sinatraman wrote:
common sense was never all that common.
now days it is very uncommon....
photosbyhenry wrote:
Some of us old geezers (not referring to anyone) sometimes had to rely on things we learned as we grew up. We maybe did some things in our childhood that maybe we should not have done. We chose to do things because we knew right from wrong. Everything now has a warning that says, "Do not try this at home!!!". I see a lot of people who "hyjack" photos and then say, "I didn't know there was a rule or where is the rule?. Before you take, use or think you have a right to others things, property or photos, please ask. A suggestion to the newbees is to click on the administration page and look at the rules before you post anything.
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Couldn't agree with your statement more. And look at the folks responding to your thread -- all of us who have been on here posting photos for a while. I still see many people posting their photos on other threads without asking permission to do so. Very inconsiderate, I think. Cheryl
Still two variations on a theme... #1 taking over one's thread with pics from responders. #2 editing one's pic with out invitation or permission. #1 happened to me on my welcome...
Elle wrote:
Saside...I guess fresh from the other thread where I did not understand why anyone would bring up the thread was hijacked causing some confusion in the people who had already posted, had me honed into seeing "hijacking" as the thread topic. Common Sense is a much broader subject.
I'm still interested in what constitutes the term hijacking in people's minds because while an unsolicited editing of someone's photo qualifies to me...does it apply to a stray from the topic as well?
The way I read it (somewhere) either by Admin or another person who stated what the rules should be and many agreed....if the poster asks specifically for you to show your photos or gives you permission to post your own photos on his/her thread, you can. I do believe the Admin said no taking someone else's photo and editing it and reposting it (there again, unless you ask permission) - all of this is common courtesy issues. I also think another way of hijacking a post could be considered what I'm doing now - nonintentionally though. But, I'm kind of off subject of common sense? Therefore, I think some of the rules can and will be bent. (Now, I'll try to see if I can find out where I read this). Cheryl
Dunatic wrote:
Elle wrote:
Saside...I guess fresh from the other thread where I did not understand why anyone would bring up the thread was hijacked causing some confusion in the people who had already posted, had me honed into seeing "hijacking" as the thread topic. Common Sense is a much broader subject.
I'm still interested in what constitutes the term hijacking in people's minds because while an unsolicited editing of someone's photo qualifies to me...does it apply to a stray from the topic as well?
The way I read it (somewhere) either by Admin or another person who stated what the rules should be and many agreed....if the poster asks specifically for you to show your photos or gives you permission to post your own photos on his/her thread, you can. I do believe the Admin said no taking someone else's photo and editing it and reposting it (there again, unless you ask permission) - all of this is common courtesy issues. I also think another way of hijacking a post could be considered what I'm doing now - nonintentionally though. But, I'm kind of off subject of common sense? Therefore, I think some of the rules can and will be bent. (Now, I'll try to see if I can find out where I read this). Cheryl
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Okay, I didn't find the word "hijacking" in the Admin's rules. But rather then me posting them here. If anyone wants to read the Photography Forum's Rules, on the topic page, go to HELP, and you can read his/her rules. Hope this helps. Cheryl
sinatraman wrote:
highjacking isn't a written rule, it like not typing in all capital letters is a custom that evolved on the first forums. (actually there probably is a masters thesis in psychology for a study on the unwrittten rules of the internet) somebody needs to collect all the rules and publish them. I figure if you show courtesy to other posters, you've got the rules covered.
From what I've read on the Forum Rules, you're right----highjacking is NOT specifically mentioned. But there IS an admonition about not typing in ALL capital letters.
As for courtesy, that's so subjective that it can often lead to nothing more than arguments. The definitions of respect, manners, courtesy, common sense are no longer found in classrooms or homes as they did in the 40s, 50s and 60s. That was one of the reasons I left public school teaching.
There's a lot of good to be said about those "Happy Days", eh?
Greg-Colo wrote:
Still two variations on a theme... #1 taking over one's thread with pics from responders. #2 editing one's pic with out invitation or permission. #1 happened to me on my welcome...
I can easily believe that it happened to you, even on your welcome. It's a real slippery issue, it seems. I've been guilty of stepping in when the original poster doesn't tell the hijacker to please refrain. I've gotten "smacked" for it too, in a gentle way (no bruises!). No more trying to be a "do-gooder" for me!
So the word on the Forum, as I understand it, is that it's up to the Original Poster to ask for others to post their own photos and also to tell others when their postings are hijackings. Seems like a more responsible way and it makes (common) sense to me. :D
Elle
Loc: Long Island, NY
or if there is something you want to try..you can ask the photo's owner if they would mind and chances are you will get a positive answer. The idea is that it isn't up there for someone to do what they want to at will.
Elle wrote:
or if there is something you want to try..you can ask the photo's owner if they would mind and chances are you will get a positive answer. The idea is that it isn't up there for someone to do what they want to at will.
Yep, that's what I'm talkin' about----now that's courtesy and you'd think it'd be common sense and pretty universal. Sadly not. :cry:
JimH
Loc: Western South Jersey, USA
"Hijacking", as a thread behavior, is usually meant to mean either posting
your own pictures on another person's C&C thread, or, less onerous, adding a comment that tends to veer the subject away from the original post. The latter is not hard to do, sometimes, and is usually viewed as not quite so socially unacceptable as the former behavior.
Editing and re-posting another's pictures can be considered hijacking as well, and is the behavior specifically prohibited in the newest rule in the PICTURES section
http://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-426-1.htmlSo far as I have ever heard, there is no commonly accepted Internet name for this behavior. You could call it 'hijacking' but since there are other forms of hijacking, that's not completely accurate.
Elle
Loc: Long Island, NY
Conversations veering from the topic are a common Internet occurrence. It happens so often its almost not worth mentioning in any forum with this kind of set-up. If it happens and there is any relationship at all to the subject at hand, it doesn't bother me..however if the subject is Farms and someone introduced Factories, then it does. Not in the same ball park as someone hijacking another's photo, that really sets my teeth one edge.
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