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May 25, 2017 13:15:48   #
bsprague Loc: Lacey, WA, USA
 
Paul Buckhiester wrote:
I think you are being a bit shortsighted. The Cc subscription includes syncing w Adobe mobile apps, a powerfully to convenient capability. I also use CC store my catalog backups. Sharing collections w clients and friends/family is also immensely helpful. LR's connectivity w Blurb and social sites is seemless. Plus adobe throws in a free gallery website. I can't imagine a better deal. I just hope they don't increase the price.


"I just hope they don't increase the price."

Would you like a 30% discount? It is pretty easy!

Even if Adobe doubles the price, I would stay with it. The current monthly price is what I used to pay for a single roll of film with processing. Doubled would be two rolls of film. When I built a darkroom, it cost a few thousand to get it going. In a good month, I would go through several rolls of film. Lightroom with cheap scanner and cheap printer outperforms my old darkroom a hundred fold.

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May 25, 2017 13:40:52   #
Mac Loc: Pittsburgh, Philadelphia now Hernando Co. Fl.
 
Glasgow wrote:
Does anyone know of any good software that's free or a one time fee, I don't like this monthly or yearly payment software


If you look in the Post Processing forum section http://www.uglyhedgehog.com/s-116-1.html you will find a listing of free programs. Inexpensive paid programs are Affinity Photo, and Macphun has just announced that Luminar will be available for Windows.

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May 25, 2017 14:26:37   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
amfoto1 wrote:
Not true.

Yes, one of the relatively minor limitations of Elements is that it's an "8-bit program". And, yes, it's best to "work" with images in 16-bit mode. HOWEVER.... Elements actually does work in 16-bit whenever you use it to handle RAW conversions, same as you would need to do with any other editing program (in-camera JPEGs are already reduced to 8-bit). The Adobe Camera Raw "engine" built into Elements is the same as what's used in Lightroom and Photoshop. It's only a few of the specialty filters and such that aren't available in Elements until after the image has been saved as an 8-bit JPEG. Really no biggie.

For most people it doesn't matter that Elements is only able to output/save 8-bit JPEG (and similar) files, because those are more than adequate and even what's wanted for the vast majority of purposes. Typically only commercial, pro uses might call for 16-bit TIFFs (and similar). In fact, many printing services require 8-bit JPEGs. Even if you were to use a 16-bit TIFF to make a print yourself, assuming your photo quality inkjet can handle it, there will be no visible difference in the final print. The human eye cannot differentiate between 8-bit and 16-bit. Likely the only difference would be that it takes a lot longer to print.
Not true. br br Yes, one of the relatively minor... (show quote)


There's an "image rescue" process that works best in 16 bits. It is used to make "out of bounds" adjustments to JPEGs that have to be salvaged from severe underexposure.

Open JPEG image in sRGB color space
Convert to 16-bit TIFF or PSD
Convert to ProPhoto RGB color space
Adjust as best you can
Resize/crop as needed
Reduce noise as needed
Sharpen as needed
Convert back to 8-bits
Convert to sRGB
Save as JPEG.

This helps a lot by minimizing stair-stepping and posterization artifacts. The worse the original, the better the improvement over editing in 8-bits.

We had to do this in our lab, when a customer would cry, "Help!" with recovery of a poor quality image he could not re-photograph. It won't work miracles, but it does help, sometimes acceptably enough.

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May 25, 2017 15:40:09   #
Glasgow
 
Paul, what are you using?

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May 25, 2017 16:29:45   #
photoman022 Loc: Manchester CT USA
 
I'm a PSE 14 user and am very happy with it.

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May 25, 2017 18:28:24   #
Bob Yankle Loc: Burlington, NC
 
I wrote a tutorial on a free piece of software called Paint.Net. It creates layers and will call other filters. All of the filters used to enhance the photo were absolutely free.

The tutorial can be seen at http://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-408811-1.html#6876950

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May 25, 2017 18:46:10   #
jeep_daddy Loc: Prescott AZ
 
DaveyDitzer wrote:
I do not mean to hijack this topic, but I am just a beginner at post processing. I have Photoshop Elements 12. Is there any good reason to upgrade to PS15? Now, my PSE 12 can't handle RAW so that may be reason enough; but I would like UHH opinions and advice. thank you and sorry if my question is out of line here.


Every newer version of PSE has improvements. You can easily google it and see for yourself. Some people buy every new version as soon as it comes out, some people skip a version to upgrade. That's what I usually did unless I got a new camera body and it's raw files weren't supported. I have a feeling that is what is wrong with your version 12. Upgrade to the latest version and you shouldn't have any problems with your raw files.

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May 25, 2017 18:47:45   #
AlohaBob Loc: Los Angeles, CA
 
Do you currently use LightZone? I tried it out and liked it, but it seemed like it was abandoned and going nowhere.

rmalarz wrote:
There's a couple of good ones out there.

Light Zone - http://www.lightzoneproject.org


If you are using a Mac:

http://www.hasselblad.com/software/phocus

Both are free and quite capable of some very good editing.
--Bob

http://www.hasselblad.com/software/phocus

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May 25, 2017 19:10:52   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
DaveyDitzer wrote:
I do not mean to hijack this topic, but I am just a beginner at post processing. I have Photoshop Elements 12. Is there any good reason to upgrade to PS15? Now, my PSE 12 can't handle RAW so that may be reason enough; but I would like UHH opinions and advice. thank you and sorry if my question is out of line here.


I use Canon DPP for raw editing, save as JPEG, and elements 14 for any other tweaking not available with DPP. I looked at the list of what 15 does, and personally, I see no reason for me to upgrade from v14 to v15. (I used v7 for years before I got 14!) You have to figure out if you need/want the changes in any upgrade, are they worth it.

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May 25, 2017 20:29:03   #
Sinewsworn Loc: Port Orchard, WA
 
pkgoldberg wrote:
Check out : https://macphun.com/luminar Free trial period and only $69.



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May 26, 2017 00:16:48   #
royb_36-cox.net Loc: Phoenix
 
bobmcculloch wrote:
Paint Shop Pro by Corel! all you need


Corel AfterShot 3 Pro is a LR like first level processing low cost addition to PaintShot Pro (I paid $30 for it).

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May 26, 2017 07:51:44   #
SpyderJan Loc: New Smyrna Beach. FL
 
Glasgow wrote:
Does anyone know of any good software that's free or a one time fee, I don't like this monthly or yearly payment software


I am guessing that you are talking about a Photoshop alternative. I just downloaded the 30 day trial of Corel Paintshop X9. They have 2 versions, but both are reasonable, and look good. I used Paintshop years ago and I always liked it.

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May 26, 2017 08:15:53   #
Banditsdad Loc: From NYC, live in Nashville, TN now
 
If you are looking for something that is similar to photoshop, then try Gimp. Here is a review: http://www.techradar.com/reviews/gimp

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