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Dec 11, 2016 07:00:45   #
markie1425 Loc: Bryn Mawr, PA
 
I searched UHH unsuccessfully for "freeze" or "freezing" before posting this question.

I consider myself to be a street photographer and never leave home without a camera. Camera portability and image quality are most important to me. In the days of film, I had multiple bodies and lenses and even a Rolleiflex, but moved past that decades ago. My largest body is the T2i and I use that only to photograph high school reunions. Otherwise, my daily carries are either the Canon S95 and the Panasonic Lumix DMC-LX100.

Although I'm very cavalier about using medicines or food way beyond their expiration dates (unless they fail the nose test), I'm reluctant to carry a camera when the mercury tumbles below the manufacturers' recommendations about minimum ambient usage temperatures. I don't know what damage or failure-to-operate situations would/could happen and whether any resulting damage might be permanent.

I've considered buying a "tough" camera that might be useful down to 14°F, but think that those pictures might be less than satisfactory. Furthermore, it gets colder than 14°F in Philadelphia, although some of you might laugh at such relatively mild conditions.

So, my question is how do others take pictures in frigid conditions and are my fears of camera damage valid?

Thank you.
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Dec 11, 2016 07:09:49   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
markie1425 wrote:
I searched UHH unsuccessfully for "freeze" or "freezing" before posting this question.

I consider myself to be a street photographer and never leave home without a camera. Camera portability and image quality are most important to me. In the days of film, I had multiple bodies and lenses and even a Rolleiflex, but moved past that decades ago. My largest body is the T2i and I use that only to photograph high school reunions. Otherwise, my daily carries are either the Canon S95 and the Panasonic Lumix DMC-LX100.

Although I'm very cavalier about using medicines or food way beyond their expiration dates (unless they fail the nose test), I'm reluctant to carry a camera when the mercury tumbles below the manufacturers' recommendations about minimum ambient usage temperatures. I don't know what damage or failure-to-operate situations would/could happen and whether any resulting damage might be permanent.

I've considered buying a "tough" camera that might be useful down to 14°F, but think that those pictures might be less than satisfactory. Furthermore, it gets colder than 14°F in Philadelphia, although some of you might laugh at such relatively mild conditions.

So, my question is how do others take pictures in frigid conditions and are my fears of camera damage valid?

Thank you.
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Not a problem. Just use common sense. When I'm shooting cold weather, (It's 15° F here now), I'll have the camera under my coat between shooting sessions, but I doubt that's even necessary. You can bet that all the people in that boat below will be taking pictures.

http://digital-photography-school.com/how-to-take-care-of-your-camera-in-cold-weather/

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Dec 11, 2016 07:29:10   #
markie1425 Loc: Bryn Mawr, PA
 
Thank you.

Good article. I bookmarked it.
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Dec 11, 2016 07:30:55   #
speters Loc: Grangeville/Idaho
 
markie1425 wrote:
I searched UHH unsuccessfully for "freeze" or "freezing" before posting this question.

I consider myself to be a street photographer and never leave home without a camera. Camera portability and image quality are most important to me. In the days of film, I had multiple bodies and lenses and even a Rolleiflex, but moved past that decades ago. My largest body is the T2i and I use that only to photograph high school reunions. Otherwise, my daily carries are either the Canon S95 and the Panasonic Lumix DMC-LX100.

Although I'm very cavalier about using medicines or food way beyond their expiration dates (unless they fail the nose test), I'm reluctant to carry a camera when the mercury tumbles below the manufacturers' recommendations about minimum ambient usage temperatures. I don't know what damage or failure-to-operate situations would/could happen and whether any resulting damage might be permanent.

I've considered buying a "tough" camera that might be useful down to 14°F, but think that those pictures might be less than satisfactory. Furthermore, it gets colder than 14°F in Philadelphia, although some of you might laugh at such relatively mild conditions.

So, my question is how do others take pictures in frigid conditions and are my fears of camera damage valid?

Thank you.

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I'm at times concerned as well, but so far (knock on wood) I have not witnessed/caused any damage to any of my cameras and I had them out and opereating in weather down to 37 below zero (that was the coldest, even though the wind was blowing on top of that at blizzard speed, so the windchill temp was a lot more yet!

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Dec 11, 2016 08:23:12   #
Apaflo Loc: Anchorage, Alaska
 
markie1425 wrote:
So, my question is how do others take pictures in frigid conditions and are my fears of camera damage valid?

It's pretty much a case of if you survive so will the camera.

Cold can make a camera stop working (batteries and LCD's) but they aren't damaged and recover well when warmed up.

