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Jul 13, 2017 14:16:01   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
JPL wrote:
Now it is the #1 brand for 1$ coffee...


Yes, "Senior Coffee."

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Jul 13, 2017 17:15:07   #
speters Loc: Grangeville/Idaho
 
jerryc41 wrote:
This is a pet peeve of mine - names used for photo gear. I can understand Canon and Nikon using "D" in their DSLR names, but they should have given more thought to what goes along with that "D." Does it really have to be called a Canon EOS 5D Mark IV? Nikon's naming system is a bit cleaner, but what will happen after several updates to the D750? Will it become the D800?

Look at the names given to lenses. If someone asks what you want for your birthday, isn't "Canon EF-S 18-135mm f/3.5-5.6 IS USM lens" just a bit of a mouthful? Of course, all of those characters mean something, but are they essential to the name? Not everyone knows what each of those characters represents. Here's a lens from Tamron: Tamron 18-400mm F/3.5-6.3 DI-II VC HLD. Consider how camera manuals are written, and you can see that camera companies have trouble with words.

Imagine if car names included engine size, gearbox, fuel tank capacity, safety features, etc. I might go shopping for a Ford Taurus 3.8 A ABS RE FLR 5P.

What got me thinking about this again was a link someone provided to the Nikon Message service. I downloaded it and found that it was named "S-NMC2_-020101WF-ALLIN-32BIT_"
Later in the day, I received an email telling me there was an update, so I downloaded "S-NMC2_-020300WF-ALLIN-32BIT" I added "Nikon Msg" to the beginning of each name so I would know what it is. Why not call it Nikon Msg_1, Nikon Msg_2, etc?

Thanks. That's my rant for the day.
This is a pet peeve of mine - names used for photo... (show quote)
What's wrong with 5D Mark IV, its the forth edition of the 5D, to me, it makes sense?

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Jul 13, 2017 17:32:11   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
speters wrote:
What's wrong with 5D Mark IV, its the forth edition of the 5D, to me, it makes sense?


"Canon EOS 5D Mark IV" is a bit of a mouthful. Naming it 5D, 6D, 7D, etc., would be simpler. If you say you have a 5D, the immediate question that comes to mind is what Mark is that? I just think that simplicity of naming makes things easier all around.

Look at the Microsoft Surface. They introduced the Surface Pro in 2013, followed by half a dozen new editions. Now, four years later, they've introduced the brand new Surface Pro, so using that name doesn't tell someone what device you're talking about. I know a Surface isn't a camera, but the same naming problem carries over.

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Jul 13, 2017 18:22:54   #
repleo Loc: Boston
 
What really gets me is the labeling on shampoo and shower wash or conditioner bottles. The hardest thing to read on the bottle is 'shampoo' or 'conditioner'. I have no trouble reading that it is 'arctic pine' or 'tropical blossom' but can't tell what it IS without my reading glasses and they steam up in the shower. It takes ages to rinse shower soap out of your hair - at least it does for those of us lucky enough to still have hair.
The other day, I complained to my wife about the flavor of the new tooth paste only to discover that it was actually a tube of cortisone cream for her rash.

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Jul 13, 2017 19:44:29   #
CO
 
jerryc41 wrote:
"Canon EOS 5D Mark IV" is a bit of a mouthful. Naming it 5D, 6D, 7D, etc., would be simpler. If you say you have a 5D, the immediate question that comes to mind is what Mark is that? I just think that simplicity of naming makes things easier all around.

Look at the Microsoft Surface. They introduced the Surface Pro in 2013, followed by half a dozen new editions. Now, four years later, they've introduced the brand new Surface Pro, so using that name doesn't tell someone what device you're talking about. I know a Surface isn't a camera, but the same naming problem carries over.
"Canon EOS 5D Mark IV" is a bit of a mou... (show quote)


The 5D Mark I, II, III, IV nomenclature is not so bad. I don't know what they could do to improve it. Something like 5.1D, 5.2D, 5.3D, 5.4D would be awful.

Camera and lens makers have glossary of terms on their websites.

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Jul 13, 2017 20:08:53   #
martinfisherphoto Loc: Lake Placid Florida
 
Don't get me started, Nikonjerryc41.. This reminds me of Passwords. I Had to sign in on line to my daughters new Dermatologist office. It required a password the was case sensitive. Had to contain 8 figures, at least One numerical, One capital letter, One small letter and One character.... Lucky if I can remember birthdays. Now even my daughter has numbers and letters assigned to her......

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Jul 13, 2017 20:27:17   #
OddJobber Loc: Portland, OR
 
Sony DSC-RX100M3

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Jul 14, 2017 06:10:59   #
turp77 Loc: Connecticut, Plainfield
 
bkyser wrote:
I think the next pro model of Nikon should be called "Bob"
Maybe that would stop everyone from using "Uncle Bob" as an insult to non pros at a wedding.

I shoot weddings, and my name is Bob, so I'm very sensitive........LOL


But then the saying "Bob's your uncle" is a good thing.

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Jul 14, 2017 06:20:20   #
cthahn
 
That really has something to with photography and the art of taking pictures.

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Jul 14, 2017 06:29:46   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
repleo wrote:
What really gets me is the labeling on shampoo and shower wash or conditioner bottles. The hardest thing to read on the bottle is 'shampoo' or 'conditioner'. I have no trouble reading that it is 'arctic pine' or 'tropical blossom' but can't tell what it IS without my reading glasses and they steam up in the shower. It takes ages to rinse shower soap out of your hair - at least it does for those of us lucky enough to still have hair.
The other day, I complained to my wife about the flavor of the new tooth paste only to discover that it was actually a tube of cortisone cream for her rash.
What really gets me is the labeling on shampoo and... (show quote)


Yes, I have noticed that. Strange.

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Jul 14, 2017 06:30:03   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
OddJobber wrote:
Sony DSC-RX100M3


Bingo!

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Jul 14, 2017 06:30:52   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
martinfisherphoto wrote:
Don't get me started, Nikonjerryc41.. This reminds me of Passwords. I Had to sign in on line to my daughters new Dermatologist office. It required a password the was case sensitive. Had to contain 8 figures, at least One numerical, One capital letter, One small letter and One character.... Lucky if I can remember birthdays. Now even my daughter has numbers and letters assigned to her......


Right! And if you have to change your password, you may not be able to use one you've used before. What not?!

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Jul 14, 2017 06:31:28   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
CO wrote:
The 5D Mark I, II, III, IV nomenclature is not so bad. I don't know what they could do to improve it. Something like 5.1D, 5.2D, 5.3D, 5.4D would be awful.

Camera and lens makers have glossary of terms on their websites.


I guess I shouldn't have used the 5D as an example.

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Jul 14, 2017 07:08:24   #
SATS Loc: Belgium
 
Replo, you have found a soul mate here with that shampoo thing, I have been complaining about it for years. And what is the difference between shower gel; cream oil and body milk, are they the same things or different things? Maybe men are just supposed to be kept out of the loop. One thing, at least you will have healthy teeth. Mine keep falling out even though I brush them twice a day but that is probably retaliation because I buy the only brand of toothpaste on the market that doesn't have fluoride.

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Jul 14, 2017 07:26:42   #
ELNikkor
 
Used to be you could buy "Potato Chips", now, it's "Vermont Special Vinegar Sea Salt Twice Fired Home Tasty Kettle Chips"

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