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Aug 11, 2018 05:40:03   #
tenny52 Loc: San Francisco
 
Recently I bought a Panasonic FZ80 for my pending trip. So I have been busy learning its functions and I found it can do a lot more in picture taking and movie capturing than my D610 except detail/clarity/dynamic.
The question is whence the DSLR is a bigger unit, why can't the manufacturer pack those functions such as 4K burst mode, post focus mode, panoramic stitching, multi-focus stacking, live cropping etc. which I think can be achieved by software(firmware). Or the reason is my D610 being too primitive.

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Aug 11, 2018 05:43:50   #
Ctrclckws
 
The D600/D610 was designed in 2012 or 2013. When did 4k video start?

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Aug 11, 2018 05:48:10   #
Pablo8 Loc: Nottingham UK.
 
tenny52 wrote:
Recently I bought a Panasonic FZ80 for my pending trip. So I have been busy learning its functions and I found it can do a lot more in picture taking and movie capturing than my D610 except detail/clarity/dynamic.
The question is whence the DSLR is a bigger unit, why can't the manufacturer pack those functions such as 4K burst mode, post focus mode, panoramic stitching, multi-focus stacking, live cropping etc. which I think can be achieved by software(firmware). Or the reason is my D610 being too primitive.
Recently I bought a Panasonic FZ80 for my pending ... (show quote)


Why / when did you buy the D610?

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Aug 11, 2018 06:03:43   #
tenny52 Loc: San Francisco
 
Pablo8 wrote:
Why / when did you buy the D610?

I had 3 Pentax Dslr previously and decide to own a full-frame.
After looking sometimes for an affordable FF, I bought it at a bargain at Ebay in Apr-2015. I paid $1050 new(incl tax) while Amazon price was $1499+tax

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Aug 11, 2018 06:03:57   #
lamiaceae Loc: San Luis Obispo County, CA
 
tenny52 wrote:
Recently I bought a Panasonic FZ80 for my pending trip. So I have been busy learning its functions and I found it can do a lot more in picture taking and movie capturing than my D610 except detail/clarity/dynamic.
The question is whence the DSLR is a bigger unit, why can't the manufacturer pack those functions such as 4K burst mode, post focus mode, panoramic stitching, multi-focus stacking, live cropping etc. which I think can be achieved by software(firmware). Or the reason is my D610 being too primitive.
Recently I bought a Panasonic FZ80 for my pending ... (show quote)


Differing Markets; Bridge and P&S, Various DSLRs are for Consumers (who may want toys and gimmicks but live with out some picture taking or equipment variety functionality), Hobbyist (who may want a good amount of functions beyond image capturing but still want as high quality image they can get for processing), Professional who only want and need features and functions giving the best IQ, ease of use, durability, and usually process on their computers. And there are Art oriented Photographers who pretty much want IMAGE QUALITY. They might like some pros drive them to Medium Format Digital. Say contrast a Nikon D3400 with a D7500 with a D5, and look at their prices! And with Ps, Lr, etc. computer based PP you can work with RAW files not just in-camera JPEGs.

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Aug 11, 2018 06:09:17   #
lamiaceae Loc: San Luis Obispo County, CA
 
tenny52 wrote:
I had 3 Pentax Dslr previously and decide to own a full-frame.
After looking sometimes for an affordable FF, I bought it at a bargain at Ebay in Apr-2015. I paid $1050 new(incl tax) while Amazon price was $1499+tax


You might have waited for / looked at the Pentax K-1 (Full Frame 36MP similar to a Nikon FX D810 and far more advanced than the D610). Initially new about $1,795.

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Aug 11, 2018 06:11:23   #
Jupiter Creek
 
I hope this isn't taken wrongly.
My 610 is an incredible camera and if and when I ever learn how to take a photograph it will serve me more than well.

Whenever I feel frustrated by a camera and its inability (or is it mine?), I look at the picture that really hits me as being a really good picture that shows wonder and movement and setting and life and ... it was taken on some sort of pinhole thingy. I wish I could take as good a picture as this.
I look at this and want to go there, talk to that boy who is cleaning shoes, chat to the man whose shoes are being cleaned, look at the trees and ....

So maybe get a camera that takes pictures and think about the picture and the memory and the event and stop worrying about all the fancy whoo haaa thingy stuff.

Sorry, I'll go away and be quiet again.

Don't waste money on fancy cameras!!!



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Aug 11, 2018 06:12:42   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
tenny52 wrote:
Recently I bought a Panasonic FZ80 for my pending trip. So I have been busy learning its functions and I found it can do a lot more in picture taking and movie capturing than my D610 except detail/clarity/dynamic.
The question is whence the DSLR is a bigger unit, why can't the manufacturer pack those functions such as 4K burst mode, post focus mode, panoramic stitching, multi-focus stacking, live cropping etc. which I think can be achieved by software(firmware). Or the reason is my D610 being too primitive.
Recently I bought a Panasonic FZ80 for my pending ... (show quote)


"Corporate decision" is the best answer why.
Perhaps after polling users those features are not as desirable for the additional cost.
Perhaps it is more difficult to make the features you desire to the quality standards one would expect in a DSLR.
Bottom line you sound like my wife always asking why.
I say "Because".

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Aug 11, 2018 06:16:30   #
tenny52 Loc: San Francisco
 
Architect1776 wrote:
"Corporate decision" is the best answer why.
Perhaps after polling users those features are not as desirable for the additional cost.
Perhaps it is more difficult to make the features you desire to the quality standards one would expect in a DSLR.
Bottom line you sound like my wife always asking why.
I say "Because".

