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Aug 9, 2018 08:26:52   #
CanonTom Loc: Birmingham
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
If you want a quality wide angle lens, you should shop for an Canon EF-S 10–18 IS
or a used EF-S 10-22


I agree! I have an EF-S 10-18 IS I use on my crop Canon. It is inexpensive and extremely sharp, especially between 12-16 and very good wide open as well as at 18. For the money you can't go wrong.

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Aug 9, 2018 08:47:21   #
imagemeister Loc: mid east Florida
 
Sally D wrote:
I recently posted sample pictures taken with my 12 year old Sigma lens and received some great advice. Even so, I think I may be forced to buy a new wide angle lens to avoid quality disappointment. Two suggestions have been made. The Tamron 18-200 and the Canon 18-135. My question is if I want quality nearly equivalent to my Canon 100-400 L lens, do I need to buy another L lens? I am really not anxious to make another major investment of say more than $500. I am shooting a Canon Rebel SL1 and although I know I could upgrade my camera, so far I don’t really see the need. I’d really appreciate your suggestions. Thanks for your time.
I recently posted sample pictures taken with my 12... (show quote)


If you are serious about image quality, you do NOT want 18-200 or 18-135mm !! If you have the Sigma 18-35 f1.8 - it is the BEST !

If you must BUY something, I would recommend the Sigma 17-70 2.8-4. - NO, you do not need an L lens - or even a Canon lens !

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Aug 9, 2018 08:49:23   #
Gifted One Loc: S. E. Idaho
 
I shot APS-C for some time before going to FF. I have several L lenses and other Premium glass from third party. My go too APS-C kit is EFs 15-85 and 10-22. I also have the 18-135. I do not like the 17-40L and would rather poke a hole in a body cap than use one. Just a personal bias.

J. R.

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Aug 9, 2018 09:56:11   #
Sally D
 
Al Freeedman wrote:
I have to agree with Chg Canon. The Canon EF-S 10-18 that I use on my Canon T6i is a fantastic lens
Purchased from Canon used, (referb) This lens will give you very sharp images, and lots of DOF for any
cropping you'll want to do.

Captain Al


Thanks for the input. The only concern about that lens is that it leaves a big gap between it and my 100-400 lens. I’d like to avoid having to buy a third lens if I Can.

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Aug 9, 2018 09:59:07   #
Sally D
 
Gifted One wrote:
I shot APS-C for some time before going to FF. I have several L lenses and other Premium glass from third party. My go too APS-C kit is EFs 15-85 and 10-22. I also have the 18-135. I do not like the 17-40L and would rather poke a hole in a body cap than use one. Just a personal bias.

J. R.


Sounds like you are not a fan of the 17-40L! What’s your opinion of your 18-135 and which model is it? I like the idea of being able to fill the gap without a third lens.

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Aug 9, 2018 10:10:27   #
Sally D
 
imagemeister wrote:
If you are serious about image quality, you do NOT want 18-200 or 18-135mm !! If you have the Sigma 18-35 f1.8 - it is the BEST !

If you must BUY something, I would recommend the Sigma 17-70 2.8-4. - NO, you do not need an L lens - or even a Canon lens !

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I obviously don’t have that lens. Mine is about 12 years old and a 2.8-4.0. I have pretty much determined that my Sigma is NOT the best and probably not even adequate. The comparison between pictures taken with my L lens versus my earlier 100-300 mm Canon lens clearly shows that better glass equals better pictures. I realize that my f-stop should have been increased but beyond that, I’m laying some of the fault on my current Sigma. I know that in general, the newer Sigma’s are highly regarded. I’ll take a look at the Sigma 17-70.

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Aug 9, 2018 10:22:37   #
Sally D
 
sb wrote:
For a Canon APS-C camera the Canon 10-22mm is the gold standard - for about $600. Canon does not make "L" lenses for the APS-C cameras, but this lens has always been regarded as "L-quality". The newer, lighter 10-18mm is also very good at half the price.

Some photos taken with the 10-22mm lens:

http://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-221396-1.html


Thanks for responding. I’ll check them out.

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Aug 9, 2018 10:27:22   #
Sally D
 
TriX wrote:
another vote for the 17-40L IF it’s wide enough for you on a crop frame -they can be had regularly in the $350-375 range. An alternative is the 16-35 f4L which will be a bit more expensive. Both are of the quality of the 100-400L which you mentioned, if they’re wide enough for your use.


Thanks, I’ll take a look.

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Aug 9, 2018 10:51:48   #
Gifted One Loc: S. E. Idaho
 
Sally D wrote:
Sounds like you are not a fan of the 17-40L! What’s your opinion of your 18-135 and which model is it? I like the idea of being able to fill the gap without a third lens.


The other lens I have a negative bias toward is the 28-135 EF.

I have used all three versions of the 18-135 EFs and like most all of them. Lots on the used secondary market. If you don't shoot video and I don't the STM is a waste in my opinion.


