The Old Russian Cold War Is Upon the USA Again (Page 2): Whoopee doo, they can build two or three subs and maybe one or two carriers. How is that supposed to compete with the numerous...

Earworms Loc: Sacramento, California

Whoopee doo, they can build two or three subs and maybe one or two carriers. How is that supposed to compete with the numerous submarines and carriers of the U.S. fleet?

Popeye Loc: LifIno

Just thought it might be of general interest to go along with the original topic.

mas24 Loc: Southern CA

The U.S. has about 12-13 Active Aircraft Carriers. The US has advanced submarines with nuclear weapons too. The Cold War is not a real war, but a threat of one. One mistake can be catastrophic. Remember the Cuban Crisis, October 1962. Diplomacy prevented an all out naval war with the USSR. And a possible nuclear war.

MrBob Loc: lookout Mtn. NE Alabama

mas24 wrote:

The old Soviet Union, was dismantled by 1992. Now the Cold War is back, and China may soon be a major problem in the South China Sea. Russia and China had joint Naval Operations recently in the South China Sea. Both countries are launching new, stealthy, modern type Submarines to control the Seas. http://thediplomat.com/2016/12/russia-to-launch-2-nuclear-subs-in-2017/

I think the major world powers understand the policy of MAD. Given that, the real question is how does any nation extricate itself from its Military Industrial complex without destroying its economy? It would take a very bold and courageous world leader to take a leap of faith and at least take baby steps to transition that workforce to humanitarian endeavors. Maybe a little optimistic ? Where has continued military buildup gotten anybody, and where is it going to lead...

rpavich Loc: West Virginia

mas24 wrote:

The old Soviet Union, was dismantled by 1992. Now the Cold War is back, and China may soon be a major problem in the South China Sea. Russia and China had joint Naval Operations recently in the South China Sea. Both countries are launching new, stealthy, modern type Submarines to control the Seas. http://thediplomat.com/2016/12/russia-to-launch-2-nuclear-subs-in-2017/

Awesome...that's great for the economy.

Let's get back to being a strong nation able to defend ourselves.

muggins88 Loc: Inverness, Florida

stevebein wrote:

I would prefer talking about depth of field, apert... (show quote)

Amen. I see too much of this blasting at me from all angles.

jaymatt Loc: Alexandria, Indiana

G Brown wrote:

All it need is an idiot in charge - Odd how worldwide it seems idiots are increasingly in charge!

Fortunately, we are getting rid of our idiot in charge in just a few days.

FrankR Loc: NYC

MrBob wrote:

I think the major world powers understand the policy of MAD. Given that, the real question is how does any nation extricate itself from its Military Industrial complex without destroying its economy? It would take a very bold and courageous world leader to take a leap of faith and at least take baby steps to transition that workforce to humanitarian endeavors. Maybe a little optimistic ? Where has continued military buildup gotten anybody, and where is it going to lead...

Your opening sentence holds true to a point. As of 20Jan, it may no longer be applicable. On that date, moving into our White House is a damn fool who asked three times in an hour, "If we have nuclear weapons, why can't we use them?"

toma1940 Loc: Silicon Valley, CA

Less than 2% of the US population volunteer for military service, the equipment is state-of-the-art. Congress has withheld funding and the country has been at war since 2003

blue-ultra wrote:

Meanwhile back in the USA our military has been decimated by the current administration. We're spending upwards of $4B per submarine, $85B for new fighters and that's just 2 programs. We're going broke on Defense spending - and it's not time for another Red October. Blame the "administration", but remember Congress provides the money and that drives the spending.

Time for another hunt for "Red October".

toma1940 Loc: Silicon Valley, CA

And that damm fool has NO idea what the consequences of a nuclear weapon. Nuclear weapons are designed to wipe out innocent children and civilians, not just the military.

FrankR wrote:

Your opening sentence holds true to a point. As of 20Jan, it may no longer be applicable. On that date, moving into our White House is a damn fool who asked three times in an hour, "If we have nuclear weapons, why can't we use them?"

usken65

G Brown wrote:

All it need is an idiot in charge - Odd how worldwide it seems idiots are increasingly in charge!

That is because in our infinite wisdom we have defeated Darwinism.

Bultaco Loc: Aiken, SC

toma1940 wrote:

Less than 2% of the US population volunteer for military service, the equipment is state-of-the-art. Congress has withheld funding and the country has been at war since 2003

You've never been in the military, Special ops, communications are state of the, art but equipment from Nam is still used in many units like the NG the get old equipment turned in by the reg army. Don't ever believe anything in the press.

Fat Gregory Loc: Southern New Jersey

Thank President Clinton for allowing our very top secret "quiet propeller" technology, winding up in China's possession... another Clinton service to America!

hotshot1 Loc: Bayou Teche Area

mas24 wrote:

The old Soviet Union, was dismantled by 1992. Now the Cold War is back, and China may soon be a major problem in the South China Sea. Russia and China had joint Naval Operations recently in the South China Sea. Both countries are launching new, stealthy, modern type Submarines to control the Seas. http://thediplomat.com/2016/12/russia-to-launch-2-nuclear-subs-in-2017/

Trump and Putin is much less dangerous than obama and Putin.
obama is crapping on everyone in his path on his way out.

obama has to be one of the worst presidents in the history of the world. He does have record for creating the most debt with his vacations on the taxpayer dime. I'm surprised he hasn't collapsed us yet !

Fat Gregory Loc: Southern New Jersey

I was told by a friend who was an executive at GD Electric Boat, that by the year 2019, China will have more, newer and superior submarines than we have... as one of the Crown Jewels in our Navy, anyone else worried???
US 75. China 70. Russia 65 and China is building. We are pitting our 2 builders against each other for our next boat... likely only 1 builder will survive!

Feel safer now?