Adobe Creative Cloud (Page 3): Corel Paint Shop, that's the answer as far as I'm concerned, never had the urge to spend as much on software as on a lens, and Corel Paint Shop X5 does...

bobmcculloch Loc: NYC, NY

Corel Paint Shop, that's the answer as far as I'm concerned, never had the urge to spend as much on software as on a lens, and Corel Paint Shop X5 does it all for me, Bob.

BboH Loc: s of 2/21, Ellicott City, MD

The idea has been floating for some time now. If I recall correctly, Microsoft is talking about doing this with its Office program; also think that MS may have been the first to float the idea. Not sure if Adobe is the first to put it to use.

bobmcculloch Loc: NYC, NY

CaptainC wrote:

Another thread of mis-information. Photoshop alone is $10.00/month and you get improvements as they are ready. The $50.00 is for the whole suite and THAT is a real deal.

It may be a real deal but, $120.00 a year is more than Corel, and you don't own it, I don't lease cars either, less expensive to buy and use than to lease, Bob.

Brucej67 Loc: Cary, NC

Something else to think about when renting software:
1. Will you have to stay current on your operating system in order to stay current on the software. Eventually even Adobe will drop support for outdated OS.
2. Just like CS6 forced a hardware upgrade on older graphics cards in order to use the new graphics engine, future upgrades could force you to do the same thing.
3. Now that you have automatic upgrades on your computer, what happens when an Adobe upgrade damages one of your other software products you have on your computer. Can you go back to a prior cloud version that worked without damage.
4. If in a few years prices go up or you can not afford the subscription do they give you the option of just using what you have on your computer and if not who is responsible for removing the Adobe software from your computer and guarantee that the removal will not break anything else.

jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY

James Eslinger wrote:

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No more PS upgrades for me. I have PS 6, and that will be my last. PSE and LR work fine. As for the subscriptions, you know the prices will rise, and customers will have to pay or lose their programs.

OnDSnap Loc: NE New Jersey

BboH wrote:

The idea has been floating for some time now. If I recall correctly, Microsoft is talking about doing this with its Office program; also think that MS may have been the first to float the idea. Not sure if Adobe is the first to put it to use.

I spend well over $2,000.00 a year for PP/design/cad software subscriptions a year thus far...Thankfully there are alternatives and it's getting to be that time to start reconsidering my choices. Now with Adobe jumping on the band wagon...Who said shooting digital isn't expensive? Maybe digital images vs film...but that's about it.

jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY

OnDSnap wrote:

I spend well over $2,000.00 a year for PP/design/cad software subscriptions a year thus far...Thankfully there are alternatives and it's getting to be that time to start reconsidering my choices. Now with Adobe jumping on the band wagon...Who said shooting digital isn't expensive? Maybe digital images vs film...but that's about it.

At one time, I subscriptions to over a dozen magazines of all types. Waste of money. I don't like to be signed up for something that takes my money on a regular basis. That's ideal for them, but not for me. I give to a charity that way, but it's tax-deductible.

Nikonhermit Loc: In This Place

It's a changing world, but I, for one, will NOT, repeat, NOT rent their software. Neither will I rent MS Office. Maybe age is on my side, but if this is how they plan to do business, CS6 is the last software I will buy from them. Same for perpetually updating operating systems. Computers being as cheap as they are, anyone can afford to equip one computer and printer with their choice of OS and software, back everything up, disconnect it from the Net forever, and work in peace.

Also, companies like Adobe may be interested in today's news item from New Zealand, which states that software is NOT patentable:

http://www.forbes.com/sites/reuvencohen/2013/05/08/new-zealand-government-announces-that-software-will-no-longer-be-patentable/

DPFotos Loc: Pembroke, Ma

CaptainC wrote:

Another thread of mis-information. Photoshop alone is $10.00/month and you get improvements as they are ready. The $50.00 is for the whole suite and THAT is a real deal.

You are absolutely correct. I already have CS6 extended and can get on for $10 per month for a year then I believe it goes to $20. I've never heard so much pissing and moaning in my life. I also have CS5 the entire design suite...costs lots of money. For $50 per month it is a bargain. What people don't realize that if you are om a budget and couldn't afford PS before you should be able to now for the low cost per month. This is the wave of the future get used to it and it's not just Adobe.

PhotoGator Loc: Florida

James Eslinger wrote:

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I will not be forced to follow Adobe's plan. I am also awaiting for LR5 with great anticipation but if is only going to be available through Creative Cloud then I will sit out.

Please, support the following petition:

http://www.change.org/petitions/adobe-systems-incorporated-eliminate-the-mandatory-creative-cloud-subscription-model?utm_campaign=signature_receipt&utm_medium=email&utm_source=share_petition

Jim Plogger Loc: East Tennessee

The Cloud service is great for a few of us but not so great for most of us. Like Sarge, I want to own my software for as long as I want to use it. You can go mhere to sign a petition to Adobe:

http://www.change.org/petitions/adobe-systems-incorporated-eliminate-the-mandatory-creati...

Peanut_the_cat Loc: Bradenton, Florida

James Eslinger wrote:

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For the amature it is an issue but for me as a pro using PS CS6 5 hours a day a better deal not having to wait 18 months to 2 years for an update. I contacted Adobe yesterday and they said $9.99 a month for PS CC as I was a PS CS6 user. Not sure now if thats a first year "come on" price or fixed for time being but one has to commit soon (June I think they said) or that deals off the table. Don't forget that opting out means you miss the ACR updates for new lenes and camera RAW changes. I also believe the cloud version has a tool to remove (reduce) camera shake.

mainshipper Loc: Hernando, Florida

Xtreme66 wrote:

I have read that Lightroom 5 will still be sold on dvd. I hope that's true because there's no way I'm going to rent it. IMO this a very unwise move by Adobe. I don't care for the whole cloud idea to begin with and don't use any cloud based services, I prefer to keep my files locally on my own hard drives.

I believe that the software is still local to your PC but will only work when it is validated by the cloud. The cloud piece enables some sort of device sharing of data/settings like iCloud. My concern with any of these "cloud" models is how well they work in a disconnected mode.

Festus Loc: North Dakota

James Eslinger wrote:

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I will probably subscribe and I am not a professional photographer. I took the plunge with Microsoft 2013 subscription a few months ago and love it. The subscription process only changes how you get the software. Any files that I create I have the option of saving them in Microsoft's SkyDrive (their Cloud) or on my computer. What is very nice is that if I store a file in SkyDrive I can access that file from almost any device. (another computer, my iPhone or iPad) very attractive feature.

artBob Loc: Near Chicago

IS's going to be pretty simple math for me. I use three programs in Creative suite pretty intensively. I'll pick up a new version every two years. If it cost me less to do the cloud, I probably will do it. If not, I'll look for something else.