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Mar 18, 2018 18:56:13   #
Texcaster Loc: Queensland
 
Wrangler wrote:
I fail to see what Evangelical has to do with political opinions.


Well, that has had the Lord scratching his head ever ... "since Jerry Falwell’s Moral Majority sold the born-again movement to the Republican party in exchange for political power a generation ago, forging the religious right." AlterNet

https://www.alternet.org/belief/evangelical-christianity-facing-political-crisis-it-will-need-more-makeover

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Mar 18, 2018 19:40:48   #
EyeSawYou
 
Texcaster wrote:
Do you ever get tired of being a tool of the alt right Evangelicals? 80% of Evangelicals have been co opted by the alt right to make up the numbers for Bannon's movement. These poor folks would have no idea of their new de facto political status.


Do you ever get tired of being a mental case?

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Mar 18, 2018 19:45:31   #
Texcaster Loc: Queensland
 
EyeSawYou wrote:
Do you ever get tired of being a mental case?



Why don't you just crow "OWNED!!!" again?

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Mar 18, 2018 20:23:30   #
EyeSawYou
 
Texcaster wrote:
Why don't you just crow "OWNED!!!" again?


Yup, I rest my case that you are a mental case.lol

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Mar 18, 2018 20:43:37   #
boberic Loc: Quiet Corner, Connecticut. Ex long Islander
 
chrisscholbe wrote:
Another point of view.


There are many problems thatr exiSt today that the founders had not the slightdst idea about. If anyone of them suddenly appeared he would be incapable of understanding even something so common as a telephone

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Mar 18, 2018 21:40:30   #
Wrangler Loc: North Texas
 
boberic wrote:
There are many problems thatr exiSt today that the founders had not the slightdst idea about. If anyone of them suddenly appeared he would be incapable of understanding even something so common as a telephone


...or women v****g! I am pretty sure they didn't have a driver's license.

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Mar 18, 2018 22:06:33   #
SharpShooter Loc: NorCal
 
chrisscholbe wrote:
This accurately portrays MY position.


And if you're too stupid to realize that if there were NO guns, we wouldn't need ANY of that S**T!!!
That's pretty much MY position!!!
SS

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Mar 18, 2018 22:20:35   #
Texcaster Loc: Queensland
 
boberic wrote:
There are many problems thatr exiSt today that the founders had not the slightdst idea about. If anyone of them suddenly appeared he would be incapable of understanding even something so common as a telephone


... or (Trigger Warning!) Assault Rifles.

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Mar 19, 2018 12:27:37   #
thom w Loc: San Jose, CA
 
EyeSawYou wrote:
Here's one for you


Any evidence of this? Doctored videos don't count.

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Mar 19, 2018 12:28:47   #
thom w Loc: San Jose, CA
 
mwalsh wrote:
That is a pretty broad statement reflecting either innocent naivety or blatant disregard of reality.


It is too broad, but mostly true.

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Mar 19, 2018 12:30:10   #
thom w Loc: San Jose, CA
 
Wrangler wrote:
I fail to see what Evangelical has to do with political opinions.


They should be totally unrelated. Unfortunately they aren't.

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Mar 19, 2018 12:38:19   #
Wrangler Loc: North Texas
 
thom w wrote:
They should be totally unrelated. Unfortunately they aren't.


Are you saying evangelicals cannot or shouldn't have political opinions?

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Mar 19, 2018 20:35:21   #
thom w Loc: San Jose, CA
 
Wrangler wrote:
Are you saying evangelicals cannot or shouldn't have political opinions?


No, everyone has a right to an opinion, even a political one. I don't know your religious leanings and am only guessing as to your political leanings, but if you are super religious and have very right wing beliefs, you aren't what I was talking about. No one should be telling people how to v**e from the pulpit. Evangelicals are supporting Trump who would be up in arms if their neighbor or offspring behaved like he does. I believe that some religious leaders take advantage of the trust their "flock" have in them. Unless someone somewhere has some proof (there isn't any) I'm really tired of Christians saying they are the most discriminated against group in the US.

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Mar 19, 2018 21:36:48   #
Wrangler Loc: North Texas
 
thom w wrote:
No, everyone has a right to an opinion, even a political one. I don't know your religious leanings and am only guessing as to your political leanings, but if you are super religious and have very right wing beliefs, you aren't what I was talking about. No one should be telling people how to v**e from the pulpit. Evangelicals are supporting Trump who would be up in arms if their neighbor or offspring behaved like he does. I believe that some religious leaders take advantage of the trust their "flock" have in them. Unless someone somewhere has some proof (there isn't any) I'm really tired of Christians saying they are the most discriminated against group in the US.
No, everyone has a right to an opinion, even a pol... (show quote)


Thanks for your answer. I however do disagree with a couple of things you say. A minister has the same rights as anyone else. There are college professors who have openly supported a candidate when that prof has the power to assign grades.

I would say that Christians are discriminated against. I would not go as far as saying they are the most discriminated against. In a lot of schools God is not to be mentioned. Athletic teams are not allowed to have a pre contest prayer. There is time set aside for Muslim prayer but not for Christian prayer.

The Bible is banned in most public schools.

Speaking of President Trump's behavior, you left out the word "alleged".

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Mar 20, 2018 03:01:14   #
Steven Seward Loc: Cleveland, Ohio
 
thom w wrote:
No, everyone has a right to an opinion, even a political one. I don't know your religious leanings and am only guessing as to your political leanings, but if you are super religious and have very right wing beliefs, you aren't what I was talking about. No one should be telling people how to v**e from the pulpit. Evangelicals are supporting Trump who would be up in arms if their neighbor or offspring behaved like he does. I believe that some religious leaders take advantage of the trust their "flock" have in them. Unless someone somewhere has some proof (there isn't any) I'm really tired of Christians saying they are the most discriminated against group in the US.
No, everyone has a right to an opinion, even a pol... (show quote)

The only reason preachers are not allowed to talk about politics is because the IRS has deemed political speech to be incompatible with tax-exempt status. However, Black churches get away with it all the time, so much so that Democratic candidates often campaign right on church grounds with the endorsement of pastors. The IRS never enforces revoking the tax-exempt status of Black Churches. There is no law saying that a preacher can't advocate for a political candidate or cause, they just have to be willing to give up tax-exempt status.

I don't see anything wrong with a preacher from any religion talking politics unless his congregation doesn't want him to.

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