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Jan 20, 2012 18:35:19   #
MtnMan Loc: ID
 
Hi, David

I knew that was your intent and appreciated your input. You clearly showed how a little tilt can make a big difference. I at least would not have appreciated that had you not shown us.

You don't need to apologize. I felt the OP was clear in the posting that he was interested in soliciting input. After all, this forum is all about visual images. I compliment and thank your for your efforts on sharing with us.

Perhaps as this forum grows separate areas need to be set aside for those of us who are here to actively learn and those who have other interests. I think it can accomodate all...but not maybe in the same threads.

Regards,
Larry Leach



DavidT wrote:
First, since I am the guilty party that edited the OP's photo, I sincerely apologize if I caused any ill feelings in doing so. I am relatively new here, so I wasn't aware of the rules for editing others photos (It was one of the last rules - way at the bottom).

I did not edit the photo with the intent of say, "See how great my version is than yours." I was trying to show how much difference it makes when you tilt the camera a little. If I had just said it, I don't think anyone would understand. "A picture is worth..." you know what I mean.

Secondly, I'm sorry to have caused the war that hi-jacked the original question. With that, I hope we can get along with the real question being asked.
First, since I am the guilty party that edited the... (show quote)

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Jan 20, 2012 20:28:01   #
melphoto60
 
on a webnir rick samon said if you think you need 3 lights use one light if you think you need 2 lights use one light if you had the time I would have used one light then built up to 2/3 lights, I think men are better photographed with a harsher light, would have tried a single light 75-90 dgs then seen if that worked, then put a reflector to the darker side of face to bring just a little light to open the shadows, to get out the wrinkles try an iron on the background before setting it up. A suggestion would have to have him hold the hard hat.

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Jan 21, 2012 01:23:27   #
BGenie Loc: Sacramento, CA
 
lleach wrote:
Oh dear. I shouldn't but I will apologize to others for this person. He/she can go their way. Because I saw there were some here with that view I added the tag line to my posts. As noted I really appreciate visual feedback.



Wow your arrogance and disrespect of others is ASTONISHING! Please take this back into PM where it belongs.
...and you owe the OP an apology for YOUR childish behavior. I already apologized for mine.

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Jan 21, 2012 01:27:52   #
BGenie Loc: Sacramento, CA
 
RobertinRI wrote:
Let me see if I can get this thread back on track.
There have been some mention of the shadows under the brim of his hard hat. It would not seem to me that the goal of lighting would be to produce a shadow-free face. Such an arrangement would lack modeling and fullness. Referring back to my Snowdon book, I see many portraits with dramatic shadows, sometimes deeply shadowing parts of the face.

I have another question which I will save 'til I have a good example of my own.


I don't have an example of an object, like a hat, creating shadows on a persons' face, but there is this thread:

http://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-12040-1.html

...where the OP took a self-portrait with stark lighting, leaving half his face in shadow. Even though other aspects of the portrait could have used a little tweaking, the lighting effect worked IMHO.

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Jan 21, 2012 06:08:32   #
Ted155 Loc: Melbourne Australia
 
You do not have t spend a fortune on Backgrounds. Buy either a white or grey backdrop and change colours by using lights and gels dirctly onto the background.

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Jan 21, 2012 16:01:13   #
BGenie Loc: Sacramento, CA
 
Ted155 wrote:
You do not have t spend a fortune on Backgrounds. Buy either a white or grey backdrop and change colours by using lights and gels directly onto the background.


Do you have an example? or a 'how to'? Maybe a tutorial link on YouTube... I'm interested in learning that technique as well. Thanks

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Jan 21, 2012 20:38:29   #
Lucian Loc: From Wales, living in Ohio
 
Ummm, Bgenie, 10x20ft painters cloth costs $12.99 at our home depot, hardly a huge expense and I'm sure lots of people would enjoy making their own backdrops. It will dry over night so no need to replace anything while waiting etc. as you mentioned.

While on that point, the backdrop should add to the photo, not be the featured subject of a photo of someone. We are not talking about a vendors pic on ebay who sells backdrops, here, we are commenting on the original image shown with the hard hat landlord, which had a very brightly lit backdrop.

You can paint both sides of your own painter's muslin drop cloth too, so you have 2 for that price as opposed to spending over $70 for the ones on a web site, plus postage for the same thing, all be it already painted. Painting them is not rocket science and can be as quick as 15 mins., hardly anything to worry about in time spent really.

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Jan 21, 2012 23:45:01   #
BGenie Loc: Sacramento, CA
 
MtnMan wrote:

Perhaps as this forum grows separate areas need to be set aside for those of us who are here to actively learn and those who have other interests. I think it can accomodate all...but not maybe in the same threads.

Regards,
Larry Leach




I noticed you changed your profile name and photo. Is that so you can try to create a new identity as Rhino tried to do?

I have already suggested to ADMIN that they create separate sections for people who want to be photographers, and people who want to be graphic artists. There is a huge difference, and we are constantly butting heads in here.

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Jan 22, 2012 01:12:25   #
Starlet Loc: Las Cruces, New Mexico
 
Nice shot. The man looks very natural, comfortable, and at relaxed. His clothes and face seem to have a way of trying to tell the viewer something. Maybe it is my imagination as I am really new at this.
STAR

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Jan 22, 2012 04:43:30   #
Ted155 Loc: Melbourne Australia
 
BGEnie the utube address is: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JDGn4VzEOlU. not my idea but found it on youtube. Many other background videos in general area. just search "photography backgrounds"
Hope it helps.

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Jan 22, 2012 04:48:34   #
Ted155 Loc: Melbourne Australia
 
I like the idea of a slight tilt of the camera. All I had heard about tilting the camera was to exaggerate the tilt so viewers knew it was intentional.
Great idea. Will try it next time I attempt portraits

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