Portrait comments
Jan 19, 2012 22:24:48 #
Lucian
Loc: From Wales, living in Ohio
NOPE ! It would not be cheaper "than" buying one for $35 plus shipping, if you went to, say, Walmart's scrap paint section and bought three small cans, may cost you about $18 and you'd have some fun and learn how to make changes in colours for it, in the future. When you got fed up with the colours you created on that first ont, that is.
As I had already mentioned you should not allow much light to fall on your background, I fully agree with what the Queen's cousin said way back when in that Harpers article. It was Harpers wasn't it?
As I had already mentioned you should not allow much light to fall on your background, I fully agree with what the Queen's cousin said way back when in that Harpers article. It was Harpers wasn't it?
Jan 19, 2012 22:35:19 #
Lucian gave good info. A hairlight separates the head from the background. The white helmet makes it unnecessary. Bald heads often make it of no use. It is not so much the "hair" part, it is the need to separate from a darker background.
NEVER allow a subject to cross hands over the crotch. It is called a "fig leaf" pose and is unattractive and draws the viewer eye to the area. For head and shoulder portraits, a posing table is very handy to solve the hand issue.
Your basic lighting is quite good
NEVER allow a subject to cross hands over the crotch. It is called a "fig leaf" pose and is unattractive and draws the viewer eye to the area. For head and shoulder portraits, a posing table is very handy to solve the hand issue.
Your basic lighting is quite good
Jan 19, 2012 23:17:46 #
[quote=lleach]Nice ideas. Is there a way to avoid the halo?
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A trick I learned quite by accident is to shoot the background separately, give it the gaussian blur, make a mask and paint the blurred background into the portrait photo. If done carefully, it completely eliminates the halo that seems to occur when using a blur of the original portrait photo as a mask.
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A trick I learned quite by accident is to shoot the background separately, give it the gaussian blur, make a mask and paint the blurred background into the portrait photo. If done carefully, it completely eliminates the halo that seems to occur when using a blur of the original portrait photo as a mask.
Jan 20, 2012 02:35:28 #
RobertinRI wrote:
I was trying out my new lights today, and my landl... (show quote)
Personally, I think the helmet did not require a hair light because part of the white is blown out. You could also have the hair light come from directly above him straight down and there would be none of it falling on the background. The function of a hair light in this type of portrait is more to give a glisten to the top of the hair like the sun would and is sometimes done with a "pin" light that may not have much more power than a big LED flashlight and is narrowly focused on the head.
I can't be sure, because some clarity is lost in reducing a shot to 72dpi for the Internet, but it seems that your focus may be slightly on the wrong part of his body. The background seems to be in focus but his hands look a little like they're on the fringe of the front focal area and a tiny bit fuzzy. I may be wrong on that.
Otherwise, not a bad first attempt!
Jan 20, 2012 09:32:32 #
Thanks for that great idea.
So I guess the halo came from blurring the image along with the background.
[quote=Lmarc]
So I guess the halo came from blurring the image along with the background.
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lleach wrote:
Nice ideas. Is there a way to avoid the halo?
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A trick I learned quite by accident is to shoot the background separately, give it the gaussian blur, make a mask and paint the blurred background into the portrait photo. If done carefully, it completely eliminates the halo that seems to occur when using a blur of the original portrait photo as a mask.
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A trick I learned quite by accident is to shoot the background separately, give it the gaussian blur, make a mask and paint the blurred background into the portrait photo. If done carefully, it completely eliminates the halo that seems to occur when using a blur of the original portrait photo as a mask.
Jan 20, 2012 10:02:33 #
If that is your view I recommend you do not post photos in the discussion. Visual commenting is a fabulous way to get ideas across. Limiting it seems to miss the whole point of this WEB site.
Most people won't read your tag line. I added one to mine just to make it clear...but I don't expect many to see it.
Most people won't read your tag line. I added one to mine just to make it clear...but I don't expect many to see it.
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Please don't post-process people's photos without permission.
The OP is asking about technical issue in setting up a shot, not how to "fix" this test shot.
Please don't post-process people's photos without permission.
The OP is asking about technical issue in setting up a shot, not how to "fix" this test shot.
Jan 20, 2012 13:53:02 #
Lucian wrote:
NOPE ! It would not be cheaper "than" bu... (show quote)
Riiiight... and another painters drop cloth to replace the one he is using temporarily, is going to cost him how much? And the time spent is worth how much? Obviously you do not value time.
The photos of backdrops on Amazon are obviously photographed with a light on them, so you can actually see what you are buying, not just a blur. They are selling the backdrop, not the girl, therefore the backdrop is lit-up (duh).
Just because you have a technique that you like, does not mean that is the only technique to achieve an effect, NOR is it always the best way to accomplish something.
Jan 20, 2012 13:59:02 #
lleach wrote:
If that is your view I recommend you do not post p... (show quote)
Mmmmmm. he was just addressing the admin's stated rule of no downloading and editing any pix w/o specific request by the owner.....don't be so hard on them.
