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Apr 19, 2012 13:59:48   #
coco1964 Loc: Winsted Mn
 
I looked at your photo in my program and the blues in the histogram are high and all the way off the screen to the right indicating oversaturation. I desaturated and histogram fell right into place. While I was playing I took a look at this photo in B&W---awesome if you get those 2 verticle streaks out of the sky which you can do in PP.......

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Apr 19, 2012 14:05:30   #
WVHillbilly Loc: West Virginia
 
notnoBuddha wrote:
I fully understand the vivid almost over satuation look may well have been what you were trying for, if so I would say you did that. On a personal, subjective level, the subject and technique does little for me. The two white lines towards the middle that I assume are contrails - I found a destraction.


The contrails were the first thing that caught my eye also.

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Apr 19, 2012 14:07:28   #
docrob Loc: Durango, Colorado
 
largeformat wrote:
This is an image of Mono Lake in California, it is a photograph of what they call a "Tuff". I have a thick skin and I would like your honest opinion on this image. I am trying to do alternate processing on some of my images to see if any are appealing to look at. Thanks for your comments in advance.


I know your getting lot's of feedback that to many here at the trough this image looks like a bad case of HDR blues......but I got to thinking - how much are you sharpening??? and what sharpening tools are you using??

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Apr 19, 2012 14:07:53   #
docrob Loc: Durango, Colorado
 
largeformat wrote:
This is an image of Mono Lake in California, it is a photograph of what they call a "Tuff". I have a thick skin and I would like your honest opinion on this image. I am trying to do alternate processing on some of my images to see if any are appealing to look at. Thanks for your comments in advance.

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Apr 19, 2012 14:19:21   #
coco1964 Loc: Winsted Mn
 
docrob wrote:
largeformat wrote:
This is an image of Mono Lake in California, it is a photograph of what they call a "Tuff". I have a thick skin and I would like your honest opinion on this image. I am trying to do alternate processing on some of my images to see if any are appealing to look at. Thanks for your comments in advance.


I know your getting lot's of feedback that to many here at the trough this image looks like a bad case of HDR blues......but I got to thinking - how much are you sharpening??? and what sharpening tools are you using??
quote=largeformat This is an image of Mono Lake i... (show quote)
I see where you're coming from with the over sharpening but would that throw his blues in the histogram off. The sharpness doesn't grab me as much as the brightness of the sky---just wondering........

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Apr 19, 2012 14:24:14   #
DonBida
 
I like the vividness. It would be interesting to see what some detail in the tuffs looked like with a similar background. The green glow in the water is cool. Thank you.

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Apr 19, 2012 14:50:41   #
ward5311 Loc: Georgia
 
Guess noone is home...agree... looks like something is happening outside of camera that causes this perception...I looked at the others from the OP and I see the same thing. No offense meant but it has to be in PP.

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Apr 19, 2012 15:11:08   #
docrob Loc: Durango, Colorado
 
I see where you're coming from with the over sharpening but would that throw his blues in the histogram off. The sharpness doesn't grab me as much as the brightness of the sky---just wondering........[/quote]

Now that you mention it - nope, i don't think so - at least not just in the one channel. i've seen some strange artifacts caused by improperly used sharpening tools - overly used - and its common for folks who can't yet really see to over sharpen....

the whole image has a kind of vibrancy to it that really looks like overly done HDR to me. It's kinda like looking at some psychedelic image or maybe being stoned on Mushrooms.......i'm just real curious if this is representative of his images......and whatever the software is he's using.

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Apr 19, 2012 18:13:04   #
largeformat Loc: Bend, Oregon
 
coco1964 wrote:
Have to agree that it looks overcooked on my monitor and the 2 verticle lines are distracting. Is your monitor calibrated?? I ask this because a number of folks have suggested the over saturation and HDR effct but you don't seem to see what we are seeing. Very interesting subject. Also agree would be nice if you posted the original and let some try and play with it..............


Yes my monitor is calibrated. I use an xrite eye one display 2 for calibration.

