The Old Russian Cold War Is Upon the USA Again
Jan 11, 2017 10:16:40 #
mas24
Loc: Southern CA
The old Soviet Union, was dismantled by 1992. Now the Cold War is back, and China may soon be a major problem in the South China Sea. Russia and China had joint Naval Operations recently in the South China Sea. Both countries are launching new, stealthy, modern type Submarines to control the Seas. http://thediplomat.com/2016/12/russia-to-launch-2-nuclear-subs-in-2017/
Jan 11, 2017 10:29:00 #
mas24 wrote:
The old Soviet Union, was dismantled by 1992. Now the Cold War is /
Someone just told me that the original cold war was Harry Truman's fault: If he had just entered us into a peaceful economic competition with the USSR we wouldn't have had the cold war. He's right. Europe would ALL have fallen under the USSR's control and ALL of southeastern Asia would have fallen under China's. To people who believe this crap, dear Uncle Joe (Stalin) and Mao were reasonable, benevolent leaders. I was around at that early time and knew the reality of the situation. And now we have dear, sweet Vladimir (Putin) looking at us. The friend of presidents and the USA. Much less China who would like to crush us economically and militarily.
Perhaps UHH is not the place for such discussions. But the question was raised.
Jan 11, 2017 10:34:17 #
Meanwhile back in the USA our military has been decimated by the current administration.
Time for another hunt for "Red October".
Time for another hunt for "Red October".
Jan 11, 2017 10:51:12 #
blue-ultra wrote:
Meanwhile back in the USA our military has been decimated by the current administration.
Just not true. We've tried to extricate ourselves from the insane messes we made in Iraq and Afghanistan. Military budget still tremendously huge.
Jan 11, 2017 11:01:07 #
I would prefer talking about depth of field, apertures, shutter speeds IQ and not getting into the stupidity of the ongoing Soap Opera of my party is better than your party, our strategy in going in or getting out is the best. If you want to talk politics, there are places where people are interested and, in my opinion, this is not the proper forum. By the way, for those interested, the campaign SOAP OPERA, is over, now for the second season which is ongoing with the same political hacks and talking heads.
Jan 11, 2017 11:07:18 #
stevebein wrote:
I would prefer talking about depth of field, apert... (show quote)
I do agree but wrong headedness as I see it should be responded to. Politics is now, in my judgment, just a distraction from the reality that the very rich and huge corporations are the REAL government. I'll not eliminate myself from this "debate."
Jan 11, 2017 11:07:55 #
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Jan 11, 2017 11:10:44 #
mas24 wrote:
The old Soviet Union, was dismantled by 1992. Now the Cold War is back, and China may soon be a major problem in the South China Sea. Russia and China had joint Naval Operations recently in the South China Sea. Both countries are launching new, stealthy, modern type Submarines to control the Seas. http://thediplomat.com/2016/12/russia-to-launch-2-nuclear-subs-in-2017/
The new diesel submarines are cheap and very quiet. In a somewhat recent war game, a French sub defeated U. S. defenses - not sure what kind of sub.
Jan 11, 2017 11:13:47 #
blue-ultra wrote:
Meanwhile back in the USA our military has been decimated by the current administration.
Time for another hunt for "Red October".
Time for another hunt for "Red October".
Obviously, we're not spending enough on our military.
https://www.nationalpriorities.org/campaigns/us-military-spending-vs-world/
Fortunately, Trump has said that he wants to increase our nuclear stockpile because 7,100 nuclear weapons isn't nearly enough.
https://www.armscontrol.org/factsheets/Nuclearweaponswhohaswhat
Jan 11, 2017 11:43:33 #
Jan 11, 2017 12:24:11 #
mas24
Loc: Southern CA
jerryc41 wrote:
The new diesel submarines are cheap and very quiet. In a somewhat recent war game, a French sub defeated U. S. defenses - not sure what kind of sub.
I remember you mentioning that a while back on another Post. Stealth technology is going to make it difficult to locate those new diesel Submarines. And that is not good. These new Russian Submarines are equipped with nuclear weapons and Stealth Technology. And more are coming.
Jan 11, 2017 12:44:19 #
All it need is an idiot in charge - Odd how worldwide it seems idiots are increasingly in charge!
Jan 11, 2017 14:54:26 #
Russia also wants to build a new super carrier
http://nationalinterest.org/blog/the-buzz/russia-had-plans-build-super-aircraft-carrier-ran-super-big-19007
http://nationalinterest.org/blog/the-buzz/russia-had-plans-build-super-aircraft-carrier-ran-super-big-19007
Jan 11, 2017 15:49:11 #
revhen wrote:
Just not true. We've tried to extricate ourselves from the insane messes we made in Iraq and Afghanistan. Military budget still tremendously huge.
gly
Our Army and Navy are smaller than any time since before WWI. Every time we've let ourselves grow weak enough that some dictator thought he could knock us off we've been drawn into terrible wars. It's a fact. We need to be so strong no one would dare challenge us. That will keep us out of conflict.
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