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Jul 13, 2017 08:18:18   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
This is a pet peeve of mine - names used for photo gear. I can understand Canon and Nikon using "D" in their DSLR names, but they should have given more thought to what goes along with that "D." Does it really have to be called a Canon EOS 5D Mark IV? Nikon's naming system is a bit cleaner, but what will happen after several updates to the D750? Will it become the D800?

Look at the names given to lenses. If someone asks what you want for your birthday, isn't "Canon EF-S 18-135mm f/3.5-5.6 IS USM lens" just a bit of a mouthful? Of course, all of those characters mean something, but are they essential to the name? Not everyone knows what each of those characters represents. Here's a lens from Tamron: Tamron 18-400mm F/3.5-6.3 DI-II VC HLD. Consider how camera manuals are written, and you can see that camera companies have trouble with words.

Imagine if car names included engine size, gearbox, fuel tank capacity, safety features, etc. I might go shopping for a Ford Taurus 3.8 A ABS RE FLR 5P.

What got me thinking about this again was a link someone provided to the Nikon Message service. I downloaded it and found that it was named "S-NMC2_-020101WF-ALLIN-32BIT_"
Later in the day, I received an email telling me there was an update, so I downloaded "S-NMC2_-020300WF-ALLIN-32BIT" I added "Nikon Msg" to the beginning of each name so I would know what it is. Why not call it Nikon Msg_1, Nikon Msg_2, etc?

Thanks. That's my rant for the day.

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Jul 13, 2017 08:21:54   #
jaymatt Loc: Alexandria, Indiana
 
jerryc41 wrote:
This is a pet peeve of mine - names used for photo gear. I can understand Canon and Nikon using "D" in their DSLR names, but they should have given more thought to what goes along with that "D." Does it really have to be called a Canon EOS 5D Mark IV? Nikon's naming system is a bit cleaner, but what will happen after several updates to the D750? Will it become the D800?

Look at the names given to lenses. If someone asks what you want for your birthday, isn't "Canon EF-S 18-135mm f/3.5-5.6 IS USM lens" just a bit of a mouthful? Of course, all of those characters mean something, but are they essential to the name? Not everyone knows what each of those characters represents. Here's a lens from Tamron: Tamron 18-400mm F/3.5-6.3 DI-II VC HLD. Consider how camera manuals are written, and you can see that camera companies have trouble with words.

Imagine if car names included engine size, gearbox, fuel tank capacity, safety features, etc. I might go shopping for a Ford Taurus 3.8 A ABS RE FLR 5P.

What got me thinking about this again was a link someone provided to the Nikon Message service. I downloaded it and found that it was named "S-NMC2_-020101WF-ALLIN-32BIT_"
Later in the day, I received an email telling me there was an update, so I downloaded "S-NMC2_-020300WF-ALLIN-32BIT" I added "Nikon Msg" to the beginning of each name so I would know what it is. Why not call it Nikon Msg_1, Nikon Msg_2, etc?

Thanks. That's my rant for the day.
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Gee, Jerry.

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Jul 13, 2017 08:22:10   #
David Kay Loc: Arlington Heights IL
 
Rant accepted.

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Jul 13, 2017 08:49:15   #
Just Fred Loc: Darwin's Waiting Room
 
You think that's bad? I struggle with the "external" and "internal" names of my vehicles!

For example, I have a 2014 Mercedes-Benz E350 Coupe with 4Matic drive. The external nomenclature for this vehicle is a neatly condensed "E350C4." But try to find parts or service for it, you'll come up with a lot of blanks or incorrect results unless you are also aware that the Mercedes designation for this car is C207! This is how most car manufacturers list their models, by the way.

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Jul 13, 2017 08:49:28   #
jederick Loc: Northern Utah
 
Its nice to vent every now and then...clears the soul!

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Jul 13, 2017 08:53:17   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
Just Fred wrote:
You think that's bad? I struggle with the "external" and "internal" names of my vehicles!

For example, I have a 2014 Mercedes-Benz E350 Coupe with 4Matic drive. The external nomenclature for this vehicle is a neatly condensed "E350C4." But try to find parts or service for it, you'll come up with a lot of blanks or incorrect results unless you are also aware that the Mercedes designation for this car is C207! This is how most car manufacturers list their models, by the way.
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Yes, I know what you mean. Why do they need two - or more - names?

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Jul 13, 2017 09:21:44   #
SS319
 
My Canon EOS Rebel T6i anywhere but in America is called a 750D, but what is more troubling is that a Canon EOS T6 is a completely different body from the Canon EOS Rebel T6i or T6s (the i and s are feature designators). The T6 is related to the T5 while the T6i and T6s are related to the T5i and the T7i

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Jul 13, 2017 09:23:09   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
SS319 wrote:
My Canon EOS Rebel T6i anywhere but in America is called a 750D, but what is more troubling is that a Canon EOS T6 is a completely different body from the Canon EOS Rebel T6i or T6s (the i and s are feature designators). The T6 is related to the T5 while the T6i and T6s are related to the T5i and the T7i


And what's confusing about that?

