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Jul 11, 2018 12:42:23   #
Pochon53
 
What kind of paste is fast paste?

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Jul 11, 2018 12:45:31   #
mwsilvers Loc: Central New Jersey
 
speters wrote:
I have been to New York City a many times, I do not know what you mean by 200mph pace? Its just like anywhere else, I take my time to shoot! Being in the group, I would just let them know in advance that I may be stopping a lot to take pics and would catch up later! So, I tell them not to worry and not to pay attention to me!

I think that people who come from smaller, less densely populated and more lesurely paced environments can feel a bit overwhelmed in a city like New York which never slows down. People have often expressed the lack of friendliness of New Yorkers as they walk around the streets. But you can't smile and say good morning to everyone you pass when you're passing 100 people in a minute.

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Jul 11, 2018 12:46:02   #
Pochon53
 
What kind of paste is fast paste?

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Jul 11, 2018 12:55:05   #
James R. Kyle Loc: Saint Louis, Missouri (A Suburb of Ferguson)
 
Pochon53 wrote:
What kind of paste is fast paste?


Five Minute Epoxy.

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Jul 11, 2018 13:08:17   #
Hip Coyote
 
Recommend you not go to NYC to photograph sunsets. It is a vibrant place full of people, great architecture and city scenes. Focus on that. As far as Crater, the wife and I often go on hikes with other groups...no one is a photographer. I carry my camera attached to the front of my mindshift rotation backpack pack and am ready to shoot at a moment's notice. The other thing is that I tell my companions they will all moan when I take a picture and then beg for it when we get back. You will slow them down and they will speed you up. Finally, I enjoy the artistic aspects of photography. But in the end, when I compile photos of our trips, there are a few "artistic" shots, but I keep a lot of the people we are with, family etc. 25 years from now, it is doubtful your "artistic shot at sunset" will be so important that your family keeps it. They will keep a shot of a loved one that happens to be a very good photo.

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Jul 11, 2018 13:40:34   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
mwsilvers wrote:
They are. But, many out-of-towners might be shocked to find parking for a couple of hours might cost them $40 to $50. And lots of folks don't like to hand their car keys, and cars full of personal possessions, to random parking lot attendants in cities that are strange to them.


Here in the South, there are places you can park for $12/day...

NYC is like San Francisco — hyper-inflated.

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Jul 11, 2018 14:07:59   #
wdross Loc: Castle Rock, Colorado
 
bgrn wrote:
For starters this last few weeks have been great, a week in upstate New York visiting the city with my son and his family, a week of work, then last week camping at Crater Lake Oregon with several of our friends.

So here is my dilemma, how would you handle these.

First in New York, the city pace is about 200 mph, driving with my son is like a really good ride at an amusement park, not the best situation to take pictures. There were several times when a perfect shot presented itself, like a great sunset through the towering city for example. It's not like Utah, you can't just stop on the side of the road, set up and take the shot. Although I was able to get some nice shots in the museums and in central park. How do you handle really fast paste environments?

Next, at Crater Lake, I was the only one that is into any type of photography. When I would see something while hiking on a trail for example, I would stop and try to take the time to set up and take pictures from different angles and vantage points. I felt like the group we were hiking with wanted to go at a faster pace than I was allowing, even though most of the time they would just keep on going and I would catch up when i finished. But sometimes they would have to wait for me so that we all made sure we took the same and or correct trail spur. So how would you handle being in a group and being the only one who stops to take these pictures? (however my wife has learned that when she stops with me she actually finds more things to look at that she would have otherwise missed, she likes stopping with me now and is not so worried about the end but is starting to enjoy the trip)
For starters this last few weeks have been great, ... (show quote)


Without looking at all of the other answers, rent an Olympus or Panasonic system for theses special situations. I noticed that you said "take the time to set up" and how it didn't play well with others except your wife.

When you are on your own time or trip, we all know that setting up with a tripod will be the best. But unless you are with other photographers that understand that, you are at the mercy and whatever patience of the other parties. Most get very irritated fairly quickly. This can only be truely corrected by either not taking pictures (not an option in my book) or not setting up. The IS systems of the Olympus and Panasonic are 5.5 /6.5 stops and only limited by the fact the earth turns (they use gyroscopic systems). They are small and light and don't really require the tripod to create a stable "platform". I know this will push your photography towards "run and gun". But when with other non-photographers, this can become the situation.

