remember that the t-shirt was designed in Japan.


The t-shirt said....


"I love my Wang!"


Irony that the shirt was designed in Japan as Wang is an American company founded by An Wang who is an American of Chinese decent. I remembered seeing them in the office of the loan officer. The Wang is more of a calculator than computer but it was capable of doing financial calculations.

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Sep 12, 2018 07:58:21   #
dsmeltz Loc: Philadelphia
 
burkphoto wrote:
Wang was also a computer company in the 1980s or thereabouts.


Yeah, they did a lot of mainframe work. Then they tried something called "vertical marketing" in the late 80's. This was just after the retirement of founder An Wang. His son, Fred took over. The company went bankrupt in a couple years.

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Sep 12, 2018 08:00:27   #
dsmeltz Loc: Philadelphia
 
BebuLamar wrote:
Irony that the shirt was designed in Japan as Wang is an American company founded by An Wang who is an American of Chinese decent. I remembered seeing them in the office of the loan officer. The Wang is more of a calculator than computer but it was capable of doing financial calculations.


Sorry, I meant Chinese. And I should have said it was approved by individuals for whom English was not their first language.

Of course given the industry at the time, their first language might have been Cobol.

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Sep 12, 2018 08:21:08   #
DirtFarmer Loc: Escaped from the NYC area, back to MA
 
dsmeltz wrote:
...Of course given the industry at the time, their first language might have been Cobol.


When I was in grad school we had to be able to read technical publications in two languages in addition to English (American).
The year after I met that requirement they approved using Fortran as one of the languages.

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Sep 12, 2018 08:26:27   #
dsmeltz Loc: Philadelphia
 
DirtFarmer wrote:
When I was in grad school we had to be able to read technical publications in two languages in addition to English (American).
The year after I met that requirement they approved using Fortran as one of the languages.


I liked FORTRAN. (The precursor to C for the youngsters out there) I HATED COBOL. My first "word processor" was called SCRIBE, if anyone remembers it.

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