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Oct 18, 2017 13:37:40   #
sandiegosteve Loc: San Diego, CA
 
Kmgw9v wrote:
My daughter recently loaded Lightroom into my newly acquired iPhone 7; the icon is there, but I haven't done anything with it,
Pardon my ignorance, but that mean I am now able to edit the Photos on the phone?


In short yes. Is it the best place for detailed editing? Not for me.


I choose photos to add to a LR Collection that I then select to sync. I've heard the LR syncs smart previews for the image.
Open the LR App, and you can do a lot of things. I like the flag and rate functionality. You also have edit. From edit, there are a lot of things you can do just like in the desktop version. All on your phone screen. Then, back on the desktop, you will see those edits.

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Oct 18, 2017 14:10:44   #
MrGNY Loc: New York
 
Yes you can edit your photos with LR on your iPhone. The screen is a bit small but yes it is doable.

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Oct 18, 2017 15:04:20   #
Kmgw9v Loc: Miami, Florida
 
sandiegosteve wrote:
In short yes. Is it the best place for detailed editing? Not for me.


I choose photos to add to a LR Collection that I then select to sync. I've heard the LR syncs smart previews for the image.
Open the LR App, and you can do a lot of things. I like the flag and rate functionality. You also have edit. From edit, there are a lot of things you can do just like in the desktop version. All on your phone screen. Then, back on the desktop, you will see those edits.


I will remain open-minded, but I believe I will probably not do much Lightroom processing on the iPhone. That will be done on the iMac.
Kinda like, I have never used the video on the 800E. The function is there, but not something that I am inclined to use.
But, things do evolve.

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Oct 18, 2017 16:50:43   #
JD750 Loc: SoCal
 
Kmgw9v wrote:
My daughter recently loaded Lightroom into my newly acquired iPhone 7; the icon is there, but I haven't done anything with it,
Pardon my ignorance, but that mean I am now able to edit the Photos on the phone?


If you have a cc subscription you can rate photos and do light editing on your iPhone7, and also the iPad, using LR Mobile.

To do that you have to create collections of photos and then sync them to LR mobile.

The photos you change will on the phone show the updates on your computer next time you open it. And vice versea. And It's non destructive so you can undo changes if you don't like them.

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Oct 18, 2017 16:53:33   #
Kmgw9v Loc: Miami, Florida
 
JD750 wrote:
If you have a cc subscription you can rate photos and do light editing on your iPhone7, and also the iPad, using LR Mobile.

To do that you have to create collections of photos and then sync them to LR mobile.

The photos you change will on the phone show the updates on your computer next time you open it. And vice versea. And It's non destructive so you can undo changes if you don't like them.


Thank you for the information. I will do it.

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Oct 18, 2017 18:42:09   #
wrangler5 Loc: Missouri
 
After thinking about this for a good six minutes, I'm having a hard time imagining the mental switch in organizing from (1) images in folders on my machine which I name with event names that are meaningful to me (Seattle Trip August 2017, Christmas 2016 at Grandma's, etc.) to (2) images stored in the cloud in a folder structure of the software's choosing, and (presumably) dependent on careful keywording at the outset in order to be retrieved reliably in the future. "Smart keywording" applied by the software sounds cool, but not every image taken at Niece's Wedding 2017 is going to have an element that's identifiable as the niece, or a wedding. It will be interesting to see how that aspect will work out in practice.

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Oct 18, 2017 19:03:42   #
sandiegosteve Loc: San Diego, CA
 
wrangler5 wrote:
After thinking about this for a good six minutes, I'm having a hard time imagining the mental switch in organizing from (1) images in folders on my machine which I name with event names that are meaningful to me (Seattle Trip August 2017, Christmas 2016 at Grandma's, etc.) to (2) images stored in the cloud in a folder structure of the software's choosing, and (presumably) dependent on careful keywording at the outset in order to be retrieved reliably in the future. "Smart keywording" applied by the software sounds cool, but not every image taken at Niece's Wedding 2017 is going to have an element that's identifiable as the niece, or a wedding. It will be interesting to see how that aspect will work out in practice.
After thinking about this for a good six minutes, ... (show quote)


I agree. I think LR CC is for the iPhone photographers and people who just want to upload the jpegs somewhere and see them on all devices. They editing is powerful, but you need organization if your are obsessive like many of us. No Tagging, minimal metadata and limited tools to really pick our pics from a shot.

