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Sep 22, 2013 10:09:26   #
pbearperry Loc: Massachusetts
 
Why is it that politicians love talking about gun control,but nothing about criminal control?We are led to believe that guns are responsible for most crimes and that simply is not true.

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Sep 22, 2013 10:15:09   #
Robert Graybeal Loc: Myrtle Beach
 
You are a smart man, politicians are not.

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Sep 22, 2013 10:15:29   #
davidrb Loc: Half way there on the 45th Parallel
 
pbearperry wrote:
Why is it that politicians love talking about gun control,but nothing about criminal control?We are led to believe that guns are responsible for most crimes and that simply is not true.


8-) 8-) 8-) politicians and guns have one thing in common: neither can think ... :thumbdown: :thumbdown: :thumbdown:

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Sep 22, 2013 10:22:37   #
guts Loc: texas.
 
Politicians like guns when their body guards carry them to protect their sorry asses.

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Sep 22, 2013 10:34:09   #
jiminee1 Loc: S.E.MA
 
They never enforce the laws they have now(and there are quite a few) It only makes lawmakers more holier than thou when it comes time to makiing a headline for themselves. Most politicians are self servant and could care 2 shits about anyone else.
guts wrote:
Politicians like guns when their body guards carry them to protect their sorry asses.

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Sep 22, 2013 11:11:34   #
Frank T Loc: New York, NY
 
Our efforts at "criminal control" have resulted in the largest prison population in the world. Most of those in prison aren't violent offenders, they're there for dealing drugs and in particular marijuana.
Decriminalizing marijuana is the first step but just like every other thing the prison lobby, (yes there is one) stands in the way because prisons are big business.
the other thought that guns have nothing to do with gun violence is practically laughable if it weren't so sad.
We really need to start somewhere and I would suggest we start by taking guns away from the insane. I don't think any reasonable person can argue with that.

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Sep 22, 2013 13:08:26   #
pbearperry Loc: Massachusetts
 
Frank T wrote:
Our efforts at "criminal control" have resulted in the largest prison population in the world. Most of those in prison aren't violent offenders, they're there for dealing drugs and in particular marijuana.
Decriminalizing marijuana is the first step but just like every other thing the prison lobby, (yes there is one) stands in the way because prisons are big business.
the other thought that guns have nothing to do with gun violence is practically laughable if it weren't so sad.
We really need to start somewhere and I would suggest we start by taking guns away from the insane. I don't think any reasonable person can argue with that.
Our efforts at "criminal control" have r... (show quote)


As usual FrankT you make statements that just are not true.Most prisoners in prison are not there for smoking pot .What puts them in jail usually are related crimes to fuel their drug use.You must make statements like this to piss off folks,because you can't really be that stupid.Your statemants as usual are baseless and have to stats to back them up.How did you get so bent?

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Sep 22, 2013 13:57:01   #
Bram boy Loc: Vancouver Island B.C. Canada
 
if your goverement could legalize smoke dope. and collect the tax . with out getting all the bleeding hearts upset . they would do that in a flash .
look at the amount of damage that ciggerete do . they have killed thousands upon thousands of your citizens . and what do you do about it , nothing nadda, zip. but your all aganst weed . which is no worse than booze. I take that back . I smoked pot quit a few times while driving . and never had a problem . i drove a few times while impaired by alcohol .
lost a couple good cars . thank god that poles and ditches are not human . they will never take smokes and booze off the market there's too much in tax being made . the population should get togeather and demand leagle dope . the Gov , will love you for it , more tax . and it would clean up all the under world dope problems problems . cartels , dealers, hells angel main income , lots of robbires killings . and who cares what happens to the addicts . they eather kill themselves , or smarten up . other countries
could grow the stuff . or farmers in the US could grow it . it would so plentiful , that the price would be about the same as wheat or corn .

