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Jan 10, 2016 09:53:44   #
minniev Loc: MIssissippi
 
plessner wrote:
Hope I am not overloading by posting a few more


Both your sets are really beautiful. The waterfall one is excellent but then all of them are, and they are all so different, so it is hard to compare. Thank you for sharing your fine work with us. We can all learn from it.

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Jan 10, 2016 12:00:48   #
Linda From Maine Loc: Yakima, Washington
 
plessner wrote:
I was in a sunflower field in the early morning and didn't really do anything special as the sunbursts were a happy surprise rather then planned. I looked back at the properties of that photo and I was at 100 ISO f/11 1/200 ex with a focal length of 150mm. So after seeing these numbers I am really wondering myself how this photo came together!!!


Happy surprises are the best :thumbup:

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Jan 10, 2016 22:57:19   #
Frank2013 Loc: San Antonio, TX. & Milwaukee, WI.
 
Ran across this looking of something else and thought it fit here. Funny thing is the only difference in camera settings between it and plessner’s was mine being shot at 125mm.


(Download)

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Jan 11, 2016 08:14:46   #
Linda From Maine Loc: Yakima, Washington
 
R.G. wrote:
I'm not sure what all's been said about polarising filters (CPL filters) so far...


Here's a note that rivernan sent me from an article she read:

"If shooting with very strong backlighting (such as the sun), I am less-likely to recommend using a protection filter because increased flare is a possibility. The increased potential for flare is indeed the biggest downside to using a clear or UV filter. "

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Jan 11, 2016 08:17:24   #
Linda From Maine Loc: Yakima, Washington
 
Frank2013 wrote:
Ran across this looking of something else and thought it fit here. Funny thing is the only difference in camera settings between it and plessner’s was mine being shot at 125mm.


f/11, 1/200 sec

Those water sparkles add warmth and happy feelings to an already charming and loving scene between parent and child. Wonderfully captured, Frank!

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Jan 11, 2016 09:45:02   #
plessner Loc: North Dakota
 
Linda From Maine wrote:
Here's a note that rivernan sent me from an article she read:

"If shooting with very strong backlighting (such as the sun), I am less-likely to recommend using a protection filter because increased flare is a possibility. The increased potential for flare is indeed the biggest downside to using a clear or UV filter. "


I guess I have found that I need to take the filter off a lot of times when shooting into the sun to prevent big flares and a nicer sunburst pattern. Another thing I have figured out lately is that for a nicer sunburst is that when I am using a zoom lens it looks much nicer to be using the lens at the smallest focal length possible--as I zoom in more the sunburst seems to get more chunky looking rather than nice and elegant (does that make sense)

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Jan 11, 2016 10:42:53   #
Linda From Maine Loc: Yakima, Washington
 
plessner wrote:
... Another thing I have figured out lately is that for a nicer sunburst is that when I am using a zoom lens it looks much nicer to be using the lens at the smallest focal length possible--as I zoom in more the sunburst seems to get more chunky looking rather than nice and elegant (does that make sense)


It does make sense, and thanks for pointing that out! My close-up of yellow-leafed tree on page 1 was at 18 mm (equiv. 28 mm on full frame).

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Jan 11, 2016 11:48:11   #
RiverNan Loc: Eastern Pa
 
thanks Linda...
I decided on a clear for protection for a new lens. Its new to me that either would have an effect on flare...so learn something new...YAY
Linda From Maine wrote:
Here's a note that rivernan sent me from an article she read:

"If shooting with very strong backlighting (such as the sun), I am less-likely to recommend using a protection filter because increased flare is a possibility. The increased potential for flare is indeed the biggest downside to using a clear or UV filter. "

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Jan 11, 2016 11:50:43   #
Linda From Maine Loc: Yakima, Washington
 
RiverNan wrote:
thanks Linda...
I decided on a clear for protection for a new lens. Its new to me that either would have an effect on flare...so learn something new...YAY


:thumbup:

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Jan 11, 2016 12:32:13   #
R.G. Loc: Scotland
 
Linda From Maine wrote:
Here's a note that rivernan sent me from an article she read:

"If shooting with very strong backlighting (such as the sun), I am less-likely to recommend using a protection filter because increased flare is a possibility. The increased potential for flare is indeed the biggest downside to using a clear or UV filter. "


I can see why a UV or clear filter would increase the chances of flare, but I wonder if the polarising effect of a CPL filter helps to suppress flare. Maybe I should go looking for info. My harbour shot looks like a sure-fire recipe for flare, but there wasn't any.

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Jan 11, 2016 14:06:38   #
Linda From Maine Loc: Yakima, Washington
 
R.G. wrote:
I can see why a UV or clear filter would increase the chances of flare, but I wonder if the polarising effect of a CPL filter helps to suppress flare. Maybe I should go looking for info. My harbour shot looks like a sure-fire recipe for flare, but there wasn't any.


If you have any sun in the near forecast, please test this for us :)

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Jan 11, 2016 14:28:39   #
R.G. Loc: Scotland
 
Linda From Maine wrote:
If you have any sun in the near forecast, please test this for us :)


Don't hold your breath :-) . So far I've found an article suggesting that when a CPL is facing the sun it won't do much. The with/without posted shots are very similar, but the flare is slightly less with the CPL filter.

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Jan 11, 2016 17:40:52   #
photosbytw Loc: Blue Ridge Mountains
 
Conventional wisdom had always been to use the CPL 90 degrees from the sun to be the most affective. Leaving for a meeting, so won't be able to research...............
R.G. wrote:
Don't hold your breath :-) . So far I've found an article suggesting that when a CPL is facing the sun it won't do much. The with/without posted shots are very similar, but the flare is slightly less with the CPL filter.

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Jan 12, 2016 13:41:46   #
R.G. Loc: Scotland
 
photosbytw wrote:
Conventional wisdom had always been to use the CPL 90 degrees from the sun to be the most affective. Leaving for a meeting, so won't be able to research...............


Info that relates specifically to lens flare is a bit thin on the ground. A first impression from a quick trawl is that UV filters definitely increase your chances of getting lens flare, but CPL filters (even cheap, uncoated ones) don't make things worse and may even help a little.

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Jan 12, 2016 20:25:09   #
photosbytw Loc: Blue Ridge Mountains
 
I went through some of the bookmarked material on my computer and found this.

"Yesterday, we discovered what circular polarizers are and what they accomplish. Today you’ll learn six tips for using a polarizer.
Polarizer Tip #1: Polarizers will have little or no effect when used to shoot a setting sun, because the angle is wrong. The effect of a polarizers manifests itself at 90 degree angles to the sun. "

For the rest of the article,

http://improvephotography.com/333/tips-photography-circular-polarizer/

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