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Jul 29, 2013 12:37:06   #
Reddog Loc: Southern Calif
 
Ambrose wrote:
It seems clear to me the country needs to stop playing the extreme left/right two party blame game (aptly described in another thread as the two-headed snake).
It's time we start electing some common sense, competent candidates (if ever made available to us) instead of these power hungry/money hungry zealots.
Can any Republicans here admit the faults of their party? Any Democrats?
Let's reverse the blame game - I challenge everyone here : could you tell us one thing wrong with your party? What one thing do you wish your party leaders would be more accountable about?
It seems clear to me the country needs to stop pla... (show quote)


Get rid of lobbyist and all the money they contribute and both parties would change for the better! Dems have to many programs that make folks reliant on Gov and Reps remain silent on all the Racists in their party!

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Jul 29, 2013 14:11:47   #
KW Conch Loc: USA
 
Lynnlett wrote:
Don't ignore that we are getting a congress that is bought and paid for by the K Street lobbyists.


Bingo ! You hit the nail on the head. :)

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Jul 29, 2013 15:25:55   #
dbmaxwell Loc: Mogadore, Ohio
 
This is a little idealistic and would require the participants to have a good sense of honor and fair play.

1. No parties, no title, no right or left, whatever.

2. No mention, hint, lie or anything about the other candidates. You can only run on your ideas and record.

3. All money comes from a fixed government pot. No donations, PACs, lobbyist or your own pocket.

4. The media doesn't pass decision on anyone. They just report. They are held responsible for the validity of what they report. No due diligence, they get fined and/or sued. No hiding behind "but our source said". That will slow down the news cycle but would improve accuracy, at least I think it would.

5. If you are currently holding the office and are running for reelection, you have to pay for the resources you are using. President needs to have protection but gets to pay for the fuel and all that if the only real reason for the trip is to campaign.

6. If you are in any government position and are running for a different office, you have to resign the office you have. The public elected you for the office you are in and you owe them your full attention. If you are running for office you aren't. The difference between a new office and re-election is you can show a track record in the office you have so you can give it your attention.

7. When you leave government you cannot work in any job that has any influence in government. No lobbying, no sales to the government, nothing. You can go to work with Boing bolting the wing on a plane but you can't sell the wing or the jet to the government. You can sell it to United though.

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Jul 29, 2013 16:13:15   #
bcheary Loc: Jacksonville, FL
 
Ambrose wrote:
It seems clear to me the country needs to stop playing the extreme left/right two party blame game (aptly described in another thread as the two-headed snake).
It's time we start electing some common sense, competent candidates (if ever made available to us) instead of these power hungry/money hungry zealots.
Can any Republicans here admit the faults of their party? Any Democrats?
Let's reverse the blame game - I challenge everyone here : could you tell us one thing wrong with your party? What one thing do you wish your party leaders would be more accountable about?
It seems clear to me the country needs to stop pla... (show quote)

Term limits is the only way things will change but don't hold your breath! Too many free loaders sucking on the Koolaide!

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Jul 29, 2013 17:42:20   #
lhomeniuk Loc: Texas
 
every ballot should have a box for "None Of The Above". If NOTA gets the most votes have another election BUT no one on the first ballot may run again.

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Jul 30, 2013 00:21:35   #
JBTaylor Loc: In hiding again
 
Could we even agree on what these new "good" politicians should do? Or how they should do it?

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Jul 30, 2013 00:39:56   #
SGTMAJ
 
why not have a revolt and storm the steps and take it back. other countries do it

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Jul 31, 2013 08:41:32   #
Penny MG Loc: Fresno, Texas
 
Robert Graybeal wrote:
Political parties ARE what's wrong with this country.

A politician MUST (HAS TO) (IS FORCED) to vote along party lines and AGAINST to other party. Doesn't matter if it is good/bad or right/wrong.

NO politician any longer represents the people, they only represent themselves.


:thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:

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Aug 14, 2013 22:27:40   #
PNagy Loc: Missouri City, Texas
 
Ambrose wrote:
It seems clear to me the country needs to stop playing the extreme left/right two party blame game (aptly described in another thread as the two-headed snake).
It's time we start electing some common sense, competent candidates (if ever made available to us) instead of these power hungry/money hungry zealots.
Can any Republicans here admit the faults of their party? Any Democrats?
Let's reverse the blame game - I challenge everyone here : could you tell us one thing wrong with your party? What one thing do you wish your party leaders would be more accountable about?
It seems clear to me the country needs to stop pla... (show quote)



The answer to that would be, very few. I support populist policies, so the rightists here have associated me with the Democratic Party before they lit on the even better idea of labeling me a communist. Nevertheless, the Democratic Party advocacy media, like CNBC, has perpetrated some of the same dishonest reporting for which Fixed News is widely condemned. One of them, David Packman, I think, referred to a video edited to make George Zimmerman seem racist after it had already been discredited as a fraud. It is very unlikely that Packman was unaware of this, therefore he also discredited himself. When someone takes a shortcut with the truth in order to promote a certain agenda, the agenda suffers, even if it is objectively a legitimate one.

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Aug 14, 2013 22:29:59   #
PNagy Loc: Missouri City, Texas
 
sarge69 wrote:
The thing that is needed to is 'UNLOCK' their position and get someone in that gives a rats ass.

Sarge69



That could be possible only if a constitutional convention created a government that is not a two-party, winner-take-all system in which the Republicratic Party of America can sideline all other parties. With only two viable parties, corporate money can buy both sets of politicians, thus removing the national interest completely from discussion, and replacing it with the corporate interest.

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Aug 15, 2013 08:09:02   #
Penny MG Loc: Fresno, Texas
 
dbmaxwell wrote:
This is a little idealistic and would require the participants to have a good sense of honor and fair play.

1. No parties, no title, no right or left, whatever.

2. No mention, hint, lie or anything about the other candidates. You can only run on your ideas and record.

3. All money comes from a fixed government pot. No donations, PACs, lobbyist or your own pocket.

4. The media doesn't pass decision on anyone. They just report. They are held responsible for the validity of what they report. No due diligence, they get fined and/or sued. No hiding behind "but our source said". That will slow down the news cycle but would improve accuracy, at least I think it would.

5. If you are currently holding the office and are running for reelection, you have to pay for the resources you are using. President needs to have protection but gets to pay for the fuel and all that if the only real reason for the trip is to campaign.

6. If you are in any government position and are running for a different office, you have to resign the office you have. The public elected you for the office you are in and you owe them your full attention. If you are running for office you aren't. The difference between a new office and re-election is you can show a track record in the office you have so you can give it your attention.

7. When you leave government you cannot work in any job that has any influence in government. No lobbying, no sales to the government, nothing. You can go to work with Boing bolting the wing on a plane but you can't sell the wing or the jet to the government. You can sell it to United though.
This is a little idealistic and would require the ... (show quote)



Good thoughts there.....However, because it makes sense, it will never fly. There are too many greedy people out there that want money and power.

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