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Sep 22, 2013 14:20:10   #
Frank T Loc: New York, NY
 
pbear,
Let's say you're right. If you are, then it would stand to reason that if people could grow their own pot or buy it at the liquor store, the turf wars for dealership rights would disappear.
Just as prohibition gave us organized crime so has marijuana. Once we legalized alcohol, the violent crime associated with it went away.
Right now, marijuana is classified as a schedule 1 drug which means there is no legitimate use for it. Yet, doctors are prescribing it so it must have a legitimate use in medicine. If nothing else, it should be taken off that list.
Might mellow out a few people on this site who are wrapped way to tight anyway.
We can learn for the past or be condemned to repeat it.

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Sep 22, 2013 15:15:16   #
Danilo Loc: Las Vegas
 
pbearperry wrote:
Why is it that politicians love talking about gun control,but nothing about criminal control?We are led to believe that guns are responsible for most crimes and that simply is not true.


Gun control is easier than criminal control, from a legislative view, and makes a politician look almost as good. And it furthers a long-term goal of the left-of-center crowd.
A mechanic will occasionally admit a plumber is a better solution to a particular problem than he; a politician can NEVER do likewise.

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Sep 22, 2013 15:56:30   #
Bram boy Loc: Vancouver Island B.C. Canada
 
Danilo wrote:
Gun control is easier than criminal control, from a legislative view, and makes a politician look almost as good. And it furthers a long-term goal of the left-of-center crowd.
A mechanic will occasionally admit a plumber is a better solution to a particular problem than he; a politician can NEVER do likewise.


we have gun control here . now only the bad guys have hand guns. it is so hard to get a lic. for a hand gun in canada , that most people who try just give up . our gov, wasted two billion $ trying to bring in registration for long guns . but that got scrapped .it's no wonder, there was amnesty to register your long gun . no question asked . needless to say , I know people that registered there 30.06 maculla chain saw there 308 black and decker . some even regerested deer tractor,s 30-30 , snow mobeiles . and they got there card in the mail back to them with that stuff printed on it as there regerested
long gun . with phony serial no. of course .

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Sep 22, 2013 16:36:09   #
pbearperry Loc: Massachusetts
 
Frank T wrote:
pbear,
Let's say you're right. If you are, then it would stand to reason that if people could grow their own pot or buy it at the liquor store, the turf wars for dealership rights would disappear.
Just as prohibition gave us organized crime so has marijuana. Once we legalized alcohol, the violent crime associated with it went away.
Right now, marijuana is classified as a schedule 1 drug which means there is no legitimate use for it. Yet, doctors are prescribing it so it must have a legitimate use in medicine. If nothing else, it should be taken off that list.
Might mellow out a few people on this site who are wrapped way to tight anyway.
We can learn for the past or be condemned to repeat it.
pbear, br Let's say you're right. If you are, th... (show quote)


Now I can agree with a lot regarding this post.Pot is not that huge a threat to society like crack,Meth or Heroin.However,even if Pot was legalized,I still would not use it personally.I get stupid enough with Vodka and wine.

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Sep 23, 2013 05:38:28   #
erniehatt Loc: Queensland Australia
 
You will never have gun control,why, because at heart your still a bunch of wild west cowboys.

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Sep 23, 2013 06:06:02   #
Skellum0
 
Gun control means many different things, almost every country where there is legislation does it differently.

A very good start is:
1. No guns for anyone determined as mentally unstable
2. Snap for anyone ever convicted of a violent crime, backed up with severe mandatory prison time. ( there would need to be an appeal process for people who can show they need and can be trusted with a gun)
3. Anyone who keeps guns in there home are to keep them in a properly secured gun safe when not in use. Penalty for non compliance is confiscation.

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Sep 23, 2013 06:24:26   #
Millismote Loc: Massachusetts
 
Skellum0 wrote:
Gun control means many different things, almost every country where there is legislation does it differently.
3. Anyone who keeps guns in there home are to keep them in a properly secured gun safe when not in use. Penalty for non compliance is confiscation.


Some folks folks keep a gun in their house to protect their life and property, it wouldn't be much help locked in a safe.

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