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Apr 12, 2012 06:21:55   #
sarge69 Loc: Ft Myers, FL
 
tschmath wrote:
AK Dreamer wrote:
I believe in the case mentioned, the individual's school documents show he attended on a foreign student scholorship, that the individual's birth certificate says he was born in a country that didn't exist at the time of his birth, and that he visited the far east on a passport of a different country other than the U.S. Just a few facts to support the case in question.


"I believe". What a load of c**p. Prove any single thing you allege in your statement. I dare you. It simply cannot be done. Your statement about the foreign student scholarship is a load of c**p. Just check out this link:
http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/birthers/occidental.asp

Honestly, I cannot believe this is still being debated. How come no one ever questioned John McCain's citizenship when it was shown he was born in PANAMA!!!! If you don't believe that, check out this link:
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/11/us/politics/11mccain.html

I know I'm going to raise a real firestorm here, but I firmly believe that this whole "birther" thing is about race. John McCain was born in Panama, he gets a free ride. Obama was born in Hawaii, and he's suspect. Hmmmmm......
quote=AK Dreamer I believe in the case mentioned,... (show quote)


By U.S. Law, any person born to parents in the Panama Canal Zone have their birth certified by the then Panama Control Commission. They are legally U.S. citizens. Just as children born to U.S. Soldiers/wives overseas are U.S. Citizens with their birth recorded at a U.S. Embassy on a ' Report of Birth Abroad' form ( ROBA ). A certificate of live birth is questionable to say the least.

Sarge

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Apr 12, 2012 07:39:46   #
picturedude Loc: Yosemite natl. park, Ca.
 
Remember, I'm not saying any names here, just a question in general. I just want to know what would happen IF????? Lets keep it nameless.

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Apr 12, 2012 09:03:29   #
woody54895 Loc: NW Wisconsin
 
Love this site. It is so entertaining.

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Apr 12, 2012 09:15:43   #
Frank T Loc: New York, NY
 
OMG - Birthers!!!!
Really folks - get a hold on reality.

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Apr 12, 2012 09:59:53   #
tschmath Loc: Los Angeles
 
AK Dreamer wrote:
Regarding the individual being talked about here and travel to a foreign country on a foreign passport, here are questions that need to be answered:
Q: Did he travel to Pakistan in 1981, at age 20?
A : Yes, by his own admission.
Q: What passport did he travel under?
A: There are only three possibilities.
1) He traveled with a U.S. Passport,
2) He traveled with a British passport, or
3) He traveled with an Indonesia passport.
Q: Is it possible that Obama traveled with a U.S. Passport in 1981?
A: No. It is not possible. Pakistan was on the U.S. State Department's "no travel" list in 1981.
Conclusion: When Obama went to Pakistan in 1981 he was traveling either with a British passport or an Indonesian passport.
If he were traveling with a British passport that would provide proof that he was born in Kenya on August 4, 1961, not in Hawaii as he claims. And if he were traveling with an Indonesian passport that would tend to prove that he relinquished whatever previous citizenship he held, British or American, prior to being adopted by his Indonesian step-father in 1967. !
Regarding the individual being talked about here a... (show quote)


This is like shooting fish in a barrel. You simply copied and pasted the whole lie as it appeared on the internet years ago. Snopes has long ago put the lie to this rumor. Read it here to see that you are helping to spread wild conspiratorial lies that just aren't true, like all of the other nonsense about his citizenship:

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/passport.asp

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Apr 12, 2012 10:15:44   #
alann Loc: Virginia
 
His citizenship does not matter. He is a socialist that wants to take any and all power away from the people. Refuses to salute the flag and has stated that the National anthem should be changed because it is offensive to some other countries. Sad, sad excuse for a Commander and Chief.

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Apr 12, 2012 10:44:10   #
tschmath Loc: Los Angeles
 
alann wrote:
His citizenship does not matter. He is a socialist that wants to take any and all power away from the people. Refuses to salute the flag and has stated that the National anthem should be changed because it is offensive to some other countries. Sad, sad excuse for a Commander and Chief.


