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Apr 19, 2016 11:20:46   #
jim hill Loc: Springfield, IL
 
Here are a couple more negative images.

If you have any, or would like to try you hand at this kind of image making, please feel free to add to this thread.

No rules - just fun.

Jim

Leaves In A Quadrant
Leaves In A Quadrant...
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Pink Lady (Inverted Negative)
Pink Lady (Inverted Negative)...
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Apr 19, 2016 14:22:27   #
Linda From Maine Loc: Yakima, Washington
 
I think the leaves are awesome, Jim. So fascinating! I want to try some, just have to settle down and do it. Thank you for these, and hopefully more folks will join in.

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Apr 19, 2016 16:25:40   #
jim hill Loc: Springfield, IL
 
Linda From Maine wrote:
I think the leaves are awesome, Jim. So fascinating! I want to try some, just have to settle down and do it. Thank you for these, and hopefully more folks will join in.


I think the difficulty of getting really interesting negative images may by daunting. I don't know. I have had had a lot of pleasure in doing this for both "blood" and fun. If you Google the topic you find there are very few making these kinds of images. At least I haven't found very many.

The problem may be that photographers don't realize that negatives can be manipulated (PP) in the same manner as positive images. It's a different kind of seeing. I like the old phrase, "What's in is out and what's out is in." And another, "What we see in a well printed negative is that which is the inner light and being of a subject." Both statements attributed to Wynn Bullock.

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Apr 19, 2016 18:51:24   #
minniev Loc: MIssissippi
 
jim hill wrote:
Here are a couple more negative images.

If you have any, or would like to try you hand at this kind of image making, please feel free to add to this thread.

No rules - just fun.

Jim


These are beautiful Jim. I won't pretend to know how this works, but I mean to try and decipher what you're doing. Very impressive and very artistic.

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Apr 19, 2016 23:26:41   #
jim hill Loc: Springfield, IL
 
minniev wrote:
These are beautiful Jim. I won't pretend to know how this works, but I mean to try and decipher what you're doing. Very impressive and very artistic.


Thanks, Min. They are negative images with positives floating somewhere. When I get back from Nebraska next mid-week I'll post the positives for comparison.

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Apr 20, 2016 18:02:18   #
minniev Loc: MIssissippi
 
I had to try, of course. It is just an experiment so take it for what that is worth:)

I decided this experiment would be better with infrared but since I don't have that, I just played...


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Apr 21, 2016 11:42:44   #
jim hill Loc: Springfield, IL
 
minniev wrote:
I had to try, of course. It is just an experiment so take it for what that is worth:)

I decided this experiment would be better with infrared but since I don't have that, I just played...


An excellent negative image. The spider is the ghost of the fellow who constructed the web. The droplets on the strands are absolutely gorgeous. Like heavenly orbs within which this fellow now resides awaiting his angel winged prey.

I think playing is the stuff of creativity.

Very nice, Min.

Idea: What about selecting the spider and turning it back to positive? Or, cloning it back onto the image from the original at about 50% lesser opacity?

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Apr 21, 2016 11:49:00   #
minniev Loc: MIssissippi
 
jim hill wrote:
An excellent negative image. The spider is the ghost of the fellow who constructed the web. The droplets on the strands are absolutely gorgeous. Like heavenly orbs within which this fellow now resides awaiting his angel winged prey.

I think playing is the stuff of creativity.

Very nice, Min.

Idea: What about selecting the spider and turning it back to positive? Or, cloning it back onto the image from the original at about 50% lesser opacity?


Thanks Jim, don't have a clue what I'm doing but it was fun! I'll see if I can layer and mask her back in.

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Apr 21, 2016 11:58:50   #
jim hill Loc: Springfield, IL
 
minniev wrote:
Thanks Jim, don't have a clue what I'm doing but it was fun! I'll see if I can layer and mask her back in.


It's only in magnified download that we can see all the detail of the lady. Even the hairs on her legs stand out. Your expertise and craft are simply wonderful. I hope that you will "play" with more images in this genre.

