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Nov 4, 2017 05:11:14   #
toxdoc42
 
Personally, yes, still too much. I seem to prefer a more subtle approach. It is all in the eye of the beholder though, and you should be happy with what you like, not what others think.

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Nov 4, 2017 05:45:30   #
Apaflo Loc: Anchorage, Alaska
 
tdekany wrote:
I bet you will receive around zero examples from all the armchair experts rocking FF gear.


We can just look at virtually any link that you have ever suggested showed "great" photography to find what oversaturation looks like to most photographers.

A great example:

http://ljhollowayphotography.com

Almost all of her color images are "over saturated" by most standards. That is not uncommon and it sells very well in some markets (and not at all in others).

It is a matter of personal taste, or the genre of any given style of photography. Claims that one is more valid or correct than another demonstrate limited understanding of art.

An opposite example can be found in the Street Photography section where highly saturated color images are as rare as hen's teeth.

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Nov 4, 2017 06:00:24   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
SharpShooter wrote:
What is the proper way to use saturation...., locally, globally?
The biggest offenders are Sunset/Sunrise but every genre is represented. In many of the images posted it's pretty obvious that the photographer felt that oversaturation must be a good thing.
Some things are of unknown color so one can get away with a lot, but other things are KNOWN, like the color of peoples skin, most animals, and yes, even sunset/sunrise. We've all seen them, we know what they're supposed to look like.
How do you apply saturation and how much? Is saturation abused?
Feel free to post a before and after pic to show your point!!!
SS
What is the proper way to use saturation...., loca... (show quote)


It's a personal preference. Off hand, I'd say that most photos have stronger color saturation than Nature does, but if that's what people want, it their image and their photo processor. I shoot raw, so I always have to enhance images when I process them, and I make them look the way I want. Maybe I should take a picture of the scene so I know how it should look.

Of course, shooting JPEG and not processing is one solution, but then you have to consider how the user sets preferences in the camera.

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Nov 4, 2017 06:04:17   #
dpullum Loc: Tampa Florida
 
TriX wrote:
Completely agree. Over saturation may impress with the intense colors, but it doesn’t reflect reality.


???? What does reality have to do with it ????

I love both pastel softness and also kick in the fanny bold colors.

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Nov 4, 2017 06:36:54   #
Hank Radt
 
toxdoc42 wrote:
It is all in the eye of the beholder though, and you should be happy with what you like, not what others think.


I agree.

But I also find it instructive to learn from others, especially as I grow in both color (cut my teeth in B&W many years ago) and the brave new (to me) world of digital processing. Ideally, I'd take a class in color photography, but not much available here. So I use the internet a lot (as others have noted, lots of good instructional material there) and, when an opportunity presents itself, such as this post, try to avail myself of the insights of those more experienced. I'm old enough to accept well-intentioned and informed critique as I develop - my best teachers in my profession were brutally honest, and my skills improved as a result.

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Nov 4, 2017 06:42:18   #
jccash Loc: Longwood, Florida
 
SharpShooter wrote:
What is the proper way to use saturation...., locally, globally?
The biggest offenders are Sunset/Sunrise but every genre is represented. In many of the images posted it's pretty obvious that the photographer felt that oversaturation must be a good thing.
Some things are of unknown color so one can get away with a lot, but other things are KNOWN, like the color of peoples skin, most animals, and yes, even sunset/sunrise. We've all seen them, we know what they're supposed to look like.
How do you apply saturation and how much? Is saturation abused?
Feel free to post a before and after pic to show your point!!!
SS
What is the proper way to use saturation...., loca... (show quote)


I agree. Here is a picture of a Cape Buffalo that is over saturated:



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Nov 4, 2017 06:55:09   #
blue-ultra Loc: New Hampshire
 
SS319 wrote:
I reject reality!

We applaud Artists whose vision escapes reality and allows them to re-create on canvas what they see in their mind's eye, so why should we limit our photography to accurate reproductions of reality. Do you remember sitting on the shores of Lake Michigan watching a sunset with that favorite girl when you were a teenager? Carefully consider that image in your mind - were those grey clouds with a tinge of red orange and blue above a lake of grey-blue water, or do those colors burn with the flames of your romance and your thoughts of that night.

When we do a still life of a bowl of fruit, will we settle for that weak orange color of a Valencia orange, the thin red and green color of an apple, or do we saturate those images to increase the saliva flows and the desire to reach into that photograph and grab that fruit.

Couldn't agree with you more...

Study the B&W photographs of the depression and dust bowl eras, study how the photographers added noise and contrast to their images to convey the ultimate hardship of these people's condition. Should we not use saturation the same way.

My goal is never to reproduce reality, but to induce emotions, and saturation is but one tool available to produce that image.
I reject reality! br br We applaud Artists whose ... (show quote)



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Nov 4, 2017 06:58:42   #
MrBob Loc: lookout Mtn. NE Alabama
 
SS319 wrote:
I reject reality!

