Desert Gecko Loc: desert southwest, USA

Why, chaman? You've missed the point entirely, and why post something irrelevant only to argue about it? Why don't you challenge Peterff to an argument? That belligerent fellow jumped in here guns blazing and without any provocation started calling people names, acting like a real jerk -- again. Apparantly, he's still sore over a discussion in another thread weeks ago wherein he kept on and on like the Energizer bunny, just begging for anyone to argue with his sorry soul.

Peterff go where someone gives a damn what you have to say. Maybe a Disney Channel or Nickelodeon blog would better suit you.

Cholly, are you with me in that you don't know whether to laugh at Peterff or pity him?

chaman

Blah, blah....offer still open.

CHOLLY Loc: THE FLORIDA PANHANDLE!

DG, I just ignore people who have NO desire to be civil or constructively add to the discourse.

My daddy was a simple countryboy but he was filled with wisdom. He use to say "don't let other people make you ruin your blessing" and "Fools love company. Don't let foolish people turn you into a fool."

I try my best to live and let live. He also used to say "if you can't say anything nice about a person, just don't say anything." I'll admit that I've failed on that count... but I keep the negative comments to a minimum. So to answer your question...................................

Desert Gecko Loc: desert southwest, USA

Then go start a thread for it, chaman. As I said, it's not relevant to this topic.

Peterff Loc: O'er The Hills and Far Away, in Themyscira.

So Cholly, you don't seem to recognize your own troll like behavior. You are very clearly extremely biased in your posts about Sony, you make negative commentary about other vendors that have a stronger market technology base and product base than Sony - with the possible exception of sensor technology which is only one aspect of a camera system - you even resort to open derogatory attacks on other vendors' announcements. Of course I'm going to respond to someone that behaves like a troll and a shill which you have been doing for years now.

You do not live up to your father's standards unfortunately. I recently suggested that you attempt to deliver an objective and impartial analysis of the digital camera market and vendors, you are clearly smart enough, yet you continue to play the Sony shill, and I'm not sure of your definition of 'minimum' but it's a pretty low standard by all appearances.

Perhaps you should consider living up to your father's advice.

Peterff Loc: O'er The Hills and Far Away, in Themyscira.

Gecko, call me a jerk if you wish, I don't care. I'm not looking for an argument, I'm calling Cholly on his persistent troll like and shill like behavior and his negative commentary about any vendor other than Sony. Sony makes good equipment, it makes excellent sensors, but it is nowhere near the apex of excellence that Cholly attempts to portray. He appears to be unable to take a balanced perspective.

You can align yourself with Cholly if you wish, or you can take a more balanced and reasonable perspective for yourself.

If Cholly was able or willing to take a more moderated approach and to give credit to other vendors - he may even think that he does - then he wouldn't get the push back that he gets from a fair sample of the UHH community. I'm just willing to identify his behavior for what it is. No wonder he doesn't like cameras with mirrors!

chaman

It is!All these threads applauding and talking about how better the body is, how it kills DSLRs, etc. Well show me how better Sony is. Simple. Even the previous models are better in almost every way, right? Well lets see those awesome images you are making.

You know why you evade the offer? Because that's where all your arguments dissolve and go away. Because you are then forced to face the reality of things. Your exaggerations and superlatives are suddenly left in the dust. Its relevant, so relevant you prefer to not even go there. There is no need to start any thread because even if I do you will go hide in your delusional world. You all love to talk about how many focus points it has, the "need" for 4k etc but in reality most of you dont even understand how apply that to an image. Oh, but you love to talk about and even mock other cameras? I guess that fulfills a need created by your obvious shortcomings when it comes to walk the walk.

Offer still open. Here. No need for another thread. Lets see in practice how all those advantages produce these super images.