The AI that does the tagging... is well... impressive. It can't replace how I tag events that I need at future times.

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Oct 18, 2017 19:18:30   #
jcwall396 Loc: Roswell, GA
 
I agree re: the tagging. I am obsessive about tagging and organization and I don't think there is a software package on the planet that could interpret what I'd like to see. Impressive, however, that they can do that. I agree with the other comments here - I can't edit squat on an iPhone screen. The older I get, the harder it is to see the 27" screen I have in front of me now!

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Oct 18, 2017 23:58:23   #
whwiden
 
jcwall396 wrote:
If I understand what I've read correctly, they are essentially doing away with Lightroom Classic (i.e., purchased software) and no more updates will be made. For those of you who do not want to use CC, are you looking into alternatives to Lightroom? If so, what are they?


I have started using darktable. I am starting to learn my way around the interface. It has many modules and options. It appears to me to be more powerful than lightroom in many respects. I am still faster using LR but I think that is mostly due to spending so much time with it. Darktable is free and I am running it on a linux system, though I understand it runs on Apple. There is an experimental Windows port, I think.

For travel, it runs on an inexpensive Lenovo 11 inch Yoga which would be too underpowered for LR. I am likely to stop using LR. I certainly will not pay for a subscription. And if I need to learn a new LR interface, I might as well spend the time learning darktable.

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Oct 19, 2017 01:28:46   #
Vanderpix Loc: New Jersey
 
As hobbyist soon to retire I do not need another monthly bill on a soon to be fixed income, so no subscription for me. I just downloaded the Beta of On1 Raw 2018 and it is similar enough to Lightroom with extra benefit of layers that I think I will eventually migrate over to that. By the way I have been using LR for about 9 years. The initial cost in 2008 was $300 with 3 upgrades the total cost over 9 years is $570. If I had a subscription over those 9 years it would come to about $1100!

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Oct 19, 2017 06:08:02   #
JaiGieEse Loc: Foxworth, MS
 
More reliance on cloud computing. More and more emphasis on streaming video. Looks as if someone needs to convince the ISP's to eliminate data caps and charges for usage beyond those caps.

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Oct 19, 2017 08:31:30   #
jcwall396 Loc: Roswell, GA
 
Vanderpix wrote:
As hobbyist soon to retire I do not need another monthly bill on a soon to be fixed income, so no subscription for me. I just downloaded the Beta of On1 Raw 2018 and it is similar enough to Lightroom with extra benefit of layers that I think I will eventually migrate over to that. By the way I have been using LR for about 9 years. The initial cost in 2008 was $300 with 3 upgrades the total cost over 9 years is $570. If I had a subscription over those 9 years it would come to about $1100!


I have used various versions of On1 over the years and love the program. I'm on 2017 and will upgrade to 2018 shortly, but I've always used it as a plugin. What do you think of their key wording and file management functionality? Is it as good as LR or close to it?

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Oct 19, 2017 08:35:34   #
Kmgw9v Loc: Miami, Florida
 
jcwall396 wrote:
I have used various versions of On1 over the years and love the program. I'm on 2017 and will upgrade to 2018 shortly, but I've always used it as a plugin. What do you think of their key wording and file management functionality? Is it as good as LR or close to it?


I like ON1 too.
File management is done in Lightroom. I import into Lightroom, make some adjustments, and then usually take the image to ON1 for further processing.

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Oct 19, 2017 08:42:54   #
jcwall396 Loc: Roswell, GA
 
Kmgw9v wrote:
I like ON1 too.
File management is done in Lightroom. I import into Lightroom, make some adjustments, and then usually take the image to ON1 for further processing.


That's how I'm using it currently. Just wondering if I decide to ditch Lightroom altogether if On1 would make a good alternative option. Since I have it, I guess I need to kick the tires and test it out!

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Oct 19, 2017 09:51:31   #
Vanderpix Loc: New Jersey
 
jcwall396 wrote:
I have used various versions of On1 over the years and love the program. I'm on 2017 and will upgrade to 2018 shortly, but I've always used it as a plugin. What do you think of their key wording and file management functionality? Is it as good as LR or close to it?

I have used Lightroom for about 9 years but On1 for only about 90 minutes so it is hard to give a comprehensive evaluation. It is very similar but I am still getting used to it. I really do think they are on the right track and could be a viable alternative. I will use LR6 for as long as it works but might slowly migrate over ON1 if it stays non subscription

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