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Nov 9, 2016 08:46:50   #
twillsol Loc: St. Louis, MO
 
Which camera has the best sharpness at an ISO of 2,000 - 5000? I have a Nikon D800 with either the 24-70 or 70-200 2.8 lens and shoot my granddaughter’s volleyball games. Usually due to the venue’s poor lighting, I have to shoot at least an ISO of 1000 – 2000. Sometimes even higher. When I go above 2000, the noise starts to get bad. I can clean it up in lightroom, but it softens the photo quite a bit.

Is there a camera out there that is sharp at higher ISOs? I am willing to spend $4,000 - $5,000 but would like to keep it less. It does not have to be Nikon, any brand that works will be fine.

Thanks in advance for your advice.

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Nov 9, 2016 08:50:23   #
oldtigger Loc: Roanoke Virginia-USA
 
keep your iso below 1000 and change your de-noise program

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Nov 9, 2016 08:59:05   #
WayneT Loc: Paris, TN
 
Possibly going to a lower pixel count with larger sensor pixels would be the only remedy for that like a d750 at 24Mp vs the 800's 36 Mp's.

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Nov 9, 2016 08:59:30   #
DaveHam Loc: Reading UK
 
Yes, Nikon D4 shoots well at 6400, D4S gives about an extra half stop on that and the D5 shoots at 25600 as well as the D4 at 6400.

The D800 gets very noisy at 3200; you can use whatever noise reduction program you like but it will still cause loss of detail unless you spend a lot of time post processing.

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Nov 9, 2016 09:04:40   #
GoofyNewfie Loc: Kansas City
 
Nikon D5 (but a bit begond your budget)
https://photographylife.com/reviews/nikon-d500/4
Maybe the Df....?
The D810 is a bit better in all respects than the 800.
Personally, I'd look at the DX sensored D500.
It has anti-flicker detection to combat the flickering at a lot of venues and all your lenses get a virtual 1.5x boost in focal length.
Read this thread to see if it applies to you.
http://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-421475-1.html

I don't think anyone who hasn't shot film at high ASA/ISO appreciates how far technology has gotten us.
I used to push Tri-X (B&W) to 3200 and was pretty happy with that. Color was awful anywhere above 800 or so,

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Nov 9, 2016 09:09:12   #
rmalarz Loc: Tempe, Arizona
 
My D700 isn't bad. http://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-351002-1.html
--Bob

twillsol wrote:
Which camera has the best sharpness at an ISO of 2,000 - 5000? I have a Nikon D800 with either the 24-70 or 70-200 2.8 lens and shoot my granddaughter’s volleyball games. Usually due to the venue’s poor lighting, I have to shoot at least an ISO of 1000 – 2000. Sometimes even higher. When I go above 2000, the noise starts to get bad. I can clean it up in lightroom, but it softens the photo quite a bit.

Is there a camera out there that is sharp at higher ISOs? I am willing to spend $4,000 - $5,000 but would like to keep it less. It does not have to be Nikon, any brand that works will be fine.

Thanks in advance for your advice.
Which camera has the best sharpness at an ISO of 2... (show quote)

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Nov 9, 2016 09:21:57   #
lamiaceae Loc: San Luis Obispo County, CA
 
Confusing sharpness and noise.

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Nov 9, 2016 10:20:43   #
PaulR01 Loc: West Texas
 
twillsol their are several rules of thumb for shooting sports. With out a flash to stop motion you need to maintain a shutter speed at 1000 or above. Anything less risks motion at the extremities. In order to maintain that you need a lens in poor lighting that is what is considered as fast with an aperture of f 2.8 or faster. And the last thing would be a camera body with a native ISO of 16,000 or higher to reduce the noise.

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Nov 9, 2016 10:27:29   #
Mac Loc: Pittsburgh, Philadelphia now Hernando Co. Fl.
 
twillsol wrote:
Which camera has the best sharpness at an ISO of 2,000 - 5000? I have a Nikon D800 with either the 24-70 or 70-200 2.8 lens and shoot my granddaughter’s volleyball games. Usually due to the venue’s poor lighting, I have to shoot at least an ISO of 1000 – 2000. Sometimes even higher. When I go above 2000, the noise starts to get bad. I can clean it up in lightroom, but it softens the photo quite a bit.

Is there a camera out there that is sharp at higher ISOs? I am willing to spend $4,000 - $5,000 but would like to keep it less. It does not have to be Nikon, any brand that works will be fine.

Thanks in advance for your advice.
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I have gotten good results at 6400 with my Nikon Df.

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Nov 9, 2016 10:53:12   #
MT Shooter Loc: Montana
 
twillsol wrote:
Which camera has the best sharpness at an ISO of 2,000 - 5000? I have a Nikon D800 with either the 24-70 or 70-200 2.8 lens and shoot my granddaughter’s volleyball games. Usually due to the venue’s poor lighting, I have to shoot at least an ISO of 1000 – 2000. Sometimes even higher. When I go above 2000, the noise starts to get bad. I can clean it up in lightroom, but it softens the photo quite a bit.

Is there a camera out there that is sharp at higher ISOs? I am willing to spend $4,000 - $5,000 but would like to keep it less. It does not have to be Nikon, any brand that works will be fine.

Thanks in advance for your advice.
Which camera has the best sharpness at an ISO of 2... (show quote)


Its pretty much impossible to beat the Nikon DF in low light shooting. Here is a pic taken 9 days ago at dark, I could barely see the owl in the tree at all with my naked eye. Shot with the Nikon Df, Nikon 200-500mm at F5.6 and 500mm. 1/125 sec hand held, with +1 EC, ISO 12,800.
I can live with this under those conditions any day!


(Download)

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Nov 9, 2016 11:05:26   #
billnourse Loc: Bloomfield, NM
 
I am satisfied with images from my Canon 5d mk4. But your 800 is as good as mine so I don't know what you might go to if you are not satisfied with iso 6400 images. Most sports require a shutter speed of 800 and under most highschool gym or field lights you are going to be 6400 iso or more.

Bill

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Nov 9, 2016 11:05:34   #
GoofyNewfie Loc: Kansas City
 
MT Shooter wrote:
Its pretty much impossible to beat the Nikon DF in low light shooting. Shot with the Nikon Df, 1/125 sec hand held, ISO 12,800.
I can live with this under those conditions any day!


Jeepers!

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Nov 9, 2016 11:06:41   #
MT Shooter Loc: Montana
 
GoofyNewfie wrote:
Jeepers!


Yep, I drive a Jeep! LOL

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Nov 9, 2016 13:17:01   #
OddJobber Loc: Portland, OR
 
lamiaceae wrote:
Confusing sharpness and noise.


How do you separate them? Noise reduces sharpness. Noise reduction reduces sharpness.

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Nov 9, 2016 13:18:49   #
GoofyNewfie Loc: Kansas City
 
MT Shooter wrote:
Yep, I drive a Jeep! LOL

That seems appropriate.
Can't picture you in a Yugo....ever!

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