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Jul 11, 2018 14:13:48   #
Ray and JoJo Loc: Florida--Tenneessee
 
And people wonder why I like Ten-a-see

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Jul 11, 2018 14:19:30   #
IBM
 
Simple do what you have to , go with your wife , or a group that is your speed . Or learn how to cover fotos faster

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Jul 11, 2018 14:24:28   #
shelty Loc: Medford, OR
 
You say "set up". I assume that means setting up a tripod and then fasten your camera to it, and then compose your picture. For several years now I just hand hold the camera and quickly take the picture. In all of my pictures I have not seen any camera movement, because most all lenses produced today have an image stabulation feature built in. Therefore you can handhold without fear of camera movement as long as you use a shutter speed of around 1/100 second. Back in the day, 1/100 second was pretty fast when Kodachrome was listed as iso 25. In other words, leave that bulky tripod at home unless you're taking some sort of specialized photography that requires it.

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Jul 11, 2018 14:27:49   #
n3eg Loc: West coast USA
 
I just recently completed a cross-country drive, shooting scenery along the way. I used a camera that was easy to shoot one-handed while I was driving. The hard part was changing ISO while in the New York tunnels and underpasses - fortunately the traffic was stopped enough to be able to do it!

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Jul 11, 2018 14:39:00   #
mwsilvers Loc: Central New Jersey
 
burkphoto wrote:
Here in the South, there are places you can park for $12/day...

NYC is like San Francisco — hyper-inflated.


Very true, but salaries in the New York City metropolitan area, which probably encompasses a population of close to 20 million people, are typically much higher as well to compensate for the cost of living. I'm retired now, but my wife's salary in New Jersey would be at least $50, 000 less if we were living in a smaller city in the Midwest.

This is the reason that many people in New York and New Jersey and other locations with a similarly inflated cost of living are living in modest looking houses, but can still afford expensive cars. Car prices are pretty much the same anywhere, as are most consumer goods. It's the cost of real estate, taxes, services and food, etc., that drive the cost of living from region to region. All one has to do is drive around the state of New Jersey to see the huge number of Lexus Mercedes-Benz, BMW, Tesla, Jaguar, and Audi motorcars on the roads here, and parked in the driveways of modest homes.

My own home would cost less than half its current value here if were living in a suburb of a smaller city elsewhere, and would cost close to twice as much if I lived in one of the more upscale towns of Northern New Jersey. As a result, tourists from other parts of the country often find vacationing in New York City prohibitively expensive. Hotels, dining, parking, and other expenses can be 2 to 3 times as high as they are in other places.

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Jul 11, 2018 14:41:23   #
JP Pixburgh Loc: Pittsburgh, PA
 
10MPlayer wrote:
When I go on a vacation with the family I go realizing it's not a photo shoot. It's a family vacation. If I want to go on a photo shoot I go alone. That's why I don't go on many photo shoots. It's a lonely pursuit. I'd rather enjoy the family time. But that's just me.


10M, I hear you loud and clear. In my 1st marriage I took many many pictures because my wife was a work-a-holic. It was lonely and I took up my time with photography. In retrospect it was a blessing because I still love photography. As for her, she's long gone and I remarried a beautiful awesome woman who just happens to love photography too. Now we have a family and the cameras don't get picked up as much as they used to. But it's so cool to have a person who looks out the window then takes off for her camera and gets that shot.

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Jul 11, 2018 15:01:48   #
shelty Loc: Medford, OR
 
NYC is not a vacation, it's a hassle, and you couldn't pay me to go back there again.

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Jul 11, 2018 15:03:34   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
mwsilvers wrote:
Very true, but salaries in the New York City metropolitan area, which probably encompasses a population of close to 20 million people, are typically much higher as well to compensate for the cost of living. I'm retired now, but my wife's salary in New Jersey would be at least $50, 000 less if we were living in a smaller city in the Midwest. It's the reason that many people in New York and New Jersey and other locations with a similarly inflated cost of living are living in modest looking houses, but can still afford expensive cars. Car prices are pretty much the same anywhere, as are most consumer goods. It's the cost of real estate, taxes, services and food, etc., that drive the cost of living from region to region. All one has to do is drive around the state of New Jersey to see the huge number of Lexus Mercedes-Benz, BMW, Tesla, Jaguar, and Audi motorcars on the roads here.and parked in the driveways of modest homes.
Very true, but salaries in the New York City metro... (show quote)


Well there’s a Bentley dealer in High Point, NC, Rolls Royce and Tesla dealers in Raleigh, and Lexus, Audi, Mercedes, and BMW dealers all over this area (Piedmont Triad). The difference is that you see a lot more large homes on large lots here.

Why have so many migrated here from elsewhere? Cheap labor, power, water, natural gas, gasoline, real estate... and a friendlier culture. AND people can sell a dinky house on Long Island and buy a 3500 sq. ft. house with a pool for about the same price. Then they complain about their “low” salaries (which are, of course, adjusted for cost of living). “But boss, I was making 40K more up there...”

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