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Jul 6, 2018 08:26:11   #
rmalarz Loc: Tempe, Arizona
 
I'm in the same camp as rmorrison1116. BBF is pretty useless. Why complicate things by adding another button do something the shutter release does? The only controls I need on a camera are ISO setting, aperture, and shutter release. On some, I do need a control to advance the film to the next frame.
--Bob

inclinerr wrote:
I have a Nikon D3400 camera with the two kit lens 18-55 and 70-300. My enjoyment with this camera in my retirement is just wonderful.
However I read about changing the button on the back to do the focus and use only the shutter release to take the picture.
Now I am juggling using two buttons 1) to focus and 2) snap the picture. This sometimes has caused me to miss an action shot.
Has anyone else tried out this arrangement of buttons on their camera and what are your opinions, advantages, and or short comings?

Here is a 3 photos showing what I have shot with the camera using the 55-300 lens.
I have a Nikon D3400 camera with the two kit lens ... (show quote)

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Jul 6, 2018 08:36:28   #
Elsiss Loc: Bayside, NY, Boynton Beach, Fl.
 
I use BBF for everything. It works specially well when taking photos of my ever-active grandchildren.

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Jul 6, 2018 08:52:37   #
Jaackil Loc: Massachusetts
 
inclinerr wrote:
I have a Nikon D3400 camera with the two kit lens 18-55 and 70-300. My enjoyment with this camera in my retirement is just wonderful.
However I read about changing the button on the back to do the focus and use only the shutter release to take the picture.
Now I am juggling using two buttons 1) to focus and 2) snap the picture. This sometimes has caused me to miss an action shot.
Has anyone else tried out this arrangement of buttons on their camera and what are your opinions, advantages, and or short comings?

Here is a 3 photos showing what I have shot with the camera using the 55-300 lens.
I have a Nikon D3400 camera with the two kit lens ... (show quote)


Very nice images. Back Button Focus requires some practice and knowing how to use it. You most likely miss some shots when you first start to use it. I would suggest watching Steve Perry’s video on Back Button focus. He does a great job explaining how and why to use it as well as how and why to use the different focus modes.
Personally when I switched over I also missed some shots but once I got used to it my keeper rate went way up.
Good luck

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Jul 6, 2018 08:55:53   #
starlifter Loc: Towson, MD
 
I have been using BBF on my d7200 for years. My thumb automatically goes to the BBf buton when I raise the camera to my eye. No problems focusing. I don't think I could go back to shutter button focus.

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Jul 6, 2018 08:56:25   #
rchadlock Loc: Plano, Texas
 
I changed to BBF early on and have loved it ever since. I shoot horse races, and the continuous focus and burst mode work well. BBF does take a little getting use to, but is worth the persistence.

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Jul 6, 2018 09:03:14   #
srt101fan
 
rmalarz wrote:
I'm in the same camp as rmorrison1116. BBF is pretty useless. Why complicate things by adding another button do something the shutter release does? The only controls I need on a camera are ISO setting, aperture, and shutter release. On some, I do need a control to advance the film to the next frame.
--Bob


Bob, what happened? A fly in your oatmeal this morning?

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Jul 6, 2018 09:10:32   #
camerapapi Loc: Miami, Fl.
 
Using BBF is my standard. No, I have no issues using it for action.
What should be understood is that the BBF is only to focus the camera, the shutter button takes care of the exposure only.

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Jul 6, 2018 09:10:36   #
rmalarz Loc: Tempe, Arizona
 
No, not hardly. Just a bit of fun. That was how it was meant, at least.
--Bob
srt101fan wrote:
Bob, what happened? A fly in your oatmeal this morning?

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Jul 6, 2018 09:28:46   #
David Kay Loc: Arlington Heights IL
 
kenievans wrote:
I use BBF almost all the time for static shots or when not trying to stop motion. I can lock in the focus then use a different area to meter the exposure with the shutter button. Great for shots with a variance in light sources or high dynamics like night shots. It doesn't work well with action shots. You need your focus to change as the subject moves. That is when I use AI Focus. I am by no means an expert and I hope I explained it correctly but this works for me.


On action shots just keep holding the bbf down and it is continuous focus.

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Jul 6, 2018 09:38:45   #
Nalu Loc: Southern Arizona
 
When using BBF, you have to have the button sufficiently depressed to keep your AF system operating. I used it exclusively for a long time with bird photography (my main photography goal) because I thought it was the thing to do. But then I began to notice that sometimes when viewing images in post, I did not see the active AF point in the in the image and many times those images were not quite sharp. I kept scratching my head wondering why the image showed no active AF point when I knew I had the button depressed, or did I. It takes a certain amount of pressure to activate the AF system with the back button. What I suspect was going on was when concentrating on a bird I might inadvertently relax my thumb just a bit and unknowingly not activate the AF system during exposure. Operator error! So I thought in order to avoid the mistake, when you use the shutter release button, it is impossible to not activate the AF system as you depress the shutter button to take a picture. So by not using BBF, you are taking one variable out of the action of taking a picture and simplifying the process.
Conclusion: I have now gone to using the shutter button most of the time and the active AF point shows up in all of my images and I'm getting more keepers. Don't get me wrong, there are times when BBF is called for.

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Jul 6, 2018 10:10:32   #
williejoha
 
Use it for a while, it becomes second nature. At that point you will not go back. Promise.
WJH

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Jul 6, 2018 10:12:20   #
Capn_Dave
 
Kenievans, it works the same way, just set your camera to AI focus and forget it. If you are shooting action just hold the button down.
if you are shooting a still, set your focus point on the subject and press the button and let go that will lock your focus, recompose your
image anyway you like. Your subject will still be in focus

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Jul 6, 2018 10:34:04   #
Bill_de Loc: US
 
Nalu wrote:
When using BBF, you have to have the button sufficiently depressed to keep your AF system operating. I used it exclusively for a long time with bird photography (my main photography goal) because I thought it was the thing to do. But then I began to notice that sometimes when viewing images in post, I did not see the active AF point in the in the image and many times those images were not quite sharp. I kept scratching my head wondering why the image showed no active AF point when I knew I had the button depressed, or did I. It takes a certain amount of pressure to activate the AF system with the back button. What I suspect was going on was when concentrating on a bird I might inadvertently relax my thumb just a bit and unknowingly not activate the AF system during exposure. Operator error! So I thought in order to avoid the mistake, when you use the shutter release button, it is impossible to not activate the AF system as you depress the shutter button to take a picture. So by not using BBF, you are taking one variable out of the action of taking a picture and simplifying the process.
Conclusion: I have now gone to using the shutter button most of the time and the active AF point shows up in all of my images and I'm getting more keepers. Don't get me wrong, there are times when BBF is called for.
When using BBF, you have to have the button suffic... (show quote)


Do you now use the 'back button' to lock focus and exposure when you want to recompose with a static subject? Once I started doing that I realized I could always leave my cameras in continuous focus mode. For me it's the best of both worlds. When I do recompose my exposure is still base on the light hitting the subject.

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Jul 6, 2018 10:35:26   #
RickL Loc: Vail, Az
 
I watched Steve Perry's video on back button focus,set up my bff on continuous and have used it exclusively for a year. It is easy to use. I use it on all forms of photography, especially with my D810 in action wildlife.

Rick

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Jul 6, 2018 10:45:55   #
toxdoc42
 
Most of the time I prefer the BBF on my D3400. Occasionally I forget to refocus and I kick myself, but the ability to use continuous focus without accidentally shooting of several photos is very great for me. Also if you hit the button while viewing it, the image gets locked so if you want to delete it in the camera you have to unlock it. That is a minimal.distraction.

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