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Jul 29, 2013 09:08:16   #
Lynnlett
 
Don't ignore that we are getting a congress that is bought and paid for by the K Street lobbyists.

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Jul 29, 2013 09:42:32   #
cheineck Loc: Hobe Sound, FL
 
lovesphotos wrote:
I sincerely wish you good luck with that.
I am a lifelong registered Republican, 3/4 conservative and 1/4 liberal, and I think both parties have lost their way in the dark, because the quality of the politicians have immensely degraded over the years. Any failing ambulance chaser wants to be a politician, not because they have some bright ideas for the country's future, but because they are smelling the gold at the end of the rainbow. All one has to do is to look seriously at the Congress' accomplishments for the past decade. It's nil, squat, nada. While you are doing that, you might chack out their net worth, how much it increased during the same time frame. While the country is bleeding, these clowns busy themselves with trivial crap, that should only be considered when there is nothing else left to do.
The fault is not altogether their's. It also lies with those who put them there.
I sincerely wish you good luck with that. br I am ... (show quote)


Excellent answer!

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Jul 29, 2013 09:46:00   #
sunshooter Loc: Coppell, TX (ouside Dallas)
 
The problem with both political parties is the same: simple greed on the part of their elected "officials."

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Jul 29, 2013 09:56:09   #
Pentony Loc: Earth Traveller
 
TERM LIMITS for all politicians and all judges JUST LIKE THE PRESIDENT.

Why keep re-electing the same do nothing crap? It's our fault. Being a politician as per our founding fathers was never meant to be a career.

Now all politicians are, is money grabbers at our expense. You want to know how to change things and put control back in the hands of 'we the people?'

TERM LIMITS:
President has two terms or eight years

WHY NOT ALSO;
Make Senators have two terms for a total of eight years
Make Representatives have two terms for a total of eight years
Alternate elections so that the Congressional body does not all get elected at the same time.
Make Judges with no life time appointments, limited to eight years

This will require a grass routes amendment to the Constitution, a thing which will be fought by politicians.

In addition add a requirement to hold public office that all politicians must have spent three years in the military or in the Peace Corps or in the domestic American Corps to minimize war hawk politicians getting us involve in unnecessary wars.

TERM LIMITS :lol:

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Jul 29, 2013 09:57:52   #
gorgehiker Loc: Lexington, Ky
 
We must also look at ourselves and personally accept some of the blame for the mess in Washington. We paint our politicians into a corner with things like tax pledges and NRA scores. Conservatives and liberals react in a knee-jerk, polarized, irrational manner and yet we somehow expect better from our politicians. The ideologues among us are a big part of the problem!

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Jul 29, 2013 10:04:29   #
TedPaul Loc: Madison, MS
 
sarge69 wrote:
The thing that is needed to is 'UNLOCK' their position and get someone in that gives a rats ass.

Sarge69


Eliminate the pot of gold (pension, medical plan) at the end of the rainbow (election). Just maybe, only people qualified may run for election.

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Jul 29, 2013 10:15:14   #
steve03 Loc: long Lsland
 
sunshooter wrote:
The problem with both political parties is the same: simple greed on the part of their elected "officials."


their officials? Are they not "our officials" and do we not vote for them? We complain a lot but less then 50% of the registered voters vote and even less people are active in the political system and stay uninformed or listen to just one side of the story.
The way it works now allows for money to be way more important then Votes and we allow that to happen.

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Jul 29, 2013 10:28:21   #
Ron K. Loc: Upstate NY.
 
What are you all complaining about. We have the best politicians money can buy.

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Jul 29, 2013 10:29:24   #
Freeride Loc: Sioux Falls, South Dakota
 
lovesphotos wrote:
I sincerely wish you good luck with that.
I am a lifelong registered Republican, 3/4 conservative and 1/4 liberal, and I think both parties have lost their way in the dark, because the quality of the politicians have immensely degraded over the years. Any failing ambulance chaser wants to be a politician, not because they have some bright ideas for the country's future, but because they are smelling the gold at the end of the rainbow. All one has to do is to look seriously at the Congress' accomplishments for the past decade. It's nil, squat, nada. While you are doing that, you might chack out their net worth, how much it increased during the same time frame. While the country is bleeding, these clowns busy themselves with trivial crap, that should only be considered when there is nothing else left to do.
The fault is not altogether their's. It also lies with those who put them there.
I sincerely wish you good luck with that. br I am ... (show quote)


:thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:

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Jul 29, 2013 10:31:37   #
RMM Loc: Suburban New York
 
TedPaul wrote:
Eliminate the pot of gold (pension, medical plan) at the end of the rainbow (election). Just maybe, only people qualified may run for election.