More fish in the barrel, thank you. False accusation AGAIN!!!!!

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/stance.asp

C'mon, righties, this is just getting too damn easy. Try doing maybe 30 seconds of research before you make these idiotic claims.

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Apr 12, 2012 10:44:59   #
rayford2 Loc: New Bethlehem, PA
 
tschmath wrote:
AK Dreamer wrote:
I believe in the case mentioned, the individual's school documents show he attended on a foreign student scholorship, that the individual's birth certificate says he was born in a country that didn't exist at the time of his birth, and that he visited the far east on a passport of a different country other than the U.S. Just a few facts to support the case in question.


"I believe". What a load of c**p. Prove any single thing you allege in your statement. I dare you. It simply cannot be done. Your statement about the foreign student scholarship is a load of c**p. Just check out this link:
http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/birthers/occidental.asp

Honestly, I cannot believe this is still being debated. How come no one ever questioned John McCain's citizenship when it was shown he was born in PANAMA!!!! If you don't believe that, check out this link:
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/11/us/politics/11mccain.html

I know I'm going to raise a real firestorm here, but I firmly believe that this whole "birther" thing is about race. John McCain was born in Panama, he gets a free ride. Obama was born in Hawaii, and he's suspect. Hmmmmm......
quote=AK Dreamer I believe in the case mentioned,... (show quote)


As I understand it, Snopes has a very generous contributor named George Soros.
No wonder many of the anti-liberal agendae "rumors" are dispelled by Snopes.
Snopes has no credibility when it comes to political issues.
Neither does most of the other political forums of ANY party.

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Apr 12, 2012 10:49:02   #
tschmath Loc: Los Angeles
 
rayford2 wrote:


As I understand it, Snopes has a very generous contributor named George Soros.
No wonder many of the anti-liberal agendae "rumors" are dispelled by Snopes.
Snopes has no credibility when it comes to political issues.


"As I understand it". What does that mean? What kind of proof do you have? Once again, go to the source:

http://www.snopes.com/info/aboutus.asp

You people will believe anything you hear. I've got this bridge in Arizona.......

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Apr 12, 2012 10:56:24   #
rayford2 Loc: New Bethlehem, PA
 
tschmath wrote:
AK Dreamer wrote:
Regarding the individual being talked about here and travel to a foreign country on a foreign passport, here are questions that need to be answered:
Q: Did he travel to Pakistan in 1981, at age 20?
A : Yes, by his own admission.
Q: What passport did he travel under?
A: There are only three possibilities.
1) He traveled with a U.S. Passport,
2) He traveled with a British passport, or
3) He traveled with an Indonesia passport.
Q: Is it possible that Obama traveled with a U.S. Passport in 1981?
A: No. It is not possible. Pakistan was on the U.S. State Department's "no travel" list in 1981.
Conclusion: When Obama went to Pakistan in 1981 he was traveling either with a British passport or an Indonesian passport.
If he were traveling with a British passport that would provide proof that he was born in Kenya on August 4, 1961, not in Hawaii as he claims. And if he were traveling with an Indonesian passport that would tend to prove that he relinquished whatever previous citizenship he held, British or American, prior to being adopted by his Indonesian step-father in 1967. !
Regarding the individual being talked about here a... (show quote)


This is like shooting fish in a barrel. You simply copied and pasted the whole lie as it appeared on the internet years ago. Snopes has long ago put the lie to this rumor. Read it here to see that you are helping to spread wild conspiratorial lies that just aren't true, like all of the other nonsense about his citizenship:

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/passport.asp
quote=AK Dreamer Regarding the individual being t... (show quote)


Anyone who believes Snopes whole heartedly should find out who their sponsors are.
Snopes has no integrity when it comes to politics. The same holds true for a lot of politically oriented "fact finder" organizations, no matter what party they support.

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Apr 12, 2012 11:18:18   #
rayford2 Loc: New Bethlehem, PA
 
tschmath wrote:
rayford2 wrote:


As I understand it, Snopes has a very generous contributor named George Soros.
No wonder many of the anti-liberal agendae "rumors" are dispelled by Snopes.
Snopes has no credibility when it comes to political issues.


