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Jul 14, 2017 23:28:53   #
therwol Loc: USA
 
jerryc41 wrote:
This is a pet peeve of mine - names used for photo gear. I can understand Canon and Nikon using "D" in their DSLR names, but they should have given more thought to what goes along with that "D." Does it really have to be called a Canon EOS 5D Mark IV? Nikon's naming system is a bit cleaner, but what will happen after several updates to the D750? Will it become the D800?

Look at the names given to lenses. If someone asks what you want for your birthday, isn't "Canon EF-S 18-135mm f/3.5-5.6 IS USM lens" just a bit of a mouthful? Of course, all of those characters mean something, but are they essential to the name? Not everyone knows what each of those characters represents. Here's a lens from Tamron: Tamron 18-400mm F/3.5-6.3 DI-II VC HLD. Consider how camera manuals are written, and you can see that camera companies have trouble with words.

Imagine if car names included engine size, gearbox, fuel tank capacity, safety features, etc. I might go shopping for a Ford Taurus 3.8 A ABS RE FLR 5P.

What got me thinking about this again was a link someone provided to the Nikon Message service. I downloaded it and found that it was named "S-NMC2_-020101WF-ALLIN-32BIT_"
Later in the day, I received an email telling me there was an update, so I downloaded "S-NMC2_-020300WF-ALLIN-32BIT" I added "Nikon Msg" to the beginning of each name so I would know what it is. Why not call it Nikon Msg_1, Nikon Msg_2, etc?

Thanks. That's my rant for the day.
This is a pet peeve of mine - names used for photo... (show quote)


Have you noticed how many pharmaceuticals advertised on TV have X, Y or Z in the name, sometimes a combination of two, and sometimes all three. Take the new allergy med Xyzal. Someone has figured out that these names attract interest or represent something "better" to consumers. Maybe it's the same with other consumer goods. Doesn't G7X Mark II sound great? It has an X in the name. Maybe Nikon should market a D810X. I'm sure it would increase sales :-)

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Jul 14, 2017 23:34:50   #
rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA
 
therwol wrote:
Have you noticed how many pharmaceuticals advertised on TV have X, Y or Z in the name, sometimes a combination of two, and sometimes all three. Take the new allergy med Xyzal. Someone has figured out that these names attract interest or represent something "better" to consumers. Maybe it's the same with other consumer goods. Doesn't G7X Mark II sound great? It has an X in the name. Maybe Nikon should market a D810X. I'm sure it would increase sales :-)

And Pentax should remember my film "Super Program" with a digital "Zuper Program"??

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Jul 15, 2017 01:40:23   #
therwol Loc: USA
 
rehess wrote:
And Pentax should remember my film "Super Program" with a digital "Zuper Program"??


Of course. Don't you think that would attract attention? The camera manufacturers are lagging in this XYZ business and should get on the ball. How about some TV advertising where you listen to someone with an Australian accent urging you to call in the next 15 minutes to buy not one, but two cameras for the same price with free shipping? No wonder camera sales are lagging.

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Jul 15, 2017 10:12:23   #
Stan Gould Loc: La Crosse, Wisconsin
 
markngolf wrote:
Jerry - Take up something "uncomplicated" like golf. It will free your mind of these type worries.
Mark





Please remember, that golf was a game invented by the same folks that think music comes out of a bagpipe.

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Jul 17, 2017 04:20:56   #
Captkirk Loc: Masterton, Wairarapa, New Zealand
 
Here in New Zealand your T6I is knoiwn as the 750D while in Japan it has a name of KISS Model (something). From what I have read, the Japanese studied various makets and came to the conclusion the Aussies and Kiwis like names with numbers, while the USA liked names like Rebel a,d the Japanese like cutesy names. They do this with their cars too. In NZ the Mazda 3 is called just that while in Japan its called an Axela. Supposedly its all marketing speak.
SS319 wrote:
My Canon EOS Rebel T6i anywhere but in America is called a 750D, but what is more troubling is that a Canon EOS T6 is a completely different body from the Canon EOS Rebel T6i or T6s (the i and s are feature designators). The T6 is related to the T5 while the T6i and T6s are related to the T5i and the T7i

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Jul 17, 2017 05:58:00   #
blackest Loc: Ireland
 
For my lens buying addiction I usually look for brand or mount focal length and max f-stop initially. With Pentax you usually have m42 k km ka f fa faj da and some with * which is the L of the Pentax world.
k /km usually fully manual
ka automatic aperture
f something full frame auto aperture and focus
da as fa but designed for crop sensor.

Third party lenses are much more difficult to identify especially a company like Vivitar, Sigma's are pretty tricky too Tamron usually has a number like 22a which you can look up for details (the 44 is similar but better) SP means it's designed as one of their best lenses.

Pentax model numbers tend towards bands for the digital camera's a single digit for the best, 2 digits for mid range, 3 digits for entry level.

3rd party lenses are difficult rarely advertised properly, last night i bought a sigma lens advertised as 100-200mm f4.5 and a canon mount (not specified fd or eos).

The pictures told part of another story f2.8 and A on the ring macro and pk on the end cap means it probably is a 24mm or 28mm sigma mini wide or superwide on pentax pka mount. About the only thing the seller got right is its a sigma.

my maiden bid of $8 got it, (it comes with a hoya uv filter which sells for more) and while i am in the dark about which lens it actually is i'm fairly sure it was manufactured between 1981 and 86 (from the knurling pattern of the rubber, it's a useful identifier). Pretty sure it will not have auto focus.

It's all good fun and while i don't know which sigma it actually is Pentax lens reviews suggest its fairly good (all it could be are rated 8+) it looks very clean and original. I might have it by the end of the week or next week. It's cheaper than drinking or smoking :)

The confusion usually acts in my favour, just needs a little research. Although i'm quite glad not to have bid on a centon 24-70mm which went for 99p yesterday it's a very soft chinese made lens marketed by jessops although the one youtube video i found using that lens didn't look bad to be fair.

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Jul 17, 2017 08:46:43   #
pcolatide Loc: Pensacola, FL
 

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Jul 17, 2017 13:36:29   #
bkyser Loc: Fly over country in Indiana
 
turp77 wrote:
But then the saying "Bob's your uncle" is a good thing.


I say that all the time.......my nieces and nephews never get it. My grandkids just look confused, and my kids roll their eyes.

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Jul 18, 2017 14:32:13   #
cambriaman Loc: Central CA Coast
 
Everything has to have a "name". Some are better than others.

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