We applaud Artists whose vision escapes reality and allows them to re-create on canvas what they see in their mind's eye, so why should we limit our photography to accurate reproductions of reality. Do you remember sitting on the shores of Lake Michigan watching a sunset with that favorite girl when you were a teenager? Carefully consider that image in your mind - were those grey clouds with a tinge of red orange and blue above a lake of grey-blue water, or do those colors burn with the flames of your romance and your thoughts of that night.

When we do a still life of a bowl of fruit, will we settle for that weak orange color of a Valencia orange, the thin red and green color of an apple, or do we saturate those images to increase the saliva flows and the desire to reach into that photograph and grab that fruit.

Study the B&W photographs of the depression and dust bowl eras, study how the photographers added noise and contrast to their images to convey the ultimate hardship of these people's condition. Should we not use saturation the same way.

My goal is never to reproduce reality, but to induce emotions, and saturation is but one tool available to produce that image.
I reject reality! br br We applaud Artists whose ... (show quote)


Prob. One of the best posts I have read on this site...

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Nov 4, 2017 06:59:34   #
warzone
 
Photographs are an art form. As with all art, taste is subjective. Opinions vary and none are right or wrong. The beauty or lack thereof is in the eye of the be holder.

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Nov 4, 2017 07:08:39   #
Stan W. Loc: Tampa, Fl
 
SS319 wrote:
I reject reality!

We applaud Artists whose vision escapes reality and allows them to re-create on canvas what they see in their mind's eye, so why should we limit our photography to accurate reproductions of reality. Do you remember sitting on the shores of Lake Michigan watching a sunset with that favorite girl when you were a teenager? Carefully consider that image in your mind - were those grey clouds with a tinge of red orange and blue above a lake of grey-blue water, or do those colors burn with the flames of your romance and your thoughts of that night.

When we do a still life of a bowl of fruit, will we settle for that weak orange color of a Valencia orange, the thin red and green color of an apple, or do we saturate those images to increase the saliva flows and the desire to reach into that photograph and grab that fruit.

Study the B&W photographs of the depression and dust bowl eras, study how the photographers added noise and contrast to their images to convey the ultimate hardship of these people's condition. Should we not use saturation the same way.

My goal is never to reproduce reality, but to induce emotions, and saturation is but one tool available to produce that image.
I reject reality! br br We applaud Artists whose ... (show quote)



I agree completely.

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Nov 4, 2017 07:15:58   #
Notorious T.O.D. Loc: Harrisburg, North Carolina
 
To me it is a decision based on the look you like and what you want your image to be. What really gets me is portraits where the skin is smoothed to the point of looking like a china doll... Especially when I know the person is in their 50s.

Best,
Todd Ferguson

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Nov 4, 2017 07:19:16   #
nikonboy Loc: Apple Valley, MN and Pine Island, Florida
 
SS319 wrote:
I reject reality!

We applaud Artists whose vision escapes reality and allows them to re-create on canvas what they see in their mind's eye, so why should we limit our photography to accurate reproductions of reality. Do you remember sitting on the shores of Lake Michigan watching a sunset with that favorite girl when you were a teenager? Carefully consider that image in your mind - were those grey clouds with a tinge of red orange and blue above a lake of grey-blue water, or do those colors burn with the flames of your romance and your thoughts of that night.

When we do a still life of a bowl of fruit, will we settle for that weak orange color of a Valencia orange, the thin red and green color of an apple, or do we saturate those images to increase the saliva flows and the desire to reach into that photograph and grab that fruit.

Study the B&W photographs of the depression and dust bowl eras, study how the photographers added noise and contrast to their images to convey the ultimate hardship of these people's condition. Should we not use saturation the same way.

My goal is never to reproduce reality, but to induce emotions, and saturation is but one tool available to produce that image.
I reject reality! br br We applaud Artists who... (show quote)



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Nov 4, 2017 07:21:42   #
Toment Loc: FL, IL
 
De gustibus non disputandum est...

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Nov 4, 2017 07:21:54   #
DoyleY Loc: Worland, Wyoming
 
I am speaking mainly of sunsets and sunrises here where I agree, some posted pics jump out at you with the saturation and seem really to be too much and over the top but, it seems to be a trend that is liked by the public. They just can't seem to get enough of it no matter what most of us think. Of course at a certain point it does almost border on ridiculous. I'm not necessarily condoning it but take one of your own pictures, if you post to a group, and overdo it a little. People just seem to love it while most of us look at a pic and say it is way overdone. What difference does it make if the person is achieving what they were shooting for. Seems to be a trend that is not going to go away anytime soon.

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Nov 4, 2017 07:21:58   #
Brucej67 Loc: Cary, NC
 
I bring up vibrancy but never saturation.

SharpShooter wrote:
What is the proper way to use saturation...., locally, globally?
The biggest offenders are Sunset/Sunrise but every genre is represented. In many of the images posted it's pretty obvious that the photographer felt that oversaturation must be a good thing.
Some things are of unknown color so one can get away with a lot, but other things are KNOWN, like the color of peoples skin, most animals, and yes, even sunset/sunrise. We've all seen them, we know what they're supposed to look like.
How do you apply saturation and how much? Is saturation abused?
Feel free to post a before and after pic to show your point!!!
SS
What is the proper way to use saturation...., loca... (show quote)

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