graybeard

I have been using my Canon T3 for several years and have no complaints, but I am toying with the idea of getting a new crop sensor Canon as my primary, and relegating my T3 as a backup. Back in film days I preferred the 2 camera approach, one with a wide-angle and the other with a telephoto, and carrying a fast lens for low light. Anyway, I have narrowed my choices to 3 models. All have the same sensor size and the same digital processor, as well as an articulated screen. The rest is bells and whistles. The SL2 is the smallest and lightest and cheapest, all of which rate for me. The T7i and the 77D are the other two. I can get a SL2 somewhere in the $375-450 range, and the others at 100-200 more, up to about 700. I do not do video, and I take one shot at a time (usually). No flash, no, or little tripod, no or little post processing. Always use only available light, I guess I am kind of a dinosaur. But hey, if you have HAD EXPERIENCE with any of these cameras, please let me benefit from your opinion.

Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States

I have a T1i that is still serving me well. I myself, would consider the T6s as a second camera. (I've not looked at the T7 series specs yet.)

graybeard

I love it !! I get such quick response here. I think what I am asking is how is a T7i or 77D superior to an SL2 considering the weight and cost differentials??

graybeard

Also this: SL2 and T7i are in the rebel series. 77D is not. Significant ??

Peterff Loc: O'er The Hills and Far Away, in Themyscira.

The SL2 is small and light, but you may want to look at the available accessories that you think you may want in the future. Do you think that you may want to use a battery grip in future? I don't think that the SL2 is designed to use one, The T7i and 77D are able to accept one, either Canon or third party.

Another consideration is what future upgrades you may consider. The controls on the 77D are similar to the 80D, and presumably the successor to that. If you see another upgrade in the future, especially to a more robust, better weather sealed camera then the 77D could be worth considering.

That said all of the options you mentioned would be a huge update from the T3. It is also worth considering a refurb body when they are in stock. They come with a 1 year warranty, the same as new. I got a refurb 80D last August and I'm very happy with it.

Good luck

Rongnongno Loc: FL

A canon?

loosecanon Loc: Central Texas

77d has a top screen, others don't. Also has far more advanced focus points and software.

graybeard

Thanks for your reply. My present backup, a 350D, has a battery grip, and I consider it additional weight and bulk, and don't want any in my future. From my reading of the specs, the 77D is better than the 80D. But OK you brought up weather sealing. I guess the 77D has it and the other's don't. BTW, just for the record, Canon has the damdest model nomenclature. You can never tell what is better than what. Also this, my camera is a T3, or a 1100D, or a Kiss something or other. WTH is that all about ??

graybeard

Oh yeah, the top screen. I like that. But is it worth another 2 or 3 hundred? It has the same processor.

loosecanon Loc: Central Texas

The 77d is not weather sealed. For me the top screen is important.

Peterff Loc: O'er The Hills and Far Away, in Themyscira.

Product naming is a little strange with Canon, and personally I see no benefit in having different product nomenclature for Japan, North America, and the rest of the world. However I find it easy to navigate personally. As for the 77D and the 80D, the 80D is a more robust camera, but the feature set of the 77D is very good and in some areas slightly better than the older 80D. The upcoming 90D will most likely surpass the 77D. https://www.digitalrev.com/article/canon77dvs80d . I don't believe that the 77D has weather sealing, but you simply may not need that.

From what you have said the 77D would be a better choice for you than the 80D, but the SL2 may be plenty adequate, it's a very similar spec to the 77D. They're all good cameras, so which appeals to you most should serve you well.

revhen Loc: By the beautiful Hudson

80D. You can use all your lenses with it. Geat camera!

TonyBot

As I understand it, the 77D is a lesser version of the 80D (and currently top of the "enthusiast" line - next step up would be the 7Dii). If I were to go with an APSc for my next purchase, the 80D would be the close second to the 7Dii - and a whole lot less.

robertjerl Loc: Corona, California

77D is not the successor to the 80D, it has a bit newer tech on some things but doesn't have all the 80D controls etc and not as much weather sealing.
The 77D is what would have been the T7s under the old model number system. A 90D is yet to be announced but rumored to either be for the fall photo exhibits (holiday buying season here in the US) or next spring.

Photocraig

I was under similar constraints when I purchased my 77D last Fall. The differences between the 80D and the 77D, as I remember, are: Smaller (rebel style) battery = Shorter charge--but not baad--weight reduction here.
No weather sealing.
Penta Mirror vs a Prism. + Dimmer Viewfinder. I can't tell the difference with 74 year old refurbished eyes. Weight reduction here vs the 80D.
Max Shutter 1/4000 vs 1/8000. When was the last time you used 1/8000?
No Custom setting on the mode dial on teh 77Dto allow an alternate set of CF's for different purposes. For me it was a way to have a quick toggle between Back Button Focus and Half shutter depress. Avail on the 80D

The benefits over the T7i--FOR ME--are;
Top screen because i'm used to the enthusiast models from Film Daze.
Rear wheel selector.
Overall operation more familiar to the XXD operator than the Rebel models. For teh OP coming from a REbel, he might choose the opposite.

They all have flip out screens, touch screen, wifi/nfw and Canon Smart Phone connectivity, 24 MPX Sensor and Digic 7 (I think).

The 7Ti, 77D and 80D have 45 focus points and I believe all are Cross Point. All have dual Pixel AF which works for stills in Live View.

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