It sounds like you need a midrange that starts at wide point. That would in my opinion make your 18-135 an excellent choice. But don't blame me if your are unhappy. "My," uses that glass and has no complaint. My eye tends to go to the extremes.

Check out Canon's refurbished program and get on their mailing list and look for sales.

J. R.

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Aug 9, 2018 11:09:50   #
Sally D
 
Gifted One wrote:
The other lens I have a negative bias toward is the 28-135 EF.

I have used all three versions of the 18-135 EFs and like most all of them. Lots on the used secondary market. If you don't shoot video and I don't the STM is a waste in my opinion.


It sounds like you need a midrange that starts at wide point. That would in my opinion make your 18-135 an excellent choice. But don't blame me if your are unhappy. "My," uses that glass and has no complaint. My eye tends to go to the extremes.

Check out Canon's refurbished program and get on their mailing list and look for sales.

J. R.
The other lens I have a negative bias toward is th... (show quote)

Thanks, JR. I’ve been looking on Amazon and checking their reviews. I can get a lightly used one with a 60 day warranty from a seller with a five-star rating for only $217. At that price I think I can hardly go wrong.

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Aug 9, 2018 11:52:37   #
TriX Loc: Raleigh, NC
 
Gifted One wrote:
I shot APS-C for some time before going to FF. I have several L lenses and other Premium glass from third party. My go too APS-C kit is EFs 15-85 and 10-22. I also have the 18-135. I do not like the 17-40L and would rather poke a hole in a body cap than use one. Just a personal bias.

J. R.


Just curious - what did you find so poor about the 17-40L? I'm not defending it just because I own one and am happy with it, but you've said this on a number of posts, and I'm wondering if maybe you got a bad copy or a defective one? DXOMark shows the sharpness to be about the same as the 16-35 f4L (which is .probably a slightly better lens, but also more expensive), and my results have been acceptable, at least to me (see below), although, depending on the OP's shooting style, it may not be wide enough on a crop frame body.


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Aug 9, 2018 12:02:17   #
Bill Emmett Loc: Bow, New Hampshire
 
For the lens of your choice, you don't have to shell out a pile of money. Just rent the lens from a good lens rental company. You know how long you'll need the lens, and they'll ship it to you, and you ship it back when you're finished. Then the lens does not become a dust catcher on your shelf.

B

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Aug 9, 2018 12:07:17   #
Gifted One Loc: S. E. Idaho
 
Sally D wrote:
Thanks, JR. I’ve been looking on Amazon and checking their reviews. I can get a lightly used one with a 60 day warranty from a seller with a five-star rating for only $217. At that price I think I can hardly go wrong.


I have bought a couple at -100USD in what I call sidewalk price ie private sale from what ever source.

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Aug 9, 2018 12:18:35   #
Gifted One Loc: S. E. Idaho
 
TriX wrote:
Just curious - what did you find so poor about the 17-40L? I'm not defending it just because I own one and am happy with it, but you've said this on a number of posts, and I'm wondering if maybe you got a bad copy or a defective one? DXOMark shows the sharpness to be about the same as the 16-35 f4L (which is .probably a slightly better lens, but also more expensive), and my results have been acceptable, at least to me (see below), although, depending on the OP's shooting style, it may not be wide enough on a crop frame body.
Just curious - what did you find so poor about the... (show quote)


TriX that is a fair question. I had a negative bias on fast fil also. I liked low ASA.

I look/looked at a lot of portfolios. Lot of people only had an abbreviated kit 5D? and 17-40. I have had lot of glass that I did not like and sold it only to see someone stellar images and happy smiles. It may buy another one or take loan of one. I love the 11-24L but it would be a waste to me. I am planning a purchase of the f4 16-35 that you speak of. I have FF and APS-C and never shoot the crop with L's. I like what I like with no apologies. But am willing to turn on a dime with new information.


J. R.

ps nice shot!

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Aug 9, 2018 12:34:16   #
TriX Loc: Raleigh, NC
 
Gifted One wrote:
TriX that is a fair question. I had a negative bias on fast fil also. I liked low ASA.

I look/looked at a lot of portfolios. Lot of people only had an abbreviated kit 5D? and 17-40. I have had lot of glass that I did not like and sold it only to see someone stellar images and happy smiles. It may buy another one or take loan of one. I love the 11-24L but it would be a waste to me. I am planning a purchase of the f4 16-35 that you speak of. I have FF and APS-C and never shoot the crop with L's. I like what I like with no apologies. But am willing to turn on a dime with new information.


J. R.

ps nice shot!
TriX that is a fair question. I had a negative bi... (show quote)


Thanks JR, I think the 16-35 f4L would be what I would buy if I were to buy another wide angle zoom also, but the 17-40L was such a bargain at $350 from a UHH member, that I couldn't pass it up!

Cheers,
Chris

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