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Apr 21, 2016 11:58:55   #
jim hill Loc: Springfield, IL
 
minniev wrote:
Thanks Jim, don't have a clue what I'm doing but it was fun! I'll see if I can layer and mask her back in.


Oops - double hit the send button.

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Apr 21, 2016 13:53:11   #
minniev Loc: MIssissippi
 
jim hill wrote:
It's only in magnified download that we can see all the detail of the lady. Even the hairs on her legs stand out. Your expertise and craft are simply wonderful. I hope that you will "play" with more images in this genre.



You really ought not to encourage me Jim, I can get carried away with playing, and the wonderland of darkroom run that lives inside our computers.

Just for the heck of it, I fiddled with one of my Under The Dam pictures - the original is posted here. http://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-382327-3.html

I hope some others will play a bit with reverse images and see what they might come up with!! Thanks for encouraging a creative thread.


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Apr 21, 2016 15:43:37   #
jim hill Loc: Springfield, IL
 
minniev wrote:
You really ought not to encourage me Jim, I can get carried away with playing, and the wonderland of darkroom run that lives inside our computers.

Just for the heck of it, I fiddled with one of my Under The Dam pictures - the original is posted here. http://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-382327-3.html

I hope some others will play a bit with reverse images and see what they might come up with!! Thanks for encouraging a creative thread.


I think the original is so strong that the negative of it needs more manipulation to hold up in competition. If I were to have worked the same image there would have been an attempt to lighten the waters and darken the dam walls a little. There probably would have been some attempt to add more texture to the diagonal mass by dragging my tool along it's top surface. Your first post, the spider, held a sense of mystery. This one could do the same by manipulation of the negative elements to less negative qualities. In other words, this piece seems a little too much like a negative. In my opinion only.

Arrived in NE last evening amid terrible weather. The sun has finally broken through so it's out with my new Oly to see what can be found.

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Apr 21, 2016 15:44:29   #
jim hill Loc: Springfield, IL
 
minniev wrote:
You really ought not to encourage me Jim, I can get carried away with playing, and the wonderland of darkroom run that lives inside our computers.

Just for the heck of it, I fiddled with one of my Under The Dam pictures - the original is posted here. http://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-382327-3.html

I hope some others will play a bit with reverse images and see what they might come up with!! Thanks for encouraging a creative thread.


I think the original is so strong that the negative of it needs more manipulation to hold up in competition. If I were to have worked the same image there would have been an attempt to lighten the waters and darken the dam walls a little. There probably would have been some attempt to add more texture to the diagonal mass by dragging my tool along it's top surface. Your first post, the spider, held a sense of mystery. This one could do the same by manipulation of the negative elements to less negative qualities. In other words, this piece seems a little too much like a negative. In my opinion only.

Arrived in NE last evening amid terrible weather. The sun has finally broken through so it's out with my new Oly to see what can be found.

The above comments are to be taken only in slight degrees. You do have texture in those places I mentioned but more can be added - especially the wall - in my opinion

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Apr 21, 2016 15:45:26   #
Linda From Maine Loc: Yakima, Washington
 
I can see where this could be yet another addictive pastime :)

Jim, I don't seem to have a lot of images that are suitable, but #1 below I think came out kind of cool. Lots of peeling paint on these pipes, a close-up of old gas pump or other pumping type machine, I believe.

#2 I think has some possibilities and I'd love any input. I have not yet done any masking; it's just a reduced opacity b&w layer on top of the inverted - to get some sense of composition. I'm including the quick b&w conversion + the original, which is a crop of an extremely long distant shot (Canon SX50) I took this morning: first American Pelican sightings in the canyon this spring :)

If you or Minnie have some suggestions for my composite, I'd be most appreciative!


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Apr 21, 2016 15:55:50   #
Linda From Maine Loc: Yakima, Washington
 
I am also wondering about the differences in doing an invert of the color image first. Then converting to b&w. Might be interesting to see the differences, if any, in how those steps in processing affect a final negative of a b&w.

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