The Mazda Miata has different names in different places, too, as do other cars.

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Jul 13, 2017 09:53:33   #
JohnSwanda Loc: San Francisco
 
There does seem to be a trend to using number and letter combinations for car model names, and they don't seem to make any more sense than camera number/letter names.

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Jul 13, 2017 09:54:17   #
Jim Bob
 
jerryc41 wrote:
This is a pet peeve of mine - names used for photo gear. I can understand Canon and Nikon using "D" in their DSLR names, but they should have given more thought to what goes along with that "D." Does it really have to be called a Canon EOS 5D Mark IV? Nikon's naming system is a bit cleaner, but what will happen after several updates to the D750? Will it become the D800?

Look at the names given to lenses. If someone asks what you want for your birthday, isn't "Canon EF-S 18-135mm f/3.5-5.6 IS USM lens" just a bit of a mouthful? Of course, all of those characters mean something, but are they essential to the name? Not everyone knows what each of those characters represents. Here's a lens from Tamron: Tamron 18-400mm F/3.5-6.3 DI-II VC HLD. Consider how camera manuals are written, and you can see that camera companies have trouble with words.

Imagine if car names included engine size, gearbox, fuel tank capacity, safety features, etc. I might go shopping for a Ford Taurus 3.8 A ABS RE FLR 5P.

What got me thinking about this again was a link someone provided to the Nikon Message service. I downloaded it and found that it was named "S-NMC2_-020101WF-ALLIN-32BIT_"
Later in the day, I received an email telling me there was an update, so I downloaded "S-NMC2_-020300WF-ALLIN-32BIT" I added "Nikon Msg" to the beginning of each name so I would know what it is. Why not call it Nikon Msg_1, Nikon Msg_2, etc?

Thanks. That's my rant for the day.
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I agree. The nomenclature is insane.

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Jul 13, 2017 09:56:38   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
JohnSwanda wrote:
There does seem to be a trend to using number and letter combinations for car model names, and they don't seem to make any more sense than camera number/letter names.


I remember years ago that foreign cars tended to have number model names, while American cars had words for model names. That might have been because of sales in non-English speaking countries. "Mercedes D190" would be understood anywhere, while Ford Galaxy" might not be. Just guessing.

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Jul 13, 2017 10:32:31   #
bkyser Loc: Fly over country in Indiana
 
I think the next pro model of Nikon should be called "Bob"
Maybe that would stop everyone from using "Uncle Bob" as an insult to non pros at a wedding.

I shoot weddings, and my name is Bob, so I'm very sensitive........LOL

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Jul 13, 2017 10:45:02   #
SS319
 
jerryc41 wrote:
And what's confusing about that?


Oh, that's not my point of confusion - fact is I can't remember what my point of ... what was I saying?

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Jul 13, 2017 10:47:49   #
JPL
 
jerryc41 wrote:
This is a pet peeve of mine - names used for photo gear. I can understand Canon and Nikon using "D" in their DSLR names, but they should have given more thought to what goes along with that "D." Does it really have to be called a Canon EOS 5D Mark IV? Nikon's naming system is a bit cleaner, but what will happen after several updates to the D750? Will it become the D800?

Look at the names given to lenses. If someone asks what you want for your birthday, isn't "Canon EF-S 18-135mm f/3.5-5.6 IS USM lens" just a bit of a mouthful? Of course, all of those characters mean something, but are they essential to the name? Not everyone knows what each of those characters represents. Here's a lens from Tamron: Tamron 18-400mm F/3.5-6.3 DI-II VC HLD. Consider how camera manuals are written, and you can see that camera companies have trouble with words.

Imagine if car names included engine size, gearbox, fuel tank capacity, safety features, etc. I might go shopping for a Ford Taurus 3.8 A ABS RE FLR 5P.

What got me thinking about this again was a link someone provided to the Nikon Message service. I downloaded it and found that it was named "S-NMC2_-020101WF-ALLIN-32BIT_"
Later in the day, I received an email telling me there was an update, so I downloaded "S-NMC2_-020300WF-ALLIN-32BIT" I added "Nikon Msg" to the beginning of each name so I would know what it is. Why not call it Nikon Msg_1, Nikon Msg_2, etc?

Thanks. That's my rant for the day.
This is a pet peeve of mine - names used for photo... (show quote)


The D750 will be MD700 after only 1-2 upgrades

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Jul 13, 2017 10:51:52   #
JPL
 
jerryc41 wrote:
I remember years ago that foreign cars tended to have number model names, while American cars had words for model names. That might have been because of sales in non-English speaking countries. "Mercedes D190" would be understood anywhere, while Ford Galaxy" might not be. Just guessing.


The meaning of brands changes over time. When I was young people went to McDonalds to buy hamburgers. Now it is the #1 brand for 1$ coffee for my wife and free wifi for me when travelling abroad. But the food there is just junk that we avoid when possible.

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