Mirror-less system (Page 5): Yep. I have 6 Nikon lenses, plus 2 Minolta, and 2 Canon. No adapters... building a native Micro 4/3 system. I tested a SpeedBooster and loved it, but not...

burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC

crphoto8 wrote:

Thanks, I'll look into these adapters. I'll wait to see what Canon's mirror-less M5 looks like tomorrow. It seems that I'll need an adapter even with the M5 hence there'll be no particular benefit to stay with it. Full lens functionality is a big factor.

Yep. I have 6 Nikon lenses, plus 2 Minolta, and 2 Canon. No adapters... building a native Micro 4/3 system. I tested a SpeedBooster and loved it, but not with the lenses I have.

Peterff Loc: O'er The Hills and Far Away, in Themyscira.

TucsonCoyote wrote:

You noticed that about Big Bill didja.....

....he figures because he knows his shit when it comes to photography that you may just swallow anything he says or feels .....sometimes !

On the other hand, some people think his shit is good shit most of the time! Hopefully we are not taking this discussion into an Attic quality direction....,

Bill usually responds with good information and a respectful manner.

burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC

Kuzano wrote:

Really??? I seriously doubt that Nikon has sold even two, let alone 5, of their mirrorless bodies, and 13 lenses to go with those 5 is a bit of a stretch. Now I can't document those numbers, but what's your source?

Not dead yet, but gasping for buyers!!! So what's the deal with "facts" to support statements?

The info about dead Nikon 1 is, unfortunately, probably insider info. It came from several sites, one of which is listed above. Tony Northrup seems to have mentioned it recently, as well.

You know how these things work, right? Companies say nothing until the inventory is depleted. A discontinued item stays in the catalog until then. Then they quietly list the item as discontinued.

burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC

Peterff wrote:

I can make the statement simply on the basis that ... (show quote)

Fair enough. It's what I get for NOT answering on the computer instead of the phone.

Looking forward to the news from the show! Much is on the line for the INDUSTRY this year, more so than usual.

burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC

TucsonCoyote wrote:

You noticed that about Big Bill didja.....

....he figures because he knows his shit when it comes to photography that you may just swallow anything he says or feels .....sometimes !

I would never serve dog dooky to a Siamese cat!

Peterff Loc: O'er The Hills and Far Away, in Themyscira.

burkphoto wrote:

Fair enough. It's what I get for NOT answering on the computer instead of the phone.

Looking forward to the news from the show! Much is on the line for the INDUSTRY this year, more so than usual.

Yep! I think we agree.

Cdouthitt Loc: Traverse City, MI

After reading five pages of this, all I have to say is...I can't wait for Monday's announcement of the EM1ii. I'd take it any day of the week over a new canon m5...even if I owned canon lenses.

Peterff Loc: O'er The Hills and Far Away, in Themyscira.

Cdouthitt wrote:

After reading five pages of this, all I have to say is...I can't wait for Monday's announcement of the EM1ii. I'd take it any day of the week over a new canon m5...even if I owned canon lenses.

As you should if that is your specific preference. At one level it is interesting to watch all of this play out when I have no personal interest in the game.

Since I'm OK with my current choices, and will watch what happens as the games play out, I'm quite impressed with the level of passion that some people display.

They're only cameras, and as one of our members says: "Why worry about life, it's not permanent!"

Reinaldokool Loc: San Rafael, CA

crphoto8 wrote:

I asked a couple of weeks ago about Canon's full frame mirror-less body plans. The consensus among UHH folks was that Canon will not have a FF body soon but will come up with an ASP-C model in the next few days. So, here's my question - is it worth waiting for the Canon system (body and lenses since my L lenses may not work well with the mirror-less) or should I move to a Fuji, Olympus, etc system?

Thanks, Sam

In my opinion, both Canon and Nikon have botched the MILC game. They are too little, too late. I went with Sony, but Fuji also has an aps-c sensor. Both are excellent. The Sony focus system is far better than anyone else's. I don't like the Olympus. Tried one, but the sensor is smaller and I can't print 20x30 with any amount of cropping.

tdekany Loc: Oregon

Reinaldokool wrote:

Tried one, but the sensor is smaller and I can't print 20x30 with any amount of cropping.

No true me amigo.

Peterff Loc: O'er The Hills and Far Away, in Themyscira.

Reinaldokool wrote:

In my opinion, both Canon and Nikon have botched the MILC game. They are too little, too late. I went with Sony, but Fuji also has an aps-c sensor. Both are excellent. The Sony focus system is far better than anyone else's. I don't like the Olympus. Tried one, but the sensor is smaller and I can't print 20x30 with any amount of cropping.

And since you haven't yet seen the new Canon model why is your opinion important? The new Canon may be good, or it may be crap, but your opinion is based on yesterday's news. Pay attention, get a life, and deal with facts!

Jeez, can't somebody on UHH actually deal with evidence and factual reality? Sorry to react strongly, but I'm not seeing much balanced analysis here.

Sony, Olympus, Fuji or others may well be the best approach, but until we have some detail and independent analysis how do we know? So far the Canon mirror less products have been way sub standard, and it is a market they need to do better in.

We are currently going through one of the worst election processes that we have ever seen in the US. Neither side can field a competent candidate, at least in many people's opinions. Can't we do better than that on UHH?

wdross Loc: Castle Rock, Colorado

Cdouthitt wrote:

After reading five pages of this, all I have to say is...I can't wait for Monday's announcement of the EM1ii. I'd take it any day of the week over a new canon m5...even if I owned canon lenses.

I own a Canon lense and I probably will sell it to start saving for the new E-M1ii and either the Panasonic or Olympus 7-14mm.

Cdouthitt Loc: Traverse City, MI

wdross wrote:

I own a Canon lense and I probably will sell it to start saving for the new E-M1ii and either the Panasonic or Olympus 7-14mm.

I'm considering a Laowa 7.5mm f2 rectilinear now instead of the 7-14mm. It was just announced the other day and is supposed to be available early next year. Can't wait to hear more details and reveiws on it. Love the fact that it can accept filters.

http://www.imaging-resource.com/news/2016/09/14/venus-optics-rewrites-the-record-books-with-15mm-f-2-for-sony-e-mount-7.5mm

amfoto1 Loc: San Jose, Calif. USA

crphoto8 wrote:

I asked a couple of weeks ago about Canon's full frame mirror-less body plans. The consensus among UHH folks was that Canon will not have a FF body soon but will come up with an ASP-C model in the next few days. So, here's my question - is it worth waiting for the Canon system (body and lenses since my L lenses may not work well with the mirror-less) or should I move to a Fuji, Olympus, etc system?

Thanks, Sam

Canon has announced the M5 mirrorless, which I think for the first time features an electronic viewfinder. Not full frame, but that isn't a surprise (nor is it really necessary for a camera intended to be more compact and portable). It's APS-C (1.6X), 24MP with Dual Pixel CMOS AF and up to 9 frames per second stills, full HD video at up to 60 fps.

Besides EF-M lenses, including new 15-45mm and 18-150mm announced along with the M5, there's also an adapter available to allow use of your EF and EF-S lenses on the camera.

Might be worth checking out.