I've never seen anyone lose a camera due to cold temperatures. I live in the coldest place in the US...

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Dec 11, 2016 08:34:58   #
Marionsho Loc: Kansas
 
jerryc41 wrote:
Not a problem. Just use common sense. When I'm shooting cold weather, (It's 15° F here now), I'll have the camera under my coat between shooting sessions, but I doubt that's even necessary. You can bet that all the people in that boat below will be taking pictures.

http://digital-photography-school.com/how-to-take-care-of-your-camera-in-cold-weather/

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Thanks Jerry. I really think this is a good reason to use a clear filter over your lens. If it gets fogged up from your breath, or in any way, you can simply remove it and you're back in business.

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Dec 11, 2016 08:37:21   #
Marionsho Loc: Kansas
 
speters wrote:
I'm at times concerned as well, but so far (knock on wood) I have not witnessed/caused any damage to any of my cameras and I had them out and opereating in weather down to 37 below zero (that was the coldest, even though the wind was blowing on top of that at blizzard speed, so the windchill temp was a lot more yet!


Ouch.
I hope it was fun, and/or worth it.

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Dec 11, 2016 08:46:56   #
LFingar Loc: Claverack, NY
 
Those manufacture's temp limits are actually "cover the corporate butt" figures. Any digital camera can survive undamaged at temps well below the 32 degrees usually mentioned in factory specs, and while few of us are out shooting in temps over 120 degrees the cameras can withstand higher temps without problems. Batteries are probably the most sensitive component, especially in the cold where they will lose capacity. Odds are that you will malfunction from the cold before your camera will!

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Dec 11, 2016 08:49:25   #
LFingar Loc: Claverack, NY
 
speters wrote:
I'm at times concerned as well, but so far (knock on wood) I have not witnessed/caused any damage to any of my cameras and I had them out and opereating in weather down to 37 below zero (that was the coldest, even though the wind was blowing on top of that at blizzard speed, so the windchill temp was a lot more yet!


Windchill will affect you, not your camera. 37 below is cold enough even without windchill!

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Dec 11, 2016 08:54:37   #
Marionsho Loc: Kansas
 
LFingar wrote:
Windchill will affect you, not your camera. 37 below is cold enough even without windchill!


Thanks. I didn't think the windchill was a factor, as far as the camera is concerned.

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Dec 11, 2016 09:02:28   #
markie1425 Loc: Bryn Mawr, PA
 
I've always thought that a camera's lubricants would become more viscose in lower temperatures. Haven't seen any mention about that.

I carry spare batteries in my pocket, so not a problem.

Thanks to so many who already responded.
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Dec 11, 2016 09:09:37   #
LFingar Loc: Claverack, NY
 
markie1425 wrote:
I've always thought that a camera's lubricants would become more viscose in lower temperatures. Haven't seen any mention about that.

I carry spare batteries in my pocket, so not a problem.

Thanks to so many who already responded.
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Lubricants are affected by temperature but I don't recall ever hearing of anyone having an issue with modern cameras and the modern, probably synthetic, lubricants they use. In extreme circumstances I could see it having an effect on auto focus but I don't recall hearing of it. Like I already said, you will probably malfunction before your camera does!

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Dec 11, 2016 09:16:23   #
markie1425 Loc: Bryn Mawr, PA
 
I'm a WWII baby and am already malfunctioning.

Yesterday's 73 is today's 73.
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Dec 11, 2016 09:19:45   #
Apaflo Loc: Anchorage, Alaska
 
Marionsho wrote:
Thanks. I didn't think the windchill was a factor, as far as the camera is concerned.

In fact windchill absolutely is a factor!

Windchill is basically a measure of how fast a warm object will cool to ambient temperature, or conversely how much heat has to be applied to prevent that. For a camera the operative concern is how fast the battery in the camera will cool until it can no longer provide enough charge to operate the camera.

If the temperature is 15F degrees with no wind the batteries will last for some given time. If the wind is blowing 15 MPH you can rest assured the amount of time you have before the camera is too cold to work is much shorter (because the Windchill Factor is -11F degrees). Even though it is 15F the effect is going to be something closer to how short it would be if the actual temperature were below zero.

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Dec 11, 2016 09:20:39   #
LFingar Loc: Claverack, NY
 
markie1425 wrote:
I'm a WWII baby and am already malfunctioning.

Yesterday's 73 is today's 73.
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You have 5 yrs on me. Winter has less and less appeal to me every year! Someplace with sand and Pina Coladas is more to my liking!

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