Those are small pot of gold. The big pots of gold are the jobs waiting after they leave office, the seats on boards of directors, etc. In short, the conflict of interest between public service and the jobs they can jump into in the private sector.

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Jul 29, 2013 10:32:52   #
Clif Loc: Central Ca.
 
This is a refreshing read. I must agree with everyone so far. Now if we can bring the rest of the country on board and quit the game they run of left Vs right which is just a smoke screen. Lobbyists and those they represent run our government for their benefit. The hand maiden, the so called news media, is going along with the game, after all who owns them? People, are and have been since the 60's a controlled society. Since then our economy and standard of living has been falling behind. but the rich are getting richer at the expense of the middle class who unlike the very poor won't take a stand. They are afraid to loose what little they do have left. But I could be wrong.

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Jul 29, 2013 10:36:30   #
Freeride Loc: Sioux Falls, South Dakota
 
rook2c4 wrote:
I think the major problem is the deeply entrenched two-party system. Both Democrat and Republican politicians happily work together to keep other parties and non-party independents from rising beyond the political peripheral. Until this lock on power is broken, expect more of the same business as usual - the same destructive national policies and the same currupt, self-serving politians on the ticket.


I feel that the whole election process has to be tweaked...make it necessary to have at least 51% of votes cast to win. Then if a individual doesn't have the required percent a run off of the two top vote getters. That way, in my opinion, it would give a 3rd party a chance to get a foothold! The way it is now a lot of good people don't have a chance cause they are not of the two main parties. Not that they would win but at least people could vote for them and not have the feeling they are wasting their vote and be able to vote again. I know the cost....but then maybe a "warchest" might not be necessary....just a thought

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Jul 29, 2013 11:41:12   #
rook2c4 Loc: Philadelphia, PA USA
 
Freeride wrote:
I feel that the whole election process has to be tweaked...make it necessary to have at least 51% of votes cast to win. Then if a individual doesn't have the required percent a run off of the two top vote getters. That way, in my opinion, it would give a 3rd party a chance to get a foothold! The way it is now a lot of good people don't have a chance cause they are not of the two main parties. Not that they would win but at least people could vote for them and not have the feeling they are wasting their vote and be able to vote again. I know the cost....but then maybe a "warchest" might not be necessary....just a thought
I feel that the whole election process has to be t... (show quote)


Also, I think maybe a "none of the above" voting option on election ballots would be good too. This would force political parties and candidates to go back and reshape their platforms and policies to something that is more in line to what the public wants from government.

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Jul 29, 2013 12:31:31   #
stonecherub Loc: Tucson, AZ
 
Ambrose starts with the CLASSIC false equivalence "far left/far right." We have no "far left" or even much of a middle left in this country. The right, on the other hand, has drifted into cruelty. There's so much cruelty, it's difficult to pick an example but take austerity for an example. As austerity in Europe fails extravagantly, austerity here means some people haven't had jobs for more than a year and are never going to get another job. If that isn't cruel enough for you, consider the prison-industrial complex.

One of the best commentators on false equivalence is James Fallows from the Atlantic. Most of what he writes is worth reading, for instance, he has the best analysis of the Asiana 214 crash that I've seen so far.

This essay:
http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2013/07/the-impending-senate-vote-on-confirming-nominees/277801/
suggests that total failure of the left frees the right to be as bad as they are and plan to become worse. "they have no need to be reasonable because their unreasoning cannot be punished."

It looks like the crazies want to burn the country to the ground. Not good.

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Jul 29, 2013 12:36:10   #
RMM Loc: Suburban New York
 
rook2c4 wrote:
Also, I think maybe a "none of the above" voting option on election ballots would be good too. This would force political parties and candidates to go back and reshape their platforms and policies to something that is more in line to what the public wants from government.

You stole my idea. I'd like a "None of the above" choice on the ballot, and if "None of the above" got more votes than anyone else, a new election would have to be held within 30-60 days. You can argue whether any of the original crop of candidates could remain on the ballot.

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