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Nov 9, 2013 16:43:51   #
Hankwt Loc: kingsville ontario
 
Ive been seriously thinking of getting the CC monthly plan I am currently a user of Lightroom via my sons computer however he is leaving home to stake out his future in the world. This would of course put me as a new user category which is I believe 29.95 month
My question is will this subscription always be 29.95 or does it revert to 9.99 at some point ?
Ive looked around Adobes site for this info however sometimes find answers there is like finding the meaning of life.
Just curious is it possible to still buy say CS6 still from somewhere and still have it registered to work or will Adobe just nix your request to register. Im old school and like owning what I pay for but if not possible I would go the cloud route. I have a love hate affair with change but somtes we have to accept the inevitable.

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Nov 9, 2013 16:57:25   #
speters Loc: Grangeville/Idaho
 
Hankwt wrote:
Ive been seriously thinking of getting the CC monthly plan I am currently a user of Lightroom via my sons computer however he is leaving home to stake out his future in the world. This would of course put me as a new user category which is I believe 29.95 month
My question is will this subscription always be 29.95 or does it revert to 9.99 at some point ?
Ive looked around Adobes site for this info however sometimes find answers there is like finding the meaning of life.
Just curious is it possible to still buy say CS6 still from somewhere and still have it registered to work or will Adobe just nix your request to register. Im old school and like owning what I pay for but if not possible I would go the cloud route. I have a love hate affair with change but somtes we have to accept the inevitable.
Ive been seriously thinking of getting the CC mont... (show quote)

It will only be $9.99 if you already own CS3 or later, then it will become available immediately and will not change, unless you unsubscribe or miss paying for it. In such circumstances you will not be able to get that rate again!

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Nov 9, 2013 17:08:28   #
copprtop99 Loc: Witness Protection
 
You can still buy the boxed set, but the updates will be bug fixes only with all new features available though CC. I chose the CS6 boxed set route figuring over the next year I'll find replacement programs...

Warning, it is tough to find the Creative Suite boxed set purchase page. You may have to call sales.

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Nov 9, 2013 17:27:07   #
bunuweld Loc: Arizona
 
Hankwt wrote:
Ive been seriously thinking of getting the CC monthly plan I am currently a user of Lightroom via my sons computer however he is leaving home to stake out his future in the world. This would of course put me as a new user category which is I believe 29.95 month
My question is will this subscription always be 29.95 or does it revert to 9.99 at some point ?
Ive looked around Adobes site for this info however sometimes find answers there is like finding the meaning of life.
Just curious is it possible to still buy say CS6 still from somewhere and still have it registered to work or will Adobe just nix your request to register. Im old school and like owning what I pay for but if not possible I would go the cloud route. I have a love hate affair with change but somtes we have to accept the inevitable.
Ive been seriously thinking of getting the CC mont... (show quote)


The only possibility of its going down in rental price from 29.95 is if some similar program develops to a competitive quality that forces Adobe's greed to lower their rental price. That will not be easy because many long-time users will continue to use Adobe just out of habit. I probably am an exception because, although a very-long-time Adobe user, I don't appreciate companies that put monopolistic tactics as the main weapon for giant profits. I will never go for the rental and, if Adobe ends support for my current CS6. I will move to another program rather than chaining myself to an exploitative rental.

GIMP is close to Adobe in sophistication and a free download. I would go for it unless you have lots of money and don't mind subjecting your credit card to regular payments.

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Nov 9, 2013 18:27:46   #
amadjuster Loc: Amarillo, TX
 
speters wrote:
It will only be $9.99 if you already own CS3 or later, then it will become available immediately and will not change, unless you unsubscribe or miss paying for it. In such circumstances you will not be able to get that rate again!


This offer lasts until 12/31/13. You get PhotoShop CC and Lightroom 5.2. All you need is an old copy of PhotoShop CS3 or newer.

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Nov 9, 2013 18:39:01   #
amadjuster Loc: Amarillo, TX
 
bunuweld wrote:
The only possibility of its going down in rental price from 29.95 is if some similar program develops to a competitive quality that forces Adobe's greed to lower their rental price. That will not be easy because many long-time users will continue to use Adobe just out of habit. I probably am an exception because, although a very-long-time Adobe user, I don't appreciate companies that put monopolistic tactics as the main weapon for giant profits. I will never go for the rental and, if Adobe ends support for my current CS6. I will move to another program rather than chaining myself to an exploitative rental.

GIMP is close to Adobe in sophistication and a free download. I would go for it unless you have lots of money and don't mind subjecting your credit card to regular payments.
The only possibility of its going down in rental p... (show quote)

I'm now paying $9.99 a month for Photoshop CC and Lightroom 5.2. That is going to be less than what I paid to upgrade PhotoShop every time a new version came out. Plus, I get every upgrade for both programs as long as I keep up the payments.

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Nov 9, 2013 18:53:38   #
Hankwt Loc: kingsville ontario
 
$ 9.99 is definately a bargain At 29.99 is a big chunk 360.00 year with nothing to show. Like renting an apartment as opposed to mortgaging your first home albeit a much smaller scale. Is it all relative ?? I just think we need more options but This topic im sure has been beaten to death. Hey Mr Adobe ... I will meet you half way 19.99. With an option to buy !!

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Nov 9, 2013 21:03:14   #
GPoyner Loc: North Dakota
 
Take a look at Corel Paintshop Pro if you don't want to do the cloud.

