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Feb 21, 2018 14:18:00   #
chrisscholbe Loc: Kansas City, MO
 
This accurately portrays MY position.



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Feb 21, 2018 14:41:24   #
thom w Loc: San Jose, CA
 
chrisscholbe wrote:
This accurately portrays MY position.



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Feb 21, 2018 16:46:52   #
Steven Seward Loc: Cleveland, Ohio
 
chrisscholbe wrote:
This accurately portrays MY position.

I agree on every one of those points. The part Conservatives have an argument with is when anti-gun activists think that simply taking guns away from all the law-abiding citizens will somehow stop the criminals from doing their evil deeds. All the countries with the highest murder and crime rates do not let their citizens own guns. Yet the United States, which has by far the highest gun ownership in the World, has only an average murder rate compared to all other countries. Same goes for several other countries with high gun ownership. Norway, France, Canada, Austria, Iceland, Germany, Finland, Switzerland, and Australia are all in the top 20 countries of private gun ownership per capita, but have low murder and crime rates.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Estimated_number_of_guns_per_capita_by_country

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Feb 22, 2018 09:45:30   #
ole sarg Loc: south florida
 
No anti gun activist that I know of has espoused taking away anyone's guns except from those who should not have them like crazy people!

I would like a citation from a reliable source that says otherwise.

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Feb 22, 2018 10:54:42   #
chrisscholbe Loc: Kansas City, MO
 
Another point of view.


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Feb 22, 2018 11:46:03   #
Wrangler Loc: North Texas
 
I taught school for 32 years. I have been trained to use firearms. I have a license to carry and have never had to shoot anyone except in combat. I hope and pray that I never have to shoot anyone.

My job as a teacher was to teach, not take someone's life. Perhaps schools would be better served by having a police presence in the schools. Said police presence would be professionals who are trained to protect students and staff against violent attacks.

There is a problem. Mentally ill people are not permitted to own firearms. If one does, he/she is already a criminal and should be treated as such.

This is only my opinion.

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Mar 18, 2018 15:01:39   #
chrisscholbe Loc: Kansas City, MO
 
Interesting how few 2nd Amendment Rights people commented on this.

I guess that means they agree.

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Mar 18, 2018 15:10:47   #
EyeSawYou
 
ole sarg wrote:
No anti gun activist that I know of has espoused taking away anyone's guns except from those who should not have them like crazy people!

I would like a citation from a reliable source that says otherwise.


Well you do know of one, you might not be aware of his position on this but here it is.

http://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-519461-1.html


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Mar 18, 2018 15:14:18   #
EyeSawYou
 
chrisscholbe wrote:
This accurately portrays MY position.


Here's one for you



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Mar 18, 2018 17:18:22   #
Texcaster Loc: Queensland
 
EyeSawYou wrote:
Here's one for you


Do you ever get tired of being a tool of the alt right Evangelicals? 80% of Evangelicals have been co opted by the alt right to make up the numbers for Bannon's movement. These poor folks would have no idea of their new de facto political status.

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Mar 18, 2018 17:25:30   #
WNYShooter Loc: WNY
 
ole sarg wrote:
No anti gun activist that I know of has espoused taking away anyone's guns except from those who should not have them like crazy people!

I would like a citation from a reliable source that says otherwise.


How about an Anti Gun Senator....from her own mouth:

https://youtu.be/Mj4AcjyuV38?t=19s

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Mar 18, 2018 18:02:21   #
Wrangler Loc: North Texas
 
Texcaster wrote:
Do you ever get tired of being a tool of the alt right Evangelicals? 80% of Evangelicals have been co opted by the alt right to make the numbers for Bannon's movement. These poor folks would have no idea of their new de facto political status.


What is "alt right evangelical"? What is "Bannon's movement"?

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Mar 18, 2018 18:10:02   #
mwalsh Loc: Houston
 
ole sarg wrote:
No anti gun activist that I know of has espoused taking away anyone's guns except from those who should not have them like crazy people!

I would like a citation from a reliable source that says otherwise.


That is a pretty broad statement reflecting either innocent naivety or blatant disregard of reality.

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Mar 18, 2018 18:15:56   #
Texcaster Loc: Queensland
 
Wrangler wrote:
What is "alt right evangelical"? What is "Bannon's movement"?


Like I said, unaware of the new Evangelical de facto political status. These are not new news stories, you have to take some responsibility. It's not all the good ship Trump.

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Mar 18, 2018 18:49:13   #
Wrangler Loc: North Texas
 
Texcaster wrote:
Like I said, unaware of the new Evangelical de facto political status. These are not new news stories, you have to take some responsibility. It's not all the good ship Trump.


I fail to see what Evangelical has to do with political opinions.

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