Harder to Be A Liberal (Page 2): actualy i am not on social security payouts. Nor do i think that i am being put down by the man and thus not responsible for the mess i am in. I also...

sinatraman Loc: Vero Beach Florida, Earth,alpha quaudrant

actualy i am not on social security payouts. Nor do i think that i am being put down by the man and thus not responsible for the mess i am in. I also hate to burst the bubble of conservatives hate poor people theory, but studies have repeatedly shown that those with conservative values, especially fundamentalist christians, gave much more financial support as well as volunteer their time to suport charities that help the poor and homeles, than those who have liberal values. Liberals talk the talk but do not walk the walk. For example nothing stops warren buffet or bill gates from not taking any deductions and paying more than they are required to in income tax. Liberals are real good at spending YOUR money and are tight as ebenezer scrooge about spending theirs.

ephraim Imperio

sinatraman wrote:

actualy i am not on social security payouts. Nor ... (show quote)

Who gave more money to charity, Romney or Obama???

http://nation.foxnews.com/mitt-romney/2012/01/24/whos-greedy-obama-gave-1-charity-romney-gave-15

Bob.J Loc: On The Move

When did Social Security become a liberal left wing hand out?
I am under the impression it is something you pay into while you work and that is what determines how much you receive when you decide to go on SS.
So isn't it your money?

SpeedyWilson Loc: Upstate South Carolina

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lost_found

ephraim Imperio wrote:

quote=sinatraman actualy i am not on social secur... (show quote)

to quote Willard's dad; "one years return could be for show" follow your father's example and release a decades worth. The American people need to know who they are voting for. (false news is right "up there" with wikipedia as a "credable" source. find more unbiased sources for quoting supportive evidence.)

Blurryeyed Loc: NC Mountains.

Bob.J wrote:

When did Social Security become a liberal left wing hand out?
I am under the impression it is something you pay into while you work and that is what determines how much you receive when you decide to go on SS.
So isn't it your money?

No it is not your money and has not been for quite a few years now. The money in the so called Social Security Trust Fund has long been spent, the payroll taxes are really little more than another form of taxation that supplement the general fund as the SS trust fund was spent and replaced with special treasuries that are little more than interest bearing IOU's. There is no trust fund, that is an important thing to consider when you take a look at social security, so all the payments come from current revenues and borrowing, those who receive benefit are doing so not from the money that they paid in, but are receiving that benefit at the expense of those who are currently paying taxes.

dtcracer

Social Security is not a Liberal payout, it is a retirement investment that each working American citizen pays into during their working career.

RixPix wrote:

sinatraman wrote:

It is harder to be a conservative then a liberal, cause you have to pay for all the liberals "gimmie"s. Not to mention acepting personal RESPONSIBILITY FOR YOUR LIFE INSTEAD OF HAVING A LIBERAL VICTIM MENTALITY. Instead of trying to turn the US into France, why don't all liberals just move to France?

And what are you paying for? What's the complaint? I thought you were on SS benefits...that's a liberal payout you know.

Blurryeyed Loc: NC Mountains.

dtcracer wrote:

Social Security is not a Liberal payout, it is a r... (show quote)

Social Security is a Ponzi Scheme that is about to run out of money... Study the CBO reports regarding Social Secutiry, now that the Boomers are retiring if Social Security does not see major reform it's days are numbered.

dtcracer

It is a fact that many of us who pay into Social Security during our lives will never be eligible to draw it upon retirement. The Social Security fund has been broke for many years, due to the Government using our money to fund other failing Government programs.

Blurryeyed wrote:

quote=dtcracer Social Security is not a Liberal p... (show quote)

dtcracer

It is well known that conservative Christian religious organizations give more than most other organizations. Conservative Christians are more likely to give to and fund charity organizations than liberal organizations. Liberals are more likely to try to take credit for the charitable acts of the conservatives to bolster their images without putting forth effort. The only time a liberal is willing to give is if it benefits them. Such as liberal businesses giving to charity, only for the tax break benefits they receive in return.

SteveR wrote:

Who, after all, runs the Salvation Army? As I've ... (show quote)

greymule Loc: Colorado

>>Who gave more money to charity, Romney or Obama???<<

The Mormon Church absolutely demands a minimum 10 percent tithe that goes to SLC. So I'm not sure that's charity: supporting year long missions all over the world to convert people to Mormonism.

Bob.J Loc: On The Move

Blurryeyed wrote:

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Oh, so it's not my money. Hmm....
So when I become eligible for SS it will be a liberal hand out.
Because I didn't pay into it
So that makes me a thief?
So if I never apply for SS when I'm eligible, what does that make me?

greymule Loc: Colorado

Oh, so it's not my money. Hmm....
So when I become eligible for SS it will be a liberal hand out.
Because I didn't pay into it
So that makes me a thief?
So if I never apply for SS when I'm eligible, what does that make me?[/quote]

Stoopid.

You can bet that all the TeaPees and other loud conservatives will quietly take all they can get in Medicare and SS. I love the protest signs that say, "Keep your Govt out of my Medicare."

Blurryeyed Loc: NC Mountains.

Bob.J wrote:

quote=Blurryeyed quote=Bob.J When did Social Sec... (show quote)

You miss my point entirely. Your money is long gone, it is your children who will be paying the bill for your social security... there was no investment of the money that you put in, that money was spent on programs other than social security, it was just an additional tax used for other purposes, so in a way it is nothing more than another entitlement... the system was designed to be a pension fund, the monies were supposed to be invested and there was to be a fund that your retirement would be paid from... but they spent the money on other programs... there is no fund! What you have is a promise of entitlement, nothing more. You did not do that, I did not do that, our government did. That is just a simple truth.

Blurryeyed Loc: NC Mountains.

greymule wrote:

Oh, so it's not my money. Hmm....
So when I become eligible for SS it will be a liberal hand out.
Because I didn't pay into it
So that makes me a thief?
So if I never apply for SS when I'm eligible, what does that make me?

Stoopid.

You can bet that all the TeaPees and other loud conservatives will quietly take all they can get in Medicare and SS. I love the protest signs that say, "Keep your Govt out of my Medicare."[/quote]

Who said that makes anyone a theif, it is a simple reality that the program is becoming bankrupt, that the trust fund has already been spent by our government and that our children will be taxed to pay the benefits that we receive... That is a reality, you can call it Tea Pee if you want pendejo, but it is a fact.