saminpa2001 wrote:
I'm looking for a wide angle lens for my Nikon D7100, no fisheye. Looked at the Nikon 10-24MM. Don't want to spend $800 plus. Any suggestion on another Brand? Or should i just bite the bullet?
Thanks,
Sam
Hi Sam,
You are in luck... No need to bite any bullets. There are a number of excellent alternatives that cost a lot less than either the Nikkor 10-24mm or 12-24mm, both of which are among the most expensive ultrawide DX lenses from anyone. The 10-24mm is selling for just under $900 US right now (the Tamron below is roughly equal quality, nearly half the price)... The Nikkor 12-24mm is a bit more robust lens and is on sale right now, selling for $950 (usually about $1150... there was a Tokina model of roughly equal quality for less than half the usual price of the Nikkor).
- Tokina AT-X 12-28mm f4 DX... is one of few that have a non-variable aperture, also is high quality construction with very good image quality. $450.
- Tokina AT-X 11-20mm f2.8 DX... the only f2.8 and a non-variable aperture... also very high quality images and built... it's a bit larger and heavier though, 82mm filters. $550. (Note: Previous model 11-16mm f2.8 DX II with focus motor is discontinued but still available for $479, it's very sharp but has a narrow range of focal lengths and is a bit prone to flare.)
- Tokina AT-X 14-20mm f2.0 DX... a relatively new model that just barely gets to ultrawide with 14mm, but is the only f2.0 lens in the bunch. This makes it rather large and heavy... and pricey at $850.
- Sigma 10-22mm HSM DC.... there are two versions: a smaller and cheaper one with variable aperture and a bigger, heavier, and usually more expensive one with f3.5 aperture. The first is hard to find right not for some reason.... while the latter is currently on sale, $200 off making it $450.
bwilliams wrote:
Another vote for the Sigma 10-20 f 4-5.6 on my D7000
Unfortunately, for some reason this cheaper version with variable aperture is hard to find in Nikon mount right now. It's been on sale too, maybe has completely sold out? The Canon version is available and selling for $300 ($50 off usual price). That price makes it relatively competitive with an ultrawide Canon recently introduced that cost less than any of them, but of course won't work on a Nikon camera.
- Sigma 8-16mm HSM DC... this is the widest of the ultrawides, short of a fisheye. It does have fairly strong wide angle distortion effects, though.... and at $700 it ain't cheap.
- Sigma 12-24mm HSM DG... is actually a full frame capable lens, one of the widest available and with fairly strong distortions, but pricey at $950 and would be rather a waste just to use on a crop camera.
- Tamron 10-24mm Di II.... is one of the most affordable models, a bit more plasticky than some of the others and a little less sharp at 24mm. $500 US.
Until recently there also was a Tokina AT-X 12-24mm f4.... the II version has focus motor for Nikon and was a good price for a good lens, you might find it still selling new somewhere. If you do, I think you'll find it's a well built and good performing lens as the Nikkor 12-24mm that costs nearly 3X as much. I've used this lens extensively on my Canon cameras for some years and it's quite good, very well built like the other three Tokina mentioned above. (Note: There were also Tokina 11-16mm f2.8 and 12-24mm f4 lenses without built-in motor in the Nikon version, that sold for less money. Because your D7000-series camera has a focus drive motor, these lenses will autofocus on it. They cannot autofocus on the D3000- and D5000-series cameras, or on earlier Nikon camera models lacking the focus drive motor.)
Regarding focus speed... you don't need to worry. Simply put, ultrawide lenses only need to move their focus group a very short physical distance to go from infinity to closest focus. Most are quite quick... even when using less sophisticated focusing drive systems. For example, I use a micro motor Tokina and find it focuses near instantaneously on my Canon cameras. In fact, there is no perceptible difference in focus speed, comparing it to a Canon USM drive (ultrasonic) ultrawide I also use... which is among the fastest AF drive types by any manufacturer. The micro motor Tokina makes a little noise when it focuses, but only noticeable in very quiet conditions. (Note: auto focus speed is much more of a concern with standard and telephoto focal lenses.)
10mm? 11mm? 12mm? Well, 11mm is about one step backward from 10mm, while 12mm is about 2 steps. The 14mm mentioned is a more significant difference.
Folks tend to jump on the big aperture lenses.... think they need them. But, to be honest, most actually don't on an ultrawide. For many purposes, you'll be stopping this type lens down quite a bit, not using it wide open. Short focal lengths are relatively easily handheld at slower shutter speeds... plus many purposes for these types of lenses are done using a tripod. And, except when used very close-up, even with f2.8 these lenses don't render much background blur. The larger aperture lenses are bigger, heavier and more expensive... often needing a bigger, more expensive filter and often not as sharp as the less extreme. Yes, there are some that need "fast" lenses: they might be wanted for photojournalism and astrophotography, for example. But the majority of users really don't need them.
Variable apertures also might be no problem for most users. They can be a bit of a pain for someone using manual lighting such studio strobes, though... or for anyone who regularly uses a separate, handheld light meter. Those folks might prefer one of the non-variable designs. But others who utilize their camera's through-the-lens metering systems and auto exposure modes a lot have little or not problem with the variable aperture lenses.
And, you'll notice there are no prime lenses... just zooms. There simply aren't many truly wide primes made for DX/APS-C cameras. Rokinon/Samyang make one or two that are manual focus only. There's a Nikkor 14mm FX, but that's extremely expensive. And there's a Zeiss 15mm, also expensive and manual focus only.
Finally, none of these lenses have any form of image stabilization. While nice on any lens, it's less necessary on ultrawides which are relatively easily handheld (unlike telephotos). Right now only Canon is offering a crop-only ultrawide with stabilization. Of course that lens won't work on your Nikon.