burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC

Market Inertia. It's a disease caused by hubris. That, and the PRIMARY reason to go mirrorless is to make the optics better, by making them smaller, lighter, with a shorter flange-to-sensor distance.

burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC

Fujifilm. Olympus. Panasonic. Sony. These are the industry leaders in mirrorless. Nikon just killed their "1" series. The problem Canon has is a lack of native 'M' lenses, and a really slow, crappy adapter for their EF lenses.

If you have Canon lenses, get either a MetaBones Smart Adapter or SpeedBooster for Olympus/Panasonic or Sony.

joseph premanandan

you are better off moving to fuji especially fuji-T1.it works well with its own lenses or Leika lenses.try it and you will like it,joseph

camerapapi Loc: Miami, Fl.

If you have the intention to go mirrorless your best bet would be to go Sony, Panasonic, Fuji or Olympus. I do not believe that either, Canon or Nikon, are going to be involved with a full frame mirrorless camera soon.
As has been already stated the new camera will imply buying new lenses or using an adapter for the lenses you now own.

bkellyusa Loc: Nashville, TN

The Sony A6000 and A6300 have always had viewfinders. They in fact have EVF which, in my opinion is vastly superior to an optical only viewfinder. Any perceived shortcomings for EVF, whether real or imagined, just don't apply to the Sony version.

Peterff Loc: O'er The Hills and Far Away, in Themyscira.

Well, regardless of people's preferences you don't have long to wait, The Canon EOS M5 will be announced tomorrow. It is APS-C, not full frame which only matters if you want a full frame camera. Some people do not. Here's what Canon Rumors has to say:

Canon EOS M5 Specifications

Sensor: Effective pixels 24.2 million pixels (the total number of pixels 25.8 million pixels) APS-C CMOS
Dual pixel AF CMOS
Video engine: DIGIC 7
ISO Sensitivity: 100-25600
Shutter speed: 1 / 4000-30 seconds
The maximum flash synchro shutter speed 1/200 sec
Continuous shooting: up to about 9 frames / sec., about 7 frames / sec (at the time of AF tracking?)
Video: Full HD 60p, 5-axis electronic image stabilization
EVF: 2.36 million dot
LCD Screen: 3.2 inches 1.62 million dot touch panel movable LCD
Wireless features: Wi-Fi (IEEE 802.11B / G / N), Bluetooth (4.1)
Battery: LP-E17
Media: SD / SDHC / SDXC card (UHS-I compatible)
Size (width x height x depth): 115.6 x 89.2 x 60.6 Mm
Weight: about 380g (body only), 427g (including battery and SD card)

This looks to be the first EOS M camera we're actually excited about.

Here is what it looks like. For myself, I prefer how a DSLR handles than many of the current small mirror less cameras, so this is one of the first mirror less cameras that looks interesting to me. Next I'll be interested in trying to try one out to see what it feels like. On paper, the specs look pretty good. Canon already has an adapter to work with existing EF-S and EF lenses, so I would imagine that Canon knows how to get the best out of them. Logically I don't see why Canon lenses would perform any less well on the new M5 than they would on an 80D for example.

moonhawk Loc: Land of Enchantment

But don't they make the effective focal length shorter?

moonhawk Loc: Land of Enchantment

Interesting. does it take standard Canon APS-C lenses?

burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC

MetaBones makes "dumb" adapters and "smart" adapters, neither of which alters the focal length. "Smart" adapters contain pass-through electronics for aperture control and autofocus, and the exact features depend on the camera-to-lens match.

They also make "SpeedBooster" adapters, which contain high quality optics that reduce the size of the projected image circle from full frame lenses, and thereby reduce actual focal length (by either .64X or .71X), IMPROVE optical performance (MTF scores), and gain intensity of light (1.33 stops for the .64X adapter and 1 stop for the .71X adapter.

The SpeedBoosters are VERY popular with independent filmmakers and video pros who (for example) may have started out with a Canon EOS 5 Mark II or III, and have a collection of Canon optics they wish to mate with a Panasonic GH4 or Sony A7s or sII. But they also work well for still photographers.

Go to metabones.com for more information. Their site lists dozens of adapters.

Peterff Loc: O'er The Hills and Far Away, in Themyscira.

Yes, with following adapter https://www.amazon.com/Canon-EOS-M-Mount-Adapter/dp/B008NF8CEK

We'll have to see how well it all shapes up, but I would guess that it should be just as good as something like the metabones adapter for Sony and others. We'll see whether Canon has done a decent job or screwed up with mirror less again soon, but if it is as good as it looks on paper it may just be time for the mirror less evangelists to focus their disdain on Nikon instead.

As for focal length, I think Bill just addressed that, but in this instance with the Canon adapter and lenses an EF lens would be just like using one on an APS-C Canon DSLR. So a different field of view to a full frame, a 1.6x crop factor. Also Canon is introducing a full range of EOS M lenses bit by bit.

If the M5 lives up to its spec then Canon will have the most versatile set of products on the market. Not to say that other brands aren't very good, but it may be time for the Canon bashers to take a bit of a break. Now I would be interested in seeing what Sharpshooter would have to say about the M5 if he tries one out.

burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC

Peter, some of the reviews I've seen on the M3 and M1 indicate that the M adapter for EF lenses reacts very slowly for autofocus. The M3 is tiny, and adapting it to something like a 70-200mm f/2.8L creates an unbalanced system, and looks silly.

There is an extensive review of the M3 at www.dpreview.com. In short, the camera uses older technology and lags its peers in performance, though image quality is quite good. Hopefully, the M5 will update the sensor, add dual-pixel AF to the focusing system, and speed up performance with lens adapters.

I'd really like to see Canon build a powerhouse mirrorless system with 30 to 50 NATIVE mirrorless system lenses and state-of-the-art performance, but I don't see them headed in that direction. Mirrorless competitors all have a head start. Micro 4/3 has been around since 2008. At least 50 native AF lenses (a mix of primes, zooms, and macros) are available from Olympus and Panasonic and others. At least 35 manual focus lenses are available for m4/3 as well. Hundreds of dSLR and cinematography optics can be adapted.

moonhawk Loc: Land of Enchantment

Thank you, Bill.

moonhawk Loc: Land of Enchantment

Thanks. I'll be interested to see how well the autofocus works, especially with moving subjects. I'm a nikon/Oly guy, but always curious. My brother has gone over to the darkside, and my be interested in their latest.

Bobsan Loc: Elgin,I'll.

If you have extra $$$ Fuji is going to announce their Mirrorless Medium Frame camera with 3 lenses at Photokina.

jackpi Loc: Southwest Ohio

I haven't noticed a difference in lens size or weight for the same sensor size. Lens size and weight scales directly with maximum aperture, sensor size, stabilization method and quality. You have to go to smaller sensors or larger maximum aperture sizes to get smaller/lighter lenses. Size changes with respect to flange-to-sensor distance are not significant.