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Apr 21, 2016 17:00:07   #
minniev Loc: MIssissippi
 
jim hill wrote:
I think the original is so strong that the negative of it needs more manipulation to hold up in competition. If I were to have worked the same image there would have been an attempt to lighten the waters and darken the dam walls a little. There probably would have been some attempt to add more texture to the diagonal mass by dragging my tool along it's top surface. Your first post, the spider, held a sense of mystery. This one could do the same by manipulation of the negative elements to less negative qualities. In other words, this piece seems a little too much like a negative. In my opinion only.

Arrived in NE last evening amid terrible weather. The sun has finally broken through so it's out with my new Oly to see what can be found.

The above comments are to be taken only in slight degrees. You do have texture in those places I mentioned but more can be added - especially the wall - in my opinion
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thanks for the ideas, I don't have a clue what I'm doing of course:).

I kept the layered file in hopes you'd give me some ideas, and you did, so I'll fiddle with them a bit. I actually created that extreme graphic effect so it'll be easy to dial it back and go on from there .

Have fun on your travels and show us wonderful new things, as you always do!! Thanks again!

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Apr 25, 2016 19:44:39   #
jim hill Loc: Springfield, IL
 
Linda From Maine wrote:
I can see where this could be yet another addictive pastime :)

Jim, I don't seem to have a lot of images that are suitable, but #1 below I think came out kind of cool. Lots of peeling paint on these pipes, a close-up of old gas pump or other pumping type machine, I believe.

#2 I think has some possibilities and I'd love any input. I have not yet done any masking; it's just a reduced opacity b&w layer on top of the inverted - to get some sense of composition. I'm including the quick b&w conversion + the original, which is a crop of an extremely long distant shot (Canon SX50) I took this morning: first American Pelican sightings in the canyon this spring :)

If you or Minnie have some suggestions for my composite, I'd be most appreciative!
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Hi Linda,

Just returned from Nebraska. It was a wondeful time with our grand daughter taking fists in Oboe and Flute. The purpose of the trip was so that Alice could accompany her on her solo performances. It was a thrilling experience.

Now, about the piece. The ducks are really cute and I like the manner in which you have incorporated the negative images into the positive. A lot of playful fun with this one.

#1 above is a real winner. It is very well done and is quite scary. An exceptional piece. I inverted it to positive but the negative is much stronger to my way of thinking. Great job!

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Apr 25, 2016 19:51:02   #
jim hill Loc: Springfield, IL
 
Linda From Maine wrote:
I can see where this could be yet another addictive pastime :)

Jim, I don't seem to have a lot of images that are suitable, but #1 below I think came out kind of cool. Lots of peeling paint on these pipes, a close-up of old gas pump or other pumping type machine, I believe.

#2 I think has some possibilities and I'd love any input. I have not yet done any masking; it's just a reduced opacity b&w layer on top of the inverted - to get some sense of composition. I'm including the quick b&w conversion + the original, which is a crop of an extremely long distant shot (Canon SX50) I took this morning: first American Pelican sightings in the canyon this spring :)

If you or Minnie have some suggestions for my composite, I'd be most appreciative!
I can see where this could be yet another addictiv... (show quote)


I think I put this comment in with someone's photographs:

Hi Linda,

Just returned from Nebraska. It was a wondeful time with our grand daughter taking fists in Oboe and Flute. The purpose of the trip was so that Alice could accompany her on her solo performances. It was a thrilling experience.

Now, about the piece. The ducks are really cute and I like the manner in which you have incorporated the negative images into the positive. A lot of playful fun with this one.

#1 above is a real winner. It is very well done and is quite scary. An exceptional piece. I inverted it to positive but the negative is much stronger to my way of thinking. Great jo

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Apr 26, 2016 07:56:00   #
Linda From Maine Loc: Yakima, Washington
 
Jim, so glad to hear your trip was a success and all had a terrific time!

Thanks so much for the feedback on my pelicans and the machinery. I'll try some more soon, and hope to learn more from you :)



jim hill wrote:
Hi Linda,

Just returned from Nebraska. It was a wondeful time with our grand daughter taking fists in Oboe and Flute. The purpose of the trip was so that Alice could accompany her on her solo performances. It was a thrilling experience.

Now, about the piece. The ducks are really cute and I like the manner in which you have incorporated the negative images into the positive. A lot of playful fun with this one.

#1 above is a real winner. It is very well done and is quite scary. An exceptional piece. I inverted it to positive but the negative is much stronger to my way of thinking. Great job!
Hi Linda, br br Just returned from Nebraska. It w... (show quote)

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Apr 26, 2016 09:36:26   #
jim hill Loc: Springfield, IL
 
Linda From Maine wrote:
I think the leaves are awesome, Jim. So fascinating! I want to try some, just have to settle down and do it. Thank you for these, and hopefully more folks will join in.


Another negative image, except for the moon. The original had the moon in the same position but I have substituted another moon in its place. The original was a colour shot.

For me one of the interesting aspects of negative images is when they are done in a manner that causes viewers to wonder what is going on here. I think this one does that for if you did not know what had been done you would ask that question.

Moon & Paking Lot Lights
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Apr 26, 2016 11:09:08   #
Linda From Maine Loc: Yakima, Washington
 
jim hill wrote:
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For me one of the interesting aspects of negative images is when they are done in a manner that causes viewers to wonder what is going on here. I think this one does that for if you did not know what had been done you would ask that question.


Thanks! That's a very helpful point to remember.

Like this minimalist shot, too!

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Apr 29, 2016 15:29:22   #
Linda From Maine Loc: Yakima, Washington
 
Though I haven't quite achieved "mystery, less literal" (per the article) or your mention of causing the viewer to wonder what is going on, I did - after many failings - accomplish another that I like as much in negative as positive :)

Textures are PS Elements "note paper" and Topaz Simplify oil painting. The ground was snow-covered. Any advice gladly received. Thank you, Jim!


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Apr 29, 2016 17:11:59   #
Linda From Maine Loc: Yakima, Washington
 
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May 2, 2016 03:20:36   #
jim hill Loc: Springfield, IL
 
Linda From Maine wrote:
Though I haven't quite achieved "mystery, less literal" (per the article) or your mention of causing the viewer to wonder what is going on, I did - after many failings - accomplish another that I like as much in negative as positive :)

Textures are PS Elements "note paper" and Topaz Simplify oil painting. The ground was snow-covered. Any advice gladly received. Thank you, Jim!


In my opinion #1 is the image that is stronger. It does have those things we have been discussing. With this one you have entered the world of fine art museum quality which many curators would highly consider. Especially if you had several more on this manner and of different subject matter.

It a marvelous piece. You won't find many hoggers who agree but that's another matter. Excellent use of the medium.

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May 2, 2016 08:32:14   #
Linda From Maine Loc: Yakima, Washington
 
jim hill wrote:
In my opinion #1 is the image that is stronger. It does have those things we have been discussing. With this one you have entered the world of fine art museum quality which many curators would highly consider. Especially if you had several more on this manner and of different subject matter.

It a marvelous piece. You won't find many hoggers who agree but that's another matter. Excellent use of the medium.


Thank you so much for your lovely comments, Jim. I'm so appreciative of your support and feedback. Am going to keep at this for sure!

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