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Feb 26, 2018 23:20:39   #
Jaackil Loc: Massachusetts
 
frankraney wrote:
If it is a public place, no consent is needed from anyone. Schools sometimes do however require parental consent for photos taken at the school.


Thank you!!!
Yes that is true about schools they do have the right to require permission.

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Feb 26, 2018 23:55:59   #
aellman Loc: Boston MA
 
boberic wrote:
Answer her politely " you can take all the free pictures you want, as long as you take them yourself". Or you could say--why did you have to pay the doctor for delivering your own child.


Best answer yet. Great comeback!

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Feb 27, 2018 08:23:46   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
Gone

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Feb 27, 2018 18:37:14   #
DavidThompson Loc: Asheville, NC
 
I shot film photos of my kid’s soccer team and wife and l did not have to take a turn at being the team manager, or the treasurer or making arrangements for motels when traveling, deciding on group eating to maintain team morale, etc. That was prior to digital. If I got a “good” picture of a kid, I would give a 4”x6” to the family. There were instances where a family might be single parent, or a divorce or “hard times” and those of us who could would secretly finance small expenses for a kid. There were two reasons: 1- We didn’t want a kid to have to leave the team as a “victim of circumstances” or the kid was a skilled athlete and none of us wanted to lose him or, 2 - It just seemed like the thing to do. When we did have a professional photographer come to shoot the high school team and photoshopped an absent kid into the picture and had the high school as a backdrop, there was about a $15 charge for an 8x10 and again, “the high school coach” made shire that any kid unable to purchase a picture received one. Sometimes these efforts seemed totally morally appropriate and sometimes it was less clear and the hidden donner just accepted it.

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Feb 28, 2018 17:27:38   #
Dickwood33 Loc: Alberta, Canada
 
E-mail her all of the above!

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Feb 28, 2018 21:31:33   #
Jaackil Loc: Massachusetts
 
DavidThompson wrote:
I shot film photos of my kid’s soccer team and wife and l did not have to take a turn at being the team manager, or the treasurer or making arrangements for motels when traveling, deciding on group eating to maintain team morale, etc. That was prior to digital. If I got a “good” picture of a kid, I would give a 4”x6” to the family. There were instances where a family might be single parent, or a divorce or “hard times” and those of us who could would secretly finance small expenses for a kid. There were two reasons: 1- We didn’t want a kid to have to leave the team as a “victim of circumstances” or the kid was a skilled athlete and none of us wanted to lose him or, 2 - It just seemed like the thing to do. When we did have a professional photographer come to shoot the high school team and photoshopped an absent kid into the picture and had the high school as a backdrop, there was about a $15 charge for an 8x10 and again, “the high school coach” made shire that any kid unable to purchase a picture received one. Sometimes these efforts seemed totally morally appropriate and sometimes it was less clear and the hidden donner just accepted it.
I shot film photos of my kid’s soccer team and wif... (show quote)


Not sure how that applies to the question at hand.

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Feb 28, 2018 21:34:48   #
Dickwood33 Loc: Alberta, Canada
 
How to reply to the mother.

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Feb 28, 2018 21:46:34   #
Jaackil Loc: Massachusetts
 
Dickwood33 wrote:
How to reply to the mother.


I should tell her how he shot film photos of his kids soccer games and how the coach made sure every kid got one?

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Mar 1, 2018 02:52:32   #
BHC Loc: Strawberry Valley, JF, USA
 
Jaackil wrote:
I should tell her how he shot film photos of his kids soccer games and how the coach made sure every kid got one?

You're close. Just tell her that the coach will pay for it and she needs to get the $15 from him first.

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Mar 1, 2018 06:00:35   #
Jaackil Loc: Massachusetts
 
BHC wrote:
You're close. Just tell her that the coach will pay for it and she needs to get the $15 from him first.


What? What are you smoking?

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Mar 1, 2018 06:19:26   #
Stephan G
 
BHC wrote:
You're close. Just tell her that the coach will pay for it and she needs to get the $15 from him first.


Passing the buck in reverse?

If anything should be stated to the woman, it should be this. "Ma'am, I put together a package deal for the whole team and followed through with it. I have been doing this for a while. Additional photograph copies are charged at a nominal fee to cover the costs. The original package belongs to the team, pro forma. I do not provide anything beyond that."

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Mar 1, 2018 06:22:42   #
Stephan G
 
Jaackil wrote:
Not sure how that applies to the question at hand.


Everything stated in this thread is tangential to the original post. This includes your postings as well. Anecdotal comments are sincere attempts to flesh out those tangents. (QED.)

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Mar 1, 2018 06:27:09   #
Logan1949
 
Jaackil wrote:
“Why should I have to pay for a picture of my own child?”

Thank you for asking. The cost for downloading the detailed picture is a 40% hockey-team discount off of the usual professional price; this helps to offset the cost of taking and printing the free pictures given to each team member. Who all did you want to send the pictures to?

[If you are face-to-face, smile with wide-eyed innocence as if you were really answering an honest question by someone who just really wanted to know the answer. "Thank you for asking." puts you on their side. "The cost . . . is a 40% ... discount" shows that the cost is a bargain. "helps to offset the cost..." Does not imply that it completely covers the cost or makes a profit. "...the free pictures given to each team member." Shows that they are helping to support the team. "Who all did you want to send the pictures to?" This keeps them engaged in the dialog, assumes they will pay, and should help them to realize that dividing $15 among many recipients will make each one cheaper.]

[Note: The word "Cost" is what the retailer has to pay to provide the goods or services. The word "Price" is what the retailer charges the customer including any profit for the retailer.]

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Mar 1, 2018 06:32:59   #
Jaackil Loc: Massachusetts
 
Stephan G wrote:
Everything stated in this thread is tangential to the original post. This includes your postings as well. Anecdotal comments are sincere attempts to flesh out those tangents. (QED.)


Not really at all. There are no parallels nothing tangential at all other than a camera and a team. This is not a case of a person who can not afford the images. The coach shouldn’t have to pay for this image because the woman won’t. This is an entitled woman who thinks she is entitled to the image. But please feel free to draw this tangential lines for me. You did go off in a tangent though telling your own story which I still fail to see how it addresses the original question. The question was How To Respond. I do not see a response at all. You told a nice story about what you did but you did not answer the question.

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Mar 1, 2018 06:36:59   #
Jaackil Loc: Massachusetts
 
Logan1949 wrote:
Thank you for asking. The cost for downloading the detailed picture is a 40% hockey-team discount off of the usual professional price; this helps to offset the cost of taking and printing the free pictures given to each team member. Who all did you want to send the pictures to?

[If you are face-to-face, smile with wide-eyed innocence as if you were really answering an honest question by someone who just really wanted to know the answer. "Thank you for asking." puts you on their side. "The cost . . . is a 40% ... discount" shows that the cost is a bargain. "helps to offset the cost..." Does not imply that it completely covers the cost or makes a profit. "...the free pictures given to each team member." Shows that they are helping to support the team. "Who all did you want to send the pictures to?" This keeps them engaged in the dialog, assumes they will pay, and should help them to realize that dividing $15 among many recipients will make each one cheaper.]

[Note: The word "Cost" is what the retailer has to pay to provide the goods or services. The word "Price" is what the retailer charges the customer including any profit for the retailer.]
Thank you for asking. The cost for downloading th... (show quote)


This is pretty good. Not as good as the previously suggested “are you a communist?” 😀. But Definately more tactful! Thank you.

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