arden1939

Make it a sport -- give the animals guns too...

WessoJPEG Loc: Cincinnati, Ohio

Quit killing animals, go to the grocery store and buy your meat.

sb Loc: Florida's East Coast

American Bison. People like "Buffalo Bill" would shoot them for fun from a train.

WessoJPEG Loc: Cincinnati, Ohio

They would shoot Indians from trains.

ole sarg Loc: south florida

It would only be sport if the animals had guns too!

FrankR Loc: NYC

When was the last time anybody saw a carrier pigeon? There were literally tens of millions of Bison until the XVIII Century. Seen any large herds recently. I understand and appreciate that hunters do contribute to conservation efforts but to say no species has gone extinct because of hunting is simply not true.

dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho

Please tell us how they used.....I cannot finish the sentence because you didn’t. Do you mean like hunters used to hunt. Firearms have been in use for hunting since prior to 1600. Did you know that. Personally I believe since 1500 but my reference materials are in another state and don’t feel like googling the information. That STILL leaves me 400 years. How far back will suit your purposes, perhaps the Stone Age? Recently a hunter made a clean humane kill on a black bear using a spear. Anti hunters went crazy with rage. So exactly what do you want? Millions of hunters already use archery and muzzle loading rifles for hunting, “the old way”.

But let’s look at this from my point of view rather than yours, from the Left. Who are any of you to complain, whine and bitch. If you don’t like hunting then simply DON’T HUNT. But hunters such as myself and literally millions of others hunt safely and kill animals humanely, according to the laws of the land. Through hunting, fishing, trapping we contribute Billions of dollars to game Departments which provide money to pay for the government regulation mentioned by another Liberal poster. Management of these animals is mandatory and it is money from sportsman that accomplishes that goal. Hunting is an honored tradition in not only America but in most other countries as well. Again, you don’t like it-don’t do it.

What have you personally done to help wildlife in America?

Dennis

dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho

Do you honestly think the meat from animals in those packages was born dead? Are you for real? This is a joke, Right?

Dennis

dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho

Well yes he did. William F. Cody was hired by the railroad to shoot buffalo for meat to feed railroad workers. Is this different than Indians stampeding buffalo over cliffs to kill them. Surely they must have known they could not possibly save and preserve the meat from hundreds of animals.

Dennis

dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho

I wonder if you and other seemingly anti hunters are against fishing as well. Imagine catching a poor fish on a hook through its mouth and then playing it until it is too tired to resist, only to be pulled from the water where it will suffocate to death. Poor thing.

Dennis

dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho

As a matter of fact I have seen several large herds lately and many are growing. You might have seen the movie, Dances With Wolves. Remember that large herd stampeding? I have seen that exact herd which has 1000’s of animals. There are several large herds of huntable proportions across Western America. Consider though, if we had herds of millions, where would we put them?

As for passenger pigeons, (yes I know you said carrier pigeons but I suspect you are talking about passenger pigeons) they were killed by market hunters, not sportsmen. Basically the same as our bison. People in the East wanted hides which buffalo provided. Blame Liberal Easterners if you just have yo blame somebody for what happened well over 100 years ago.

Dennis

Cykdelic Loc: Now outside of Chiraq & Santa Fe, NM

This is not helping to manage anything? How clueless can you be? How uninformed can you be?

will47 Loc: Indianapolis, IN

So, in other words, a high-velocity projectile to some part of the animal's body is humane? Trapping is an especially ugly way to die. Congratulations! You just won an award for being humane. Giving any government any money to manage anything is also very stupid.

dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho

Be gentle with him. Actually he is not too far from right. But he doesn't realize the government Fish and Game departments get much of their money from hunters and fishermans dollars. The land he is talking about is generally purchased by hunting and fishing groups such as the Rocky Mountain Elk Foundation, Pheasants Forever, The Wild Turkey Foundation, Ducks Unlimited and Trout Unlimited. I am sure I forgot a couple, please forgive me. I was the first chapter chairman of the RMEF in Canon City, CO. That organization alone, has raised untold millions of dollars to purchase private land from ranchers all over the country; land that elk and many other animals use for winter feeding grounds and so on. Had the ranch been sold to a private owner the land could have become small parcels of 40 acres owned by numerous land owners. Elk and deer would undoubtedly try to move out to other areas. By these organizations purchasing the land it remains in the public domain for everyone to use, even anti hunters. I know the RMEF goes in with Fish and Game departments to purchase these ranches and then the land is given to the Fish and Game department. This promotes quality land for ALL animals, not just ungulates but birds and small mammals as well. This benefits everybody. Again, anti hunters do not contribute anything to these land purchases nor generally speaking, does anybody else.

So once again, I ask people on this forum, hunters and non hunters, bird watchers, hikers and so on, what do you personally do to promote the long lasting stewardship of animals. Paying taxes generally doesn't count for much.

Dennis

peterg Loc: Santa Rosa, CA

Haven't seen any Passenger Pigeons lately. Perhaps they became extinct due to "hunters", not "sportsmen"? Or perhaps, folks want to call them pests not wildlife. The number of giraffes have dramatically declined, about 38% since 1985. Tell me how "sportsmen" who shoot giraffes helps the their population.