fotografz wrote:
One of the coolest things demonstrating optical compression is the use of it as a motion picture technique ... where you can see it happen right before your eyes.
I believe it was Alfred Hitchcock that first used it in a major motion picture as a psychological effect in the film "Rebecca" ... when Rebecca suddenly realizes something terrifyingly profound, the lens zooms to a longer focal length while the camera dollies back to keep her the same size ... the visual result is that the background looms up behind her ... a very unsettling sort of effect. Can you imagine the precision required on the part of the camera operators?
Depth of Field can easily be demonstrated even without a lens. Sometimes when I forget my glasses and have to see something small ... I make small circle with my thumb and finger and look closely through it ... effectively "stopping down" my finger aperture to make the object I'm viewing sharper. You can do the same thing with a piece of cardboard and a nail hole. The smaller the hole the more Depth of Field. However, the smaller the hole the more light you need coming through it ... or in the case of photography the longer the shutter has to stay open to record the image.
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Thanks fotografz
Great examples provided in aid of clarifying the depth-of-field vs compression question
Your explanation of the use of depth-of-field provided by a small aperture in place of the often misplaced reading glasses brought back the memory of making wooden snow goggles as a juvenile craft project. These wooden goggles were made of a piece or two joined pieces of wood which were carefully shaped and smoothed to fit over the eyes with a dished out section over each eye. A narrow vision slit cut through each eyepiece was intended to limit the amount of light which struck the eye, reducing the risk of snow-blindness. As a myopic four-eyed cub scout, I was surprised to find that the view through the narrow slit was very nearly as clear as the corrected version of the world seen through my spectacles.
ballsafire wrote:
Architect -- your concise answer was on the mark although I had to visualize what "The poles in the far distance if cropped out and enlarged would look the same as the telephoto shot" and I finally grasped the concept. Thanks for your help!
You are most welcome.
I teach photography to novices and teach the joy of the hobby and basic concepts. If they want to get into all the math and esoterics I encourage it but want to develop the enjoyment of photos and basic methods of capturing them again in a fun and enjoyable manner.
I have gone to classes where the instructor gets bogged down in all kinds of math and ratios and things that make the novices eyes roll and they lose interest.
Aperture for example is a pie. Cut the pie in half which is 1/2 is a big piece or opening, f2. Cut a pie in 8 parts 1/8 or f8 and the opening is small so the smaller the f number the bigger the piece of pie or lens opening etc. Obviously there is a bit more but the novice easily grasps the concept and the basis is set.
dpullum wrote:
I knew what was meant, but that does not guarantee that others did. The addition of the words, prospective or visual distance, before the word compression would have made it clear to all. OR the question should have been a simple explanation of the effect after the poster had done a simple google search for "visual compression by telephoto lenses" Google would have responded using the words "prospective distortion." Perspective distortion is a bit more complicated than simple apparent distance between....see:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perspective_distortion_(photography)
Looking at your contribution on Toilet Paper, you were brief and complete.... adding a smile regarding unruliness of cats. I am happy that I have been using the correct unroll direction except when I have had unruly cats.
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I learned to KISS in the service and I do it in photography. Keep it fun and easily understood as a general concept.
Architect1776 wrote:
You are most welcome.
I teach photography to novices and teach the joy of the hobby and basic concepts. If they want to get into all the math and esoterics I encourage it but want to develop the enjoyment of photos and basic methods of capturing them again in a fun and enjoyable manner.
I have gone to classes where the instructor gets bogged down in all kinds of math and ratios and things that make the novices eyes roll and they lose interest.
Aperture for example is a pie. Cut the pie in half which is 1/2 is a big piece or opening, f2. Cut a pie in 8 parts 1/8 or f8 and the opening is small so the smaller the f number the bigger the piece of pie or lens opening etc. Obviously there is a bit more but the novice easily grasps the concept and the basis is set.
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I am a retired teacher too -- and I like your example of teaching in a meaningful way -"Aperture for example is a pie". Perfect!
But they are such an inept band. However, Led Zep or the Dixie Dregs...
Kiron Kid wrote:
But they are such an inept band. However, Led Zep or the Dixie Dregs...
You take the cake!! LOL! KISS in photography, I learned, is an acronym meaning Keep It Simple Shutterbug or something like that…I first seen it used by Ken Caleno located in Carterton, New Zealand. He made his photography course available to us on the Ugly Hedgegog Dec. 20,2013. He was using "nekon" as his screen name on this forum. Brings back memories when I was teaching Jr. high -- a kid had in his hand a KISS album and was growing long hair -- I told him along with his long hair he was going to grow big breasts and I think he looked at me kind of funny! Thanks for the memory!
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