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Nov 20, 2011 01:32:51   #
PalePictures Loc: Traveling
 
Still noisy reno. I may spend some time on it or just move on.

Thanks for the effort.

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Nov 20, 2011 01:34:01   #
photogrl57 Loc: Tennessee
 
renomike wrote:
PalePictures wrote:
I still won't frame it but I would like to know if you can see the noise in the photo. It was too dark and my ISO was too high. Lesson learned lower the ISO to 100 if you want to blow it up.


This is a little better, but still some noise when enlarged to 200 percent.

Mike


Yeah it's only 600x750. too small to blow up.

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Nov 20, 2011 01:48:48   #
SQUIRL033 Loc: Chehalis, WA
 
PalePictures wrote:
SQUIRL033 wrote:
hard to tell from the small shot you posted, but it does appear there's a bit of noise in the shadow areas. that's surprising, since the 5D2 has very good low-noise qualities, even at fairly high ISO settings...


Thanks squirrel. Just trying to figure out what my cutoff is on a post. Trying to keep the quality up. It was noisy I only had a few like this. Its a shame when the best shots have technical problems.


i don't know what noise removal program you use, but i get very good results with Neat Image. you can use their free demo indefinitely, and it does a very good job getting rid of noise, especially in shadow areas. what ISO were you shooting at, anyway?

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Nov 20, 2011 01:57:15   #
PalePictures Loc: Traveling
 
SQUIRL033 wrote:
PalePictures wrote:
SQUIRL033 wrote:
hard to tell from the small shot you posted, but it does appear there's a bit of noise in the shadow areas. that's surprising, since the 5D2 has very good low-noise qualities, even at fairly high ISO settings...


Thanks squirrel. Just trying to figure out what my cutoff is on a post. Trying to keep the quality up. It was noisy I only had a few like this. Its a shame when the best shots have technical problems.


i don't know what noise removal program you use, but i get very good results with Neat Image. you can use their free demo indefinitely, and it does a very good job getting rid of noise, especially in shadow areas. what ISO were you shooting at, anyway?
quote=PalePictures quote=SQUIRL033 hard to tell ... (show quote)


I think it was 800. I've never had noise issues before with my 5D. Like you said its very good supposedly at 1600. It was very low light and I was shooting hand held. I think the speed was 125 so I don't think I had any blur from camera shake. I'll look at Neat Image as well. I usually shoot in brighter light. I spent so much time looking for my flash wires, I missed the golden hour. All shoots don't work out -- at least for me. I'm forever learning.

Thanks for the Tip Squirl your input is always appreciated!

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Nov 20, 2011 02:06:13   #
SQUIRL033 Loc: Chehalis, WA
 
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I think it was 800. I've never had noise issues before with my 5D. Like you said its very good supposedly at 1600. It was very low light and I was shooting hand held. I think the speed was 125 so I don't think I had any blur from camera shake. I'll look at Neat Image as well. I usually shoot in brighter light. I spent so much time looking for my flash wires, I missed the golden hour. All shoots don't work out -- at least for me. I'm forever learning.

Thanks for the Tip Squirl your input is always appreciated!
I think it was 800. I've never had noise issues be... (show quote)


that's pretty weird - i've seen a ton of shots from the 5D2 at ISO 1600 that were as clean as my ol' 5D 'classic' at ISO 400! the new ones are so much better in low light... that's my next upgrade, i believe. in looking at the image again, i'm not sure how much is noise, and how much is just that odd 'in-between' background that's neither sharp nor really 'bokeh'... sometimes that can look noisier than it really is... any chance you can post a larger image?

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Nov 20, 2011 02:40:27   #
PalePictures Loc: Traveling
 
Ok squirl here's the full image. I just looked at the EXIF data and ISO was 1000 not 800. Shot wide open at an aperture of 2.8.

Noise is noticable on the face. Bokah was intentional. Depth seems to be okay I was back from her to cover the DOF.

I am upgrading to the 1DX in march when it comes out. I want to shoot untethered to my IPAD. It has integrated ethernet with a very small add on for N wireless. I refused to buy the mark IV because of the large addon for wifi which took up one of the battery slots and was only a G network. It was just too slow. New camera should send a small jpeg to my Ipad within a second. I ususally shoot raw and jpeg simultaneously. It also does a retry if it looses the network connection another problem with canons current markIV wifi attachment. Oh yea and the second reason is 12-14 frames per second.

Larger Image
Larger Image...

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Nov 20, 2011 03:23:31   #
SQUIRL033 Loc: Chehalis, WA
 
-+

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Nov 20, 2011 03:26:44   #
SQUIRL033 Loc: Chehalis, WA
 
i see what you mean about the noise! the 5D2 should be much better than that... anyway, i tried to clean it up a bit for you with Neat Image, just a quick pass, but it did seem to help quite a bit. still may not be one you want to print large, though...



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Nov 20, 2011 09:28:04   #
photogrl57 Loc: Tennessee
 
:)



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Nov 20, 2011 09:32:48   #
PalePictures Loc: Traveling
 
SQUIRL033 wrote:
i see what you mean about the noise! the 5D2 should be much better than that... anyway, i tried to clean it up a bit for you with Neat Image, just a quick pass, but it did seem to help quite a bit. still may not be one you want to print large, though...


Thanks again squirl. This pic is going to fall into "would of should of category"
if I can't blow it up i'll file it in the lessons learned folder. Probably a combination of things. The 70-200 seems to have a sweet spot above about 4.5 Maybe that contributed. I'm going to do some testing next time to see if I can't further narrow the issue down.
Your edits and post are always excellent!

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Nov 20, 2011 09:36:55   #
rayford2 Loc: New Bethlehem, PA
 
Squirrel and photogirl have some great improvements. Squirrel's photo has better facial tones.

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Nov 20, 2011 09:43:39   #
PalePictures Loc: Traveling
 
photogrl57 wrote:
:)


Thanks for the edit photogrl.
You increased the exposure some which is a preference thing. I typically keep my exposure back a tad for a little added warmth. I'm going to look at the topaz plugin as well and blow up one that used noise reduction and see how it looks.

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Nov 20, 2011 09:45:53   #
PalePictures Loc: Traveling
 
rayford2 wrote:
Squirrel and photogirl have some great improvements. Squirrel's photo has better facial tones.

Yep he removed the noise while keeping the warmth.

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Nov 20, 2011 10:01:13   #
photogrl57 Loc: Tennessee
 
Sorry about that this one is DeNoise and InFocus only



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Nov 20, 2011 10:04:47   #
PalePictures Loc: Traveling
 
photogrl57 wrote:
Sorry about that this one is DeNoise and InFocus only

Very good photogrl! Very good!!!

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