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Nov 10, 2013 07:19:54   #
russelray Loc: La Mesa CA
 
Hankwt wrote:
Ive been seriously thinking of getting the CC monthly plan I am currently a user of Lightroom via my sons computer however he is leaving home to stake out his future in the world. This would of course put me as a new user category which is I believe 29.95 month
My question is will this subscription always be 29.95 or does it revert to 9.99 at some point ?
Ive looked around Adobes site for this info however sometimes find answers there is like finding the meaning of life.
Just curious is it possible to still buy say CS6 still from somewhere and still have it registered to work or will Adobe just nix your request to register. Im old school and like owning what I pay for but if not possible I would go the cloud route. I have a love hate affair with change but somtes we have to accept the inevitable.
Ive been seriously thinking of getting the CC mont... (show quote)

For some reason, "old school" people don't seem to understand that they have never owned software. All they have owned is a license to use the software. The software belongs to the software company.

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Nov 10, 2013 07:31:56   #
russelray Loc: La Mesa CA
 
bunuweld wrote:
The only possibility of its going down in rental price from 29.95 is if some similar program develops to a competitive quality that forces Adobe's greed to lower their rental price. That will not be easy because many long-time users will continue to use Adobe just out of habit. I probably am an exception because, although a very-long-time Adobe user, I don't appreciate companies that put monopolistic tactics as the main weapon for giant profits. I will never go for the rental and, if Adobe ends support for my current CS6. I will move to another program rather than chaining myself to an exploitative rental.

GIMP is close to Adobe in sophistication and a free download. I would go for it unless you have lots of money and don't mind subjecting your credit card to regular payments.
The only possibility of its going down in rental p... (show quote)

I think every software company on the planet will be in subscription mode within five years. A few might still offer their old, outdated programs for sale.

Microsoft has taken Office to the rental cloud (it's called Office 365). Adobe has also. WordPress has a rental cloud, which I also use.

These rental programs will become more and more popular because no one has to shell out big bucks at a specific point in time. $9.99 (or $19.99, or $29.99) a month fits more easily into a monthly budget than does Photoshop's previous all-now price of $699 for CS6. When one adds in upgrades at $199 every 15-18 months, it should be obvious to everyone that the Cloud is the way to go.

Businesses will find (and are finding) that even though the Cloud is offered at a lower price, the fact that a small amount fits more easily into people's budgets means that more people will be signing up. People who have never used Photoshop because of its cost, other than an occasionally free 30-day trial, apparently are signing up in droves. The only people who don't seem to be able to do basic mathematics are the "old school" people who somehow think that they have always owned the software they bought at a store. Nope. All they have owned is a license to use the software. The software company makes no guarantee about how long the software will work as technology continues to advance. If they are still selling the software for which you have a license, they'll help you set it up on a new computer. If they have moved on to new versions that are compatible with new technology, you'll be out of luck.

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Nov 10, 2013 07:33:19   #
Jayne Loc: Wisconsin
 
Still using my CS6 and still too upset with Adobe to discuss. May even drop my Lightroom......

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Nov 10, 2013 08:03:36   #
davidcaley Loc: Utah
 
Adobe allows installation of LR & CS6 on 2 computers. Could you not install the progams to your computer, then subscribe to the $9 CC?

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Nov 10, 2013 08:06:44   #
djlouden Loc: Ocala, Florida
 
russelray wrote:
For some reason, "old school" people don't seem to understand that they have never owned software. All they have owned is a license to use the software. The software belongs to the software company.


I'm an old school coot. I used 80 column punch cards on our company's first "computer" and paid the outlandish royalties to IBM because that's the way it was. Along the way new and improved ideas came along. Symphony gave way to Lotus 1-2-3 to Excel. Not one of these companies ever asked for me to return my licensed software. There has always been an implied permission to use as long as you wish.

I pay $350 a month license fee at two locations for software that is essential to my business. I understand this model. I walked through that door fully informed with eyes open. The terms and conditions for using this product were laid out in advance with no surprises along the way.

Even though I pay Adobe's ransom, my objection is the manner in which they pulled off this entire subscribe or screw you program. As to the price being presently charged by Adobe, there will be a point at which there is a diminishing return for their products. Be prepared it will come sooner than later.

And to you Mr. Pompous donkey CaptainC, I can whine if I want that's what this thread was about in the first place. If you don't like whining, go start a thread about whining.

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Nov 10, 2013 08:13:39   #
russelray Loc: La Mesa CA
 
djlouden wrote:
I'm an old school coot. I used 80 column punch cards on our company's first "computer" and paid the outlandish royalties to IBM because that's the way it was. Along the way new and improved ideas came along. Symphony gave way to Lotus 1-2-3 to Excel. Not one of these companies ever asked for me to return my licensed software. There has always been an implied permission to use as long as you wish.

Not only as long as you wish, but as long as the software works. No guarantee that the software will work into perpetuity.

djlouden wrote:
Even though I pay Adobe's ransom, my objection is the manner in which they pulled off this entire subscribe or screw you program. As to the price being presently charged by Adobe, there will be a point at which there is a diminishing return for their products. Be prepared it will come sooner than later.

It's entirely possible. Heck, I never thought General Motors would go bankrupt and that my GM stock would be worth absolutely nothing! Zero! Zip! That's life. As my wise old grandmother often said, "Life is a journey, not a destination. Enjoy the journey!"

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Nov 10, 2013 08:22:25   #
djlouden Loc: Ocala, Florida
 
russelray wrote:
It's entirely possible. Heck, I never thought General Motors would go bankrupt and that my GM stock would be worth absolutely nothing! Zero! Zip! That's life. As my wise old grandmother often said, "Life is a journey, not a destination. Enjoy the journey!"


Indeed! I remember well my disastrous Enron and Worldcom stocks as well as a few real estate flops along the way. Yet I'm still here and can afford not a few toys along the way. Happy shooting.

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