When I see the world as not what it should be, I ask the question "why not?"

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Aug 11, 2018 06:18:31   #
pithydoug Loc: Catskill Mountains, NY
 
tenny52 wrote:
Recently I bought a Panasonic FZ80 for my pending trip. So I have been busy learning its functions and I found it can do a lot more in picture taking and movie capturing than my D610 except detail/clarity/dynamic.
The question is whence the DSLR is a bigger unit, why can't the manufacturer pack those functions such as 4K burst mode, post focus mode, panoramic stitching, multi-focus stacking, live cropping etc. which I think can be achieved by software(firmware). Or the reason is my D610 being too primitive.
Recently I bought a Panasonic FZ80 for my pending ... (show quote)


Because it does not do it well! All hose functions can be done in post and one hell of lot better.

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Aug 11, 2018 07:00:56   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
tenny52 wrote:
Recently I bought a Panasonic FZ80 for my pending trip. So I have been busy learning its functions and I found it can do a lot more in picture taking and movie capturing than my D610 except detail/clarity/dynamic.
The question is whence the DSLR is a bigger unit, why can't the manufacturer pack those functions such as 4K burst mode, post focus mode, panoramic stitching, multi-focus stacking, live cropping etc. which I think can be achieved by software(firmware). Or the reason is my D610 being too primitive.
Recently I bought a Panasonic FZ80 for my pending ... (show quote)


I see the "dating" question has already been covered, so I'll add my two-cents' worth. Manufacturers could add all sorts of features at almost no cost by modifying the firmware. They can even add features by means of updates to the firmware. So why don't they? Profit. Even though it would cost nothing to tweak the firmware of the cheapest camera in the line, they save features for more expensive cameras. The prices are higher, so you get more features, and the company makes more money. Generally, speaking, the higher the price, the greater the profit margin. "You pays your money, and you takes your choice."

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Aug 11, 2018 07:02:53   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
Architect1776 wrote:
"Corporate decision" is the best answer why.
Perhaps after polling users those features are not as desirable for the additional cost.
Perhaps it is more difficult to make the features you desire to the quality standards one would expect in a DSLR.
Bottom line you sound like my wife always asking why.
I say "Because".


Right! Because. : )

Why would Nikon remove features from a camera upgrade, like the sensor-cleaning of the D3xxx series? Because.

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Aug 11, 2018 07:08:43   #
Gene51 Loc: Yonkers, NY, now in LSD (LowerSlowerDelaware)
 
tenny52 wrote:
Recently I bought a Panasonic FZ80 for my pending trip. So I have been busy learning its functions and I found it can do a lot more in picture taking and movie capturing than my D610 except detail/clarity/dynamic.
The question is whence the DSLR is a bigger unit, why can't the manufacturer pack those functions such as 4K burst mode, post focus mode, panoramic stitching, multi-focus stacking, live cropping etc. which I think can be achieved by software(firmware). Or the reason is my D610 being too primitive.
Recently I bought a Panasonic FZ80 for my pending ... (show quote)


I own a D800 and D810, and I do not rely upon "canned" programs or adjustments that they provide - I think they call them "picture controls" - I prefer to tailor and adjust my images to my taste and if I decide to go in a different direction with an image, I can simply create a virtual copy of my raw file without any adjustments and make it the way I want. Once you use a picture control or other built-in image enhancement setting on a jpeg all that data that is not used to create the image is discarded forever - there is no going back.

So, for my photography, I have no use for those "features" you are writing about. Also, the D600/610 is 6 yr old tech. So no, it lacks the innovation the FZ80 has. And what's more, the FZ80 packs 18 mp onto a tiny 1/2.3-inch sensor, compared to the D610's 24 mp on a full size sensor. The individual pixels on the FZ are 1.59µm² compared to the D610's 35.4 µm² - there is no question which one is going to produce better images in low light with high ISO. Comparing the two is like comparing a Bugatti Chiron ($2.5M, 15 mpg to 35 mpg) to a Toyota Prius Prime ($30K, 133 mpg) and panning the Bugatti because it only seats 2 people, has no room for luggage, and doesn't include a JBL based entertainment system with integrated GPS, remote climate control, SafeSense collision avoidance with pedestrian detection, blind spot monitor, backup camera, satellite radio, dynamic radar-based cruise control, lane departure alert with steering assist, and fully automatic headlights, high beams and windshield wipers.

Each car fits a certain set of widely different expectations - same goes for cameras.

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Aug 11, 2018 07:32:47   #
BebuLamar
 
tenny52 wrote:
Recently I bought a Panasonic FZ80 for my pending trip. So I have been busy learning its functions and I found it can do a lot more in picture taking and movie capturing than my D610 except detail/clarity/dynamic.
The question is whence the DSLR is a bigger unit, why can't the manufacturer pack those functions such as 4K burst mode, post focus mode, panoramic stitching, multi-focus stacking, live cropping etc. which I think can be achieved by software(firmware). Or the reason is my D610 being too primitive.
Recently I bought a Panasonic FZ80 for my pending ... (show quote)


So you know that one has to pay more to get less features.

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Aug 11, 2018 07:39:06   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
In-camera pano is a nice feature for a quick and easy panorama. Cell phones have had that feature for years.

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