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Jul 14, 2017 14:52:22   #
rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA
 
jerryc41 wrote:
This is a pet peeve of mine - names used for photo gear. I can understand Canon and Nikon using "D" in their DSLR names, but they should have given more thought to what goes along with that "D." Does it really have to be called a Canon EOS 5D Mark IV? Nikon's naming system is a bit cleaner, but what will happen after several updates to the D750? Will it become the D800?

Look at the names given to lenses. If someone asks what you want for your birthday, isn't "Canon EF-S 18-135mm f/3.5-5.6 IS USM lens" just a bit of a mouthful? Of course, all of those characters mean something, but are they essential to the name? Not everyone knows what each of those characters represents. Here's a lens from Tamron: Tamron 18-400mm F/3.5-6.3 DI-II VC HLD. Consider how camera manuals are written, and you can see that camera companies have trouble with words.

Imagine if car names included engine size, gearbox, fuel tank capacity, safety features, etc. I might go shopping for a Ford Taurus 3.8 A ABS RE FLR 5P.

What got me thinking about this again was a link someone provided to the Nikon Message service. I downloaded it and found that it was named "S-NMC2_-020101WF-ALLIN-32BIT_"
Later in the day, I received an email telling me there was an update, so I downloaded "S-NMC2_-020300WF-ALLIN-32BIT" I added "Nikon Msg" to the beginning of each name so I would know what it is. Why not call it Nikon Msg_1, Nikon Msg_2, etc?

Thanks. That's my rant for the day.
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It's a good thing you know only about Canikon.

Over recent years, Pentax's flagship APS-C cameras were K-7, K-5, K-3 {several successive variants of each} and then the FF K-1 came. Where do they go from here?

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Jul 14, 2017 15:06:45   #
MjTahoe Loc: Napa Valley / Lake Tahoe / California Sierra
 
Might start with a pinhole camera... No camera or lens ID necessary!
jerryc41 wrote:
Great idea! What kind of camera should I get?

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Jul 14, 2017 15:33:42   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
MjTahoe wrote:
Might start with a pinhole camera... No camera or lens ID necessary!



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Jul 14, 2017 16:52:51   #
hassighedgehog Loc: Corona, CA
 
Sometimes there is a good reason for cars, at least, to have different names in different countries. When Chevrolet had the 'Nova' model in the US, they used a different name in Spanish speaking countries. NO VA in Spanish means: does not go. Never understood why Volkswagen called the model Rabbit in the US but Golf elsewhere.

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Jul 14, 2017 17:09:22   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
jerryc41 wrote:
Yes, I know what you mean. Why do they need two - or more - names?


Probably because they have two or more computer systems, written by different people at different times, that have to track the same items. Some IT person was probably told at gunpoint by an IDIOT manager that the nomenclature had to mean something they could decipher. Using "smart numbers" and "smart names" for products just invites confusion... Especially when two systems with different numbers and nomenclature are in play!

Been there, done that, bought the ticket out of IT...

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Jul 14, 2017 18:15:06   #
williejoha
 
It is no different than with us humans. We don't just talk about Joe, but about Joe Blow from nowhere Michigan. Helps to be able to be specific. JMTC.

WJH

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Jul 14, 2017 19:12:20   #
PAR4DCR Loc: A Sunny Place
 
They should use the KISS principle (Keep It Simple Stupid)

Don

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Jul 14, 2017 19:24:06   #
CO
 
There's someone at Radiant Lite Photography who compiled a complete lens glossary for Nikon, Canon, Sigma, Tamron, Sony, Pentax, and Tokina. The website seems a little outdated though. Here is the website:

http://www.radiantlite.com/2010/08/complete-lens-glossary.html

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Jul 14, 2017 19:41:33   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
jerryc41 wrote:
This is a pet peeve of mine - names used for photo gear. I can understand Canon and Nikon using "D" in their DSLR names, but they should have given more thought to what goes along with that "D." Does it really have to be called a Canon EOS 5D Mark IV? Nikon's naming system is a bit cleaner, but what will happen after several updates to the D750? Will it become the D800?

Look at the names given to lenses. If someone asks what you want for your birthday, isn't "Canon EF-S 18-135mm f/3.5-5.6 IS USM lens" just a bit of a mouthful? Of course, all of those characters mean something, but are they essential to the name? Not everyone knows what each of those characters represents. Here's a lens from Tamron: Tamron 18-400mm F/3.5-6.3 DI-II VC HLD. Consider how camera manuals are written, and you can see that camera companies have trouble with words.

Imagine if car names included engine size, gearbox, fuel tank capacity, safety features, etc. I might go shopping for a Ford Taurus 3.8 A ABS RE FLR 5P.

What got me thinking about this again was a link someone provided to the Nikon Message service. I downloaded it and found that it was named "S-NMC2_-020101WF-ALLIN-32BIT_"
Later in the day, I received an email telling me there was an update, so I downloaded "S-NMC2_-020300WF-ALLIN-32BIT" I added "Nikon Msg" to the beginning of each name so I would know what it is. Why not call it Nikon Msg_1, Nikon Msg_2, etc?

Thanks. That's my rant for the day.
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Jul 14, 2017 20:26:04   #
jwn Loc: SOUTHEAST GEORGIA USA
 
names are difficult, my Mother still calls me by my brothers name and my Aunt calls me by her dead dog name.............

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Jul 14, 2017 20:57:09   #
Erik_H Loc: Denham Springs, Louisiana
 
fourg1b2006 wrote:
Now that everyone got that out of their system....let's sit down and have a beer lol.
Would you like a Bud, Bud Light, Bud Light Platinum, Apple, Bud Light Lime-A-Ritas, Budweiser Select, Budweiser Select 55, Budweiser 66, Bud Ice, Bud Extra, Budweiser Chelada, Budweiser N/A, Budweiser American Ale, Budweiser Brewmaster's Private Reserve, Bud Dry, Bud Ice Light, Bud Light Golden Wheat, or a Bud Silver?

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Jul 14, 2017 21:06:10   #
10MPlayer Loc: California
 
jerryc41 wrote:
And what's confusing about that?
The Mazda Miata has different names in different places, too, as do other cars.


Agreed. The Nissan 370Z in known as the Fairlady Z in Japan. Somehow I don't want my small powerful car sounding so feminine.

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Jul 14, 2017 21:17:09   #
Bill_de Loc: US
 
When Nikon named their SLR an F, then an F2, ect., did that stand for Film in anticipation of using D for digital?

:)

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Jul 14, 2017 21:25:43   #
rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA
 
My first Pentax camera, which I purchased in 1979, was a variant of something known as the "ME". It's successor, which I purchased in 1983, was known as the "Super Program". I'm not aware of any great pattern guiding their naming back then.

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Jul 14, 2017 23:14:39   #
cjc2 Loc: Hellertown PA
 
Take two asprin, get a good night's rest and call me in the morning. That will be $ 190.00 plus a $ 150.00 facility fee!

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