"As I understand it". What does that mean? What kind of proof do you have? Once again, go to the source:

http://www.snopes.com/info/aboutus.asp

You people will believe anything you hear. I've got this bridge in Arizona.......
quote=rayford2 br br As I understand it, Snopes... (show quote)


"As I understand it" means the many articles I've read over the internet and other media, pro and con, is the most realistic conclusion I have come to, not anyone else.
It does not mean I'm a staunch Conservative or anything else.
Snopes falls in the same category as many other so-called "fact-finder" forums that are politically influenced.
It's up to you and I to decide what information we think is credible and what isn't, and if we disagree...so be it.

I have a bridge in Brooklyn, too.

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Apr 12, 2012 11:29:37   #
Pepper Loc: Planet Earth Country USA
 
In what I’ve been reading on several threads tschmath is the liberal version of Rush Limbaugh. If the liberals wanted to pass a law that we were required to sleep at least 8 hours in 24 to better our health and bring down health care cost this guy would support it. If it were the conservatives who wrote the law it would be the dumbest thing he’d ever seen. He’s a mouth piece for the liberals just as Limbaugh is for the conservatives the only difference is the platform he has to work with. I think NPR should give him his own talk show.

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Apr 12, 2012 11:55:55   #
Lmarc Loc: Ojojona, Honduras
 
Pepper wrote:
In what I’ve been reading on several threads tschmath is the liberal version of Rush Limbaugh. If the liberals wanted to pass a law that we were required to sleep at least 8 hours in 24 to better our health and bring down health care cost this guy would support it. If it were the conservatives who wrote the law it would be the dumbest thing he’d ever seen. He’s a mouth piece for the liberals just as Limbaugh is for the conservatives the only difference is the platform he has to work with. I think NPR should give him his own talk show.
In what I’ve been reading on several threads tschm... (show quote)


I believe that's a definition of.....TROLL?

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Apr 12, 2012 11:58:11   #
Pepper Loc: Planet Earth Country USA
 
Lmarc wrote:
Pepper wrote:
In what I’ve been reading on several threads tschmath is the liberal version of Rush Limbaugh. If the liberals wanted to pass a law that we were required to sleep at least 8 hours in 24 to better our health and bring down health care cost this guy would support it. If it were the conservatives who wrote the law it would be the dumbest thing he’d ever seen. He’s a mouth piece for the liberals just as Limbaugh is for the conservatives the only difference is the platform he has to work with. I think NPR should give him his own talk show.
In what I’ve been reading on several threads tschm... (show quote)


I believe that's a definition of.....TROLL?
quote=Pepper In what I’ve been reading on several... (show quote)


Oh come on he's not a troll, he's posted many ligitimate questions and posts in the photograhy section. You can disagree with him and not like the positions he takes but that doesn't make him a troll.

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Apr 12, 2012 12:07:15   #
UP-2-IT Loc: RED STICK, LA
 
tschmath wrote:
AK Dreamer wrote:
I believe in the case mentioned, the individual's school documents show he attended on a foreign student scholorship, that the individual's birth certificate says he was born in a country that didn't exist at the time of his birth, and that he visited the far east on a passport of a different country other than the U.S. Just a few facts to support the case in question.


"I believe". What a load of c**p. Prove any single thing you allege in your statement. I dare you. It simply cannot be done. Your statement about the foreign student scholarship is a load of c**p. Just check out this link:
http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/birthers/occidental.asp

Honestly, I cannot believe this is still being debated. How come no one ever questioned John McCain's citizenship when it was shown he was born in PANAMA!!!! If you don't believe that, check out this link:
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/11/us/politics/11mccain.html

I know I'm going to raise a real firestorm here, but I firmly believe that this whole "birther" thing is about race. John McCain was born in Panama, he gets a free ride. Obama was born in Hawaii, and he's suspect. Hmmmmm......
quote=AK Dreamer I believe in the case mentioned,... (show quote)


Tech wait a sec...John McCain was born on a US military facility so technically he was born in the US. Sorry sport, that dog won't hunt!

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