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Apr 19, 2012 18:16:27   #
largeformat Loc: Bend, Oregon
 
docrob wrote:
largeformat wrote:
This is an image of Mono Lake in California, it is a photograph of what they call a "Tuff". I have a thick skin and I would like your honest opinion on this image. I am trying to do alternate processing on some of my images to see if any are appealing to look at. Thanks for your comments in advance.


I know your getting lot's of feedback that to many here at the trough this image looks like a bad case of HDR blues......but I got to thinking - how much are you sharpening??? and what sharpening tools are you using??
quote=largeformat This is an image of Mono Lake i... (show quote)


I use high pass sharpening in photo shop. 0 to 100 I use maybe 25% not much at all. I think it is the software that I am trying to use. The Tuff is tack sharp in the original image.

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Apr 19, 2012 18:23:13   #
sinatraman Loc: Vero Beach Florida, Earth,alpha quaudrant
 
i bet if you polled the people who posted on your photo you would find that the photography as an art form photogs like me, enjoyed the creative painterly look to it, and dont give a rats patootie about it not being realistic. and the photography as a science guys who want photos so sharp they will cut diamonds, and say doesn't that 3rd molecule to the left of that electron look not quite sharp, hate your photo.

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Apr 19, 2012 18:28:01   #
docrob Loc: Durango, Colorado
 
largeformat wrote:
docrob wrote:
largeformat wrote:
This is an image of Mono Lake in California, it is a photograph of what they call a "Tuff". I have a thick skin and I would like your honest opinion on this image. I am trying to do alternate processing on some of my images to see if any are appealing to look at. Thanks for your comments in advance.


I know your getting lot's of feedback that to many here at the trough this image looks like a bad case of HDR blues......but I got to thinking - how much are you sharpening??? and what sharpening tools are you using??
quote=largeformat This is an image of Mono Lake i... (show quote)


I use high pass sharpening in photo shop. 0 to 100 I use maybe 25% not much at all. I think it is the software that I am trying to use. The Tuff is tack sharp in the original image.
quote=docrob quote=largeformat This is an image ... (show quote)


ohhhhh thats too much high pass - 17% is about tops - and it's not the best sharpening tool for that subject - your Tuff has way too much detail to start with for High Pass - have you considered using Emboss instead and keeping your pixals at around 3 at 100%/

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Apr 19, 2012 18:30:00   #
docrob Loc: Durango, Colorado
 
sinatraman wrote:
i bet if you polled the people who posted on your photo you would find that the photography as an art form photogs like me, enjoyed the creative painterly look to it, and dont give a rats patootie about it not being realistic. and the photography as a science guys who want photos so sharp they will cut diamonds, and say doesn't that 3rd molecule to the left of that electron look not quite sharp, hate your photo.


ahhhh but sharpness is the problem - and i ain't a science techie guy - wrong application of a tool and then a tad too much of it at that gives this image the as you put it "so sharp it will cut diamonds" look about it.

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Apr 19, 2012 18:34:35   #
largeformat Loc: Bend, Oregon
 
sinatraman wrote:
i bet if you polled the people who posted on your photo you would find that the photography as an art form photogs like me, enjoyed the creative painterly look to it, and dont give a rats patootie about it not being realistic. and the photography as a science guys who want photos so sharp they will cut diamonds, and say doesn't that 3rd molecule to the left of that electron look not quite sharp, hate your photo.


Sinatraman: You are probably right. I used a painting program to make the image. The dark blue in the sky is from the polorizer. If you look at the snow, there is no color cast. The program did soften the image. Someone asked me if my monitor is calibrated. It sure is and maybe other members are viewing the image on non calibrated monitors, which is a whole different can of worms. About the only thing you can critique from a image is sharpness, and compostion. Everything else would be mute if you didn't calibrate your monitor. Don't you agree.

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Apr 19, 2012 18:38:18   #
ward5311 Loc: Georgia
 
No science guy here or even that an image has to look "realistic" whatever that means. It does look oversharpened...and over saturated in PP..each to his own..and it would seem strange the all our monitors are not properly calibrated...

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