Jan 20, 2012 14:12:17 #
tkhphotography wrote:
quote=lleach If that is your view I recommend you... (show quote)
Thanks TKH, I'll address this to lleach in a PM so as not to embarrass him/her, and so we don't hijack this thread.
Jan 20, 2012 16:25:22 #
You don't have to worry about embarrassing me.
If you have been here a while you will know that most enjoy the visual feedback. If you don't then you have several options. One is to not post your pics. The one you do not have is to tell others what they may or may not do.
I have noticed from time to time the site admin seeking to get controlling on that point of view too. If it annoys me enough I'll exercise my option to go elsewhere.
If you have been here a while you will know that most enjoy the visual feedback. If you don't then you have several options. One is to not post your pics. The one you do not have is to tell others what they may or may not do.
I have noticed from time to time the site admin seeking to get controlling on that point of view too. If it annoys me enough I'll exercise my option to go elsewhere.
BGenie wrote:
quote=tkhphotography quote=lleach If that is you... (show quote)
Jan 20, 2012 17:06:56 #
lleach wrote:
You don't have to worry about embarrassing me.
If you have been here a while you will know that most enjoy the visual feedback. If you don't then you have several options. One is to not post your pics. The one you do not have is to tell others what they may or may not do.
I have noticed from time to time the site admin seeking to get controlling on that point of view too. If it annoys me enough I'll exercise my option to go elsewhere.
If you have been here a while you will know that most enjoy the visual feedback. If you don't then you have several options. One is to not post your pics. The one you do not have is to tell others what they may or may not do.
I have noticed from time to time the site admin seeking to get controlling on that point of view too. If it annoys me enough I'll exercise my option to go elsewhere.
My apologies to the OP for this hijack...
To lleach,
You are welcome to leave then, since you are too disrespectful to follow the sites rules. Admin dosen't enforce their own rules well enough if you ask the emotionally mature people in here. I mean, how lazy and disrespectful can you be to steal someone elses' art and change it to suit yourself without asking permission first?
It is not up to you to determine that 'most' enjoy having their art stolen and manipulated, therefore it's ok to do it indiscriminately. It's NOT.
I did not TELL you, or anyone to do anything. I asked to PLEASE respect the sites' rules and not PP other people's photos without permission. Did your mother teach you the word "please"?... seems not.
Jan 20, 2012 17:18:09 #
Oh dear. I shouldn't but I will apologize to others for this person. He/she can go their way. Because I saw there were some here with that view I added the tag line to my posts. As noted I really appreciate visual feedback.
It they don't appreciate visual feedback it is OK with me...they don't have to post their pics.
I guess he/she didn't notice that I didn't edit the photo in this thread...because of the sensitivity some seem to have I do wait for the poster to ask or ask before doing so. But I haven't been appointed to enforce the rules so wouldn't upset a fun thread by doing so.
As noted I appreciated the posting of and edit by the person willing to do some work share their ideas and by the feedback we got from discussing it.
It they don't appreciate visual feedback it is OK with me...they don't have to post their pics.
I guess he/she didn't notice that I didn't edit the photo in this thread...because of the sensitivity some seem to have I do wait for the poster to ask or ask before doing so. But I haven't been appointed to enforce the rules so wouldn't upset a fun thread by doing so.
As noted I appreciated the posting of and edit by the person willing to do some work share their ideas and by the feedback we got from discussing it.
BGenie wrote:
quote=lleach You don't have to worry about embarr... (show quote)
Jan 20, 2012 17:35:10 #
Let me see if I can get this thread back on track.
There have been some mention of the shadows under the brim of his hard hat. It would not seem to me that the goal of lighting would be to produce a shadow-free face. Such an arrangement would lack modeling and fullness. Referring back to my Snowdon book, I see many portraits with dramatic shadows, sometimes deeply shadowing parts of the face.
I have another question which I will save 'til I have a good example of my own.
There have been some mention of the shadows under the brim of his hard hat. It would not seem to me that the goal of lighting would be to produce a shadow-free face. Such an arrangement would lack modeling and fullness. Referring back to my Snowdon book, I see many portraits with dramatic shadows, sometimes deeply shadowing parts of the face.
I have another question which I will save 'til I have a good example of my own.
Jan 20, 2012 18:10:41 #
First, since I am the guilty party that edited the OP's photo, I sincerely apologize if I caused any ill feelings in doing so. I am relatively new here, so I wasn't aware of the rules for editing others photos (It was one of the last rules - way at the bottom).
I did not edit the photo with the intent of say, "See how great my version is than yours." I was trying to show how much difference it makes when you tilt the camera a little. If I had just said it, I don't think anyone would understand. "A picture is worth..." you know what I mean.
Secondly, I'm sorry to have caused the war that hi-jacked the original question. With that, I hope we can get along with the real question being asked.
I did not edit the photo with the intent of say, "See how great my version is than yours." I was trying to show how much difference it makes when you tilt the camera a little. If I had just said it, I don't think anyone would understand. "A picture is worth..." you know what I mean.
Secondly, I'm sorry to have caused the war that hi-jacked the original question. With that, I hope we can get along with the real question being asked.
Jan 20, 2012 18:28:27 #
David, I don't have a problem with anything your have said or shown.
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