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Nov 15, 2014 15:08:17   #
dkeysser Loc: Minneapolis
 
I want to pick a new system, mirror-less, interchangeable lenses, best possible image quality, mostly for nature and landscape (travel), and some photo-journalism. I am down to the Samsung NEX300 and the Fuji Pro-X1. Both have APS-C sensors (should be better than MFT?) and interchangeable lenses. If you ignore the price difference, what do you think?

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Nov 15, 2014 15:16:45   #
imagemeister Loc: mid east Florida
 
Not that familar with those two - but I will say, for the money it is very hard to beat the Sony A3000 C/W 18-55 and add Sigma 19,30, and 60mm 2.8 lenses for even better IQ - ALL for about $900.

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Nov 15, 2014 15:27:39   #
dkeysser Loc: Minneapolis
 
Thanks, I will check it out

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Nov 15, 2014 15:28:52   #
SonnyE Loc: Communist California, USA
 
dkeysser wrote:
I want to pick a new system, mirror-less, interchangeable lenses, best possible image quality, mostly for nature and landscape (travel), and some photo-journalism. I am down to the Samsung NEX300 and the Fuji Pro-X1. Both have APS-C sensors (should be better than MFT?) and interchangeable lenses. If you ignore the price difference, what do you think?


I think my lens box would definitely dictate what I'd do.
I wouldn't want to start over. I'd look toward compatibility.

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Nov 15, 2014 15:59:00   #
f8lee Loc: New Mexico
 
dkeysser wrote:
I want to pick a new system, mirror-less, interchangeable lenses, best possible image quality, mostly for nature and landscape (travel), and some photo-journalism. I am down to the Samsung NEX300 and the Fuji Pro-X1. Both have APS-C sensors (should be better than MFT?) and interchangeable lenses. If you ignore the price difference, what do you think?


Can't speak to the Samsung, but the X-T1 is an excellent camera so long as you don't need very fast autofocus in low light. The EVF is otherwise really nice in that it displays the image more-or-less as it will appear when shot - if you dial in a 2 stop overexposure the view in the EVF brightens accordingly. But for landscape type work, where you may well use an ND filter, know that the really nice aspect of this is that even if you put a 9 stop filter on the lens (which you can't see through with your naked eye) the image in the viewfinder appears as if there is no filter on at all! Obviously when you take the shot the lower shutter speed will likely create blur etc., but for framing purposes this is a great function.

The camera itself is very well built, and Fuji lenses are generally excellent (I just got the 18-135 so let me know if you'd be interested in an 18-55 and a 55-200).

You don't mention whether you have actually handled these cameras - ergonomics plays a big role and if you have only compared spec sheets and reviews do yourself a favor and handle both of them to see if one feels "more natural" to you.

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Nov 15, 2014 15:59:32   #
dkeysser Loc: Minneapolis
 
Good point, but I am starting from scratch. I have several other systems, including a Nikon D7100 and several DX lenses, but I want to small portable lightweight (but high quality) mirror-less system to complement the Nikon. I also have a Sony RX100m3, which is superb, not limited in its scope.

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Nov 15, 2014 16:02:46   #
f8lee Loc: New Mexico
 
dkeysser wrote:
Good point, but I am starting from scratch. I have several other systems, including a Nikon D7100 and several DX lenses, but I want to small portable lightweight (but high quality) mirror-less system to complement the Nikon. I also have a Sony RX100m3, which is superb, not limited in its scope.


FWIW, I have used my Nikkor lenses on the XT-1 with an inexpensive adapter - of course they don't auto-focus nor do they communicate with the body, and you have to set the Fuji to "Shoot without lens" = Yes in order to get the camera to take a shot, but in a pinch it is handy.

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Nov 15, 2014 16:24:47   #
rpavich Loc: West Virginia
 
dkeysser wrote:
I want to pick a new system, mirror-less, interchangeable lenses, best possible image quality, mostly for nature and landscape (travel), and some photo-journalism. I am down to the Samsung NEX300 and the Fuji Pro-X1. Both have APS-C sensors (should be better than MFT?) and interchangeable lenses. If you ignore the price difference, what do you think?


The X-Pro1 is getting a bit long in the tooth and and you can do better if you desire to stick with the X-Camera system.

The X-T1 is the flagship right now and I hear a rumble about the X-Pro2 coming out in 2015.

The X-T1 is a great camera...top notch. I have no experience with any other mirrorless system.

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Nov 15, 2014 16:27:22   #
mtparker Loc: Cape Charles & Springfield, Virginia
 
I'm not convinced that mirrorless systems are robust enough for many experienced DSLR users to commit just now.

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Nov 15, 2014 16:29:05   #
rpavich Loc: West Virginia
 
mtparker wrote:
I'm not convinced that mirrorless systems are robust enough for many experienced DSLR users to commit just now.


That's a pretty generalized statement. There are pretty robust mirrorless systems that pros shoot for their livelihood and there are lame DSLR systems also.

It depends on so many factors I can't even see making a generalized statement about it that has any meaning.

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Nov 15, 2014 16:32:49   #
Cdouthitt Loc: Traverse City, MI
 
Don't dismiss the m4/3 sensor. At least compare an em1 or em10. The body is only half of your decision. The other half is the lenses. m4/3's lenses are stellar and much smaller overal than fuji and Sony.

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Nov 15, 2014 16:35:45   #
Cdouthitt Loc: Traverse City, MI
 
Of course if you are doing mostly landscape work, it's tough to beat an a7r...it's just the price that's hard to swallow.

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Nov 15, 2014 16:37:34   #
mtparker Loc: Cape Charles & Springfield, Virginia
 
It is a rather general statement and I stand by it. There are some very good systems out there but none have the selection of bodies and lenses that the better DSLR systems have.

I know too many pros and experienced shooters who have gone to mirrorless and later back to DSLRs. I'm not ready to commit.

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Nov 15, 2014 16:38:19   #
minniev Loc: MIssissippi
 
dkeysser wrote:
I want to pick a new system, mirror-less, interchangeable lenses, best possible image quality, mostly for nature and landscape (travel), and some photo-journalism. I am down to the Samsung NEX300 and the Fuji Pro-X1. Both have APS-C sensors (should be better than MFT?) and interchangeable lenses. If you ignore the price difference, what do you think?


Though I don't have either of those brands, I am a mirrorless user who did a bunch of research before going with m43. I encourage you to study the lenses for each system you're considering and try to handle the camera before deciding. How a camera looks on paper is different from how it feels in hand. The size, variety, quality and price of lenses is very important as well.

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Nov 15, 2014 16:39:12   #
josephnl Loc: Irvine,, CA
 
dkeysser wrote:
I want to pick a new system, mirror-less, interchangeable lenses, best possible image quality, mostly for nature and landscape (travel), and some photo-journalism. I am down to the Samsung NEX300 and the Fuji Pro-X1. Both have APS-C sensors (should be better than MFT?) and interchangeable lenses. If you ignore the price difference, what do you think?


I recently bought a Sony Alpha a6000 after watching several reviews on YouTube. The reviews sold me, and I love my a6000. It's a lot of camera for the price. Suggest you watch a few of the video reviews...starting with this one.
http://youtu.be